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I will never understand the people who treat a player's injury like it's a personal failing. This isn't Shaq getting fat all summer and showing up out of shape and unable to play to his contract. It's an injury, and there's no one more unhappy about it than Buxton. (reminder as well, you cannot force a player to have surgery!)

I hope Buck will come through this and be able to play like he did in the first half. When he's healthy, he's a delight to watch on the field and I'll miss him. It's a tremendous shame that he's had so many injuries and has so rarely been able to let his talent shine because of it.

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47 minutes ago, jmlease1 said:

I will never understand the people who treat a player's injury like it's a personal failing. This isn't Shaq getting fat all summer and showing up out of shape and unable to play to his contract. It's an injury, and there's no one more unhappy about it than Buxton. (reminder as well, you cannot force a player to have surgery!)

I hope Buck will come through this and be able to play like he did in the first half. When he's healthy, he's a delight to watch on the field and I'll miss him. It's a tremendous shame that he's had so many injuries and has so rarely been able to let his talent shine because of it.

You can IL him and not play him when he's clearly hurt. 

Posted
1 hour ago, sweetmusicviola16 said:

Its time for the organization to move on. I get it Buxton is not going anywhere unless he decides its time to retire. But Buxton can't be relied upon. Really never could be. You get your 70 games out of him. This is a disruption to the team actually. 

He's averaged 82.5 games/season in his career. Part time player. Not someone to count on.

Posted
2 hours ago, jmlease1 said:

I will never understand the people who treat a player's injury like it's a personal failing. This isn't Shaq getting fat all summer and showing up out of shape and unable to play to his contract. It's an injury, and there's no one more unhappy about it than Buxton. (reminder as well, you cannot force a player to have surgery!)

I hope Buck will come through this and be able to play like he did in the first half. When he's healthy, he's a delight to watch on the field and I'll miss him. It's a tremendous shame that he's had so many injuries and has so rarely been able to let his talent shine because of it.

Doesn't matter how talented he is or how spectacular he is when he's healthy. If he can't stay on the field he's worthless to the team.

Posted
2 hours ago, Hunter4848 said:

I am sick of Buxton holding this franchise hostage 

They've made him the face of the team and have made a lot off him via jersey sales, etc,

Posted
5 hours ago, HarmonK03 said:

I will go with his words that he wants to be here.  

BUT... What if he could play for his hometown team in Atlanta?  What if he played on a team with a REAL CHANCE to win the World Series?  What if it was communicated to him by the Twins and his agent that he has ZERO CHANCE to win a World Series if he remains in Minnesota?  What if he was told that his best way to help the team that has been so patient and loyal to him over the course of his career is to approve a trade and LEAVE?

Posted
2 hours ago, TheLeviathan said:

I'm happy to see this.  Buxton was not himself with this injury and trying to play through it neither helped him nor the team.

Too bad nobody had the brains to have made this move to surgery back in June.

Posted
6 hours ago, Jacksson said:

BUT... What if he could play for his hometown team in Atlanta?  What if he played on a team with a REAL CHANCE to win the World Series?  What if it was communicated to him by the Twins and his agent that he has ZERO CHANCE to win a World Series if he remains in Minnesota?  What if he was told that his best way to help the team that has been so patient and loyal to him over the course of his career is to approve a trade and LEAVE?

He is here for two more years as things stand currently, might as well accept it.

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7 hours ago, Jacksson said:

BUT... What if he could play for his hometown team in Atlanta?  What if he played on a team with a REAL CHANCE to win the World Series?  What if it was communicated to him by the Twins and his agent that he has ZERO CHANCE to win a World Series if he remains in Minnesota?  What if he was told that his best way to help the team that has been so patient and loyal to him over the course of his career is to approve a trade and LEAVE?

I would imagine that Buxton has known all this for several years AND he has chosen to remain a Twin until he retires.

Posted
15 hours ago, PuckettPond said:

Buxton was not the solution Buxton is the problem. Buxton is turning out to be another over paid under performing always injured Joe Mauer when he punked out & moved to 1st base. 

Joe Mauer is a first ballot hall of famer.  you must be really good at whatever you do to have such high requirements for players.

Posted
15 hours ago, PseudoSABR said:

Dude.  There is nothing wrong with strategically holding out that Buxton could contribute in the playoffs, until that possibility became this remote.  It speaks to both the player's and the team's desire to holding out for a possible playoff run, which is what I want as a fan.  

That you make this about Buck's character is super weak sauce.  Criticism of the Twinkies and ownership/front office is totally fair game, on the other hand.

But, given his conditions, do you think he could have contributed much to a mythical playoff appearance anyway? I'm not so sure

 

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14 hours ago, Jacksson said:

BUT... What if he could play for his hometown team in Atlanta?  What if he played on a team with a REAL CHANCE to win the World Series?  What if it was communicated to him by the Twins and his agent that he has ZERO CHANCE to win a World Series if he remains in Minnesota?  What if he was told that his best way to help the team that has been so patient and loyal to him over the course of his career is to approve a trade and LEAVE?

And Atlanta would say, "We're not giving you anything for a part-time player" 

Posted
21 hours ago, thelanges5 said:

Hopefully delaying the surgery won’t impact his availability for ST and opening day. 

The first big issue is his rehab. The first 6-8 weeks (depending on severity of injury) of rehab can be critical, and they probably couldn't have waited much longer before the end of an 8-week rehab period came after the beginning of the lockout.

As far as resuming baseball activities, his availability next year would definitely be better if he had surgery two months earlier, but maybe they're expecting dates to slide, making it less important.

Posted
21 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

Good thing they played him injured. Then waited more days. This FO will never learn. 

Now that we have you, how do the Twins handle him this offseason and next year knowing the surgery is now scheduled for the 18th of September?

 

"Estimated Recovery: Doctors and the Minnesota Twins estimate a standard 3-to-5-month recovery window."

 

Tell us now if you see it differently.  He really should be ready to go next season.  Ramon Laureano had the same surgery in June and there is talk of him being available soon if possible.  Buxton is going to have  five months until when pitchers and catchers start.  He should be ready to go for the season.  How he recovers will be largely up to him although if he doesn't recover well I have a feeling the front office or the Twins medical staff will be blamed (just as it was with Mauer)

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18 minutes ago, ewen21 said:

Now that we have you, how do the Twins handle him this offseason and next year knowing the surgery is now scheduled for the 18th of September?

 

"Estimated Recovery: Doctors and the Minnesota Twins estimate a standard 3-to-5-month recovery window."

 

Tell us now if you see it differently.  He really should be ready to go next season.  Ramon Laureano had the same surgery in June and there is talk of him being available soon if possible.  Buxton is going to have  five months until when pitchers and catchers start.  He should be ready to go for the season.  How he recovers will be largely up to him although if he doesn't recover well I have a feeling the front office or the Twins medical staff will be blamed (just as it was with Mauer)

It seems like I have missed something, but maybe I'm just not looking in the right place.    Do we know what type of hip surgery he is going to have?  A three to five month recovery isn't extreme, but it's more than a quick scope for sure.  

I wish him a successful surgery and a speedy, full recovery. That's best for Buxton and for the Twins. 

Posted
43 minutes ago, Rod Carews Birthday said:

It seems like I have missed something, but maybe I'm just not looking in the right place.    Do we know what type of hip surgery he is going to have?  A three to five month recovery isn't extreme, but it's more than a quick scope for sure.  

I wish him a successful surgery and a speedy, full recovery. That's best for Buxton and for the Twins. 

This isn't hip replacement.  Just AI "Buxton hip surgery" and it returns this:

Recovery Forecast
Doctors have reassured Buxton that the procedure should safeguard the remainder of his career, and the standard recovery timeline indicates he should be fully prepared for the start of spring training in 202
Posted
5 minutes ago, ewen21 said:

This isn't hip replacement.  Just AI "Buxton hip surgery" and it returns this:

Recovery Forecast
Doctors have reassured Buxton that the procedure should safeguard the remainder of his career, and the standard recovery timeline indicates he should be fully prepared for the start of spring training in 202

THATS how we’re researching this?  Surgery of the hip is like saying pain in the torso or cancer of the insides.  Is there actually real info to be had?  

Posted
17 minutes ago, Rod Carews Birthday said:

THATS how we’re researching this?  Surgery of the hip is like saying pain in the torso or cancer of the insides.  Is there actually real info to be had?  

I don't know whether the Twins or Buxton have said anything definitive, but TD published an article just a little while back, authored by someone with medical background, that I feel (maybe unwisely) willing to take as nearly gospel.  Don't be put off by the tongue-in-cheek title, it's not Satire.  Oh, and that article takes a deep-dive into what an impingement is because that is exactly the word used on Buxton's official page at mlb.com - so that at least is not an outsider's guess.

 

 

Posted
15 minutes ago, ashbury said:

I don't know whether the Twins or Buxton have said anything definitive, but TD published an article just a little while back, authored by someone with medical background, that I feel (maybe unwisely) willing to take as nearly gospel.  Don't be put off by the tongue-in-cheek title, it's not Satire.  Oh, and that article takes a deep-dive into what an impingement is because that is exactly the word used on Buxton's official page at mlb.com - so that at least is not an outsider's guess.

 

 

Thank you!  That’s an article I missed.   I too would highly regard that source.  It always makes me nervous when people say “AI says”.  

Posted
3 hours ago, Rod Carews Birthday said:

THATS how we’re researching this?  Surgery of the hip is like saying pain in the torso or cancer of the insides.  Is there actually real info to be had?  

Yes, precisely.  What else do we go with other than what is?  Don't get indignant, I am trying to help you..🤑

 

He OBVIOUSLY isn't getting hip replacement surgery.  It is for a hip impingement.  Have you not read anything?

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/49907101/twins-byron-buxton-hip-surgery-done-season

 

Here is another.  

https://www.mlb.com/news/byron-buxton-season-ending-hip-surgery

 

 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, Rod Carews Birthday said:

Thank you!  That’s an article I missed.   I too would highly regard that source.  It always makes me nervous when people say “AI says”.  

Yes, me as well.  HOWEVER, in this case, we aren't talking about some pressing societal issue.  This is about a baseball player.  

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