davidc3915 Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Mike Pelfrey has signed with the rival Detroit Tigers. At least we don't have to worry about TR being tepmted to bring him back again.......
scottz Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Great, now the Tigers are going to know all our secrets.
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Good luck to him (except when he plays us).
Mike Frasier Law Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 I can't wait to see him pitch against Park and Sano.
tobi0040 Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 1 year and $8M. By my count, Pelf will have made $25M over four years (3 with us and next year). Scott Boras is the best agent in the world. http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2015/12/detroit_tigers_starting_pitche.html
Winston Smith Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 There is a Santa Claus, best present we could get!
Willihammer Provisional Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Hahahahahaha oh this is too good to be true.
woolywoolhouse Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Perhaps Pelfrey will encourage the Tigers to trade for Nolasco...
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Pelf must have some serious blackmail.
James Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Well, this is one way to reduce the amount of strike outs for Twins batters in 2016.
davidc3915 Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Author Posted December 4, 2015 Just heard its 2 years, $16M. Bwaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Two years? Wow. congrats to him and his agents.
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Wonder if the Tigers are interested in Milone as well. He beat Pelfrey out of ST
davidc3915 Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Author Posted December 4, 2015 Perhaps Pelfrey will encourage the Tigers to trade for Nolasco...We could only hope.......
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 I get the 1 year deal, but 2 years and $16M?!
davidc3915 Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Author Posted December 4, 2015 I get the 1 year deal, but 2 years and $16M?! Yeah a one year flyer, even at 8M, I'd understand. But committing to 2 years? I guess Detroit likes Tommy John Procedure Alumni
davidc3915 Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Author Posted December 4, 2015 Scott Boras is the best agent in the world. Indeed he is. You think he'd represent a Catholic School teacher in Chicago? Maybe help me get a few more bucks? I mean, if he can get 16M for Mike Pelfrey, he's a miracle worker!
DocBauer Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Thank goodness!! I was so tired holding my breath. Thought I was going to pass out!
laloesch Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 I got news for the posters here, Nolasco is ABSOLUTELY tradeable, given the huge salaries of starting pitchers.
tobi0040 Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 I got news for the posters here, Nolasco is ABSOLUTELY tradeable, given the huge salaries of starting pitchers. Don't you think we would have traded him if that was the case?
davidc3915 Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Author Posted December 4, 2015 Don't you think we would have traded him if that was the case?This would (hopefully) be a case where after most of the FA pitchers sign, a team that missed out would be desperate enough to take Nolasco off the Twins' hands......
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Wonder if the Tigers are interested in Milone as well. He beat Pelfrey out of ST yeah, now we have an idea what Milone is worth (and I might add he's been a better pitcher too)
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 I got news for the posters here, Nolasco is ABSOLUTELY tradeable, given the huge salaries of starting pitchers.Sorry, even Pelfrey only got 2/16, coming off 164 IP at 97 ERA+. That doesn't mean Nolasco is tradeable, owed 2/25 coming off 37 IP at 62 ERA+ (and 159 IP of 73 ERA+ the year before). Why would a team assume that risk when guys like Bud Norris are signing for 1 year, $2.5 mil? Happ and Estrada just signed for similar years/AAV as Nolasco is owed, and while neither is a star, both are in a much better position at the moment than Nolasco. Of course, Nolasco could be dealt for a PTBNL if we ate a ton of cash, but that's true of just about any player.
laloesch Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Don't you think we would have traded him if that was the case? Maybe the right deal hasn't come along. The point is though that he is tradeable. Contrary to some of the blogs here stating he is "GOING NOWHERE"
laloesch Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Sorry, even Pelfrey only got 2/16, coming off 164 IP at 97 ERA+. That doesn't mean Nolasco is tradeable, owed 2/25 coming off 37 IP at 62 ERA+ (and 159 IP of 73 ERA+ the year before). Why would a team assume that risk when guys like Bud Norris are signing for 1 year, $2.5 mil? Happ and Estrada just signed for similar years/AAV as Nolasco is owed, and while neither is a star, both are in a much better position at the moment than Nolasco. Of course, Nolasco could be dealt for a PTBNL if we ate a ton of cash, but that's true of just about any player. Because he only has two years left on his deal and he has been a work horse since 2008 (with the exception of 2015). Doesn't mean I like him.
Boom Boom Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 The Tigers' days as an AL powerhouse are over. I've got them finishing last in the division.
tobi0040 Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 I am 100% with Spy. A market for Nolasco may exist if we ate $15M of the remaining $25M. But probably not. The Twins would absolutely, without hesitation move him if someone took his contract and we would not ask for a single thing in return. I have no doubt that we would rather take 2/25 to the open market and see what we can get.
KGB Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 1 year and $8M. By my count, Pelf will have made $25M over four years (3 with us and next year). Scott Boras is the best agent in the world. http://www.mlive.com/tigers/index.ssf/2015/12/detroit_tigers_starting_pitche.htmlAccording to Fangraphs, Pelfrey was a bargin for the Twins, worth $26 million but cost only$15 million. Last year he was worth $15.9 million, so either Boras is terrible or Fangraphs valuation are.
JustinCB Verified Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 When you remove the innings he would have pitched FOR the Twins, and combine that with the innings he will now pitch AGAINST the Twins.... I'd say that really adds up to something special.
twinsnorth49 Old-Timey Member Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 I'm going to miss old horse face.......except the pitching part. Can't wait until we play the Tigers!
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