Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted May 28 Posted May 28 This is the first DiamondCentric-wide poll, click into the link to vote. Do you care more about the next CBA having a salary cap or a salary floor? I know many of you want to hammer "both!", but ya gotta choose one. Do you care more about MLB mandating a salary floor or a salary cap? - DiamondCentric DIAMONDCENTRIC.NET
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 28 Posted May 28 Floor and it isn't close. Anything that helps the players more.... Rigby, lecroy24fan, USAFChief and 2 others 2 3
Jim H Verified Member Posted May 28 Posted May 28 I don't really care about either. If you care about the players, change the 40 man to a 50 man roster and require that everyone on it is paid at least major league minimum. Also raise the minimum and change the 26 man major league roster to 28, 30 would be better. That would probably benefit marginal major leaguers more than a floor. NotAboutWinning, USAFChief and Mike Sixel 2 1
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted May 28 Posted May 28 Cap. Easily. MLB cannot long survive without fixing the talent imbalance. Mortimerkenny21, Jerr and Rigby 3
sethmoko Verified Member Posted May 28 Posted May 28 Floor. And it should exist without a cap. Players should get X% of league revenues in total as verified by independent accountants and agreed upon standards. If some teams want to spend more than that to put on quality baseball for their fans and therefore earn more money for themselves, let them. Basic capitalism lecroy24fan, Mike Sixel and USAFChief 2 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 28 Posted May 28 1 hour ago, USAFChief said: Cap. Easily. MLB cannot long survive without fixing the talent imbalance. Anything to help the owners!
LakesPibble Verified Member Posted May 28 Posted May 28 One without the other doesn't make sense. Richie the Rally Goat 1
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted May 28 Posted May 28 5 hours ago, Mike Sixel said: Floor and it isn't close. Anything that helps the players more.... 2 hours ago, USAFChief said: Cap. Easily. MLB cannot long survive without fixing the talent imbalance. Both are equally important for the competitive nature of the game. Make the owners accountable for putting a quality team on the field, and don't allow the Dodgers to spend over 2x what the league average payroll is. Jerr, Rigby, Richie the Rally Goat and 4 others 7
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted May 28 Posted May 28 13 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: Both are equally important for the competitive nature of the game. Make the owners accountable for putting a quality team on the field, and don't allow the Dodgers to spend over 2x what the league average payroll is. No problem with that, but the OP question asks me to choose one or the other. I care about the health of MLB. That leaves only one answer. Cap. Jerr 1
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted May 28 Posted May 28 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jim H said: I don't really care about either. If you care about the players, change the 40 man to a 50 man roster and require that everyone on it is paid at least major league minimum. Also raise the minimum and change the 26 man major league roster to 28, 30 would be better. That would probably benefit marginal major leaguers more than a floor. Adding to either roster only serves to further concentrate talent in a couple organizations. We need less concentration, not more. Edited May 28 by USAFChief FlyingFinn, Rigby and Jerr 3
The Great Hambino Verified Member Posted May 28 Posted May 28 I'm not choosing because choosing one and not the other is nonsensical. Neither functions properly and as intended without the other. It's like asking if sauerkraut or swiss cheese is more important in making a reuben. It doesn't matter which you choose - if you don't have both, you don't have a reuben. After seeing the initial proposals put out by both parties ... I still think that there won't be a prolonged work stoppage because the looming media contract renewals are the mechanism of mutually-assured destruction that will prevent one. Neither party can afford to kill their media rights market after all the effort that's been put into getting them all on the same 2028 timeline. But I'm less sure of that than I was before seeing the proposals. This is going to be an awful offseason. Given the uncertainty and the ever-growing pile of mediocre teams that are "contending", it might be an awfully quiet trade deadline as well TheLeviathan and MN Brian 2
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted May 29 Posted May 29 I don’t think it can be either/or. It can’t be one without the other, imo. So my answer is neither or both. But neither will happen mostly because owners are who they are. LakesPibble and Mike Sixel 2
Rod Carews Birthday Verified Member Posted May 29 Posted May 29 Both. Put in complete revenue sharing and and add an NFL-style salary structure. It seems to work very well in football and would be worth a try in MLB. Getting the owners and players on board, however, would be quite a feat. LakesPibble and jaimedude 2
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted May 29 Posted May 29 I can't vote without an option of "Both" like others have said. I absolutely hate that the players are forcing me to be sympathetic to the owners' position by being opposed to a cap with no qualifications. As long as the Dodgers have a 70M advantage on local broadcasting alone with no mechanism to share that money....a cap absolutely has to happen. Also, as long as some owners are content to deposit their revenue sharing checks....a floor absolutely has to happen. The NHL has an absolutely wonderful system that I wish the league would copy. Younger players don't go through 6 years of indentured servitude and get paid much more, much faster. Teams are forced to meet a floor. The cap allows for large contracts. It has a few flaws but it is mostly a great system. It's right there, waiting to be copied! Also, I'm not sure why the MLBPA isn't willing to entertain a cap in exchange for high floors. The whole goal is reaching as close to 60% of the revenue going their way and a floor would be a great way to do that. The cap is then just gravy money you get on top of the floors. Sprinkle in some much-needed cash infusions to treat minor leaguers like humans instead of cannon fodder and it's a deal I can get behind! Instead....luxury taxes and other BS like that. It forces me to start to oppose the players and I hate being in that position.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted May 29 Posted May 29 2 hours ago, TheLeviathan said: Also, I'm not sure why the MLBPA isn't willing to entertain a cap in exchange for high floors. Wasn’t that tried and rejected by owners? Revenue sharing was part of that and the owners said no because they don’t want to open their books
Jim H Verified Member Posted May 29 Posted May 29 2 hours ago, Rod Carews Birthday said: Both. Put in complete revenue sharing and and add an NFL-style salary structure. It seems to work very well in football and would be worth a try in MLB. Getting the owners and players on board, however, would be quite a feat. The NFL has parity. I believe they sacrifice quality to get that. A lot of NFL games are almost unwatchable. Parity isn't the only reason for that, but there is some that going on in baseball. The Twins have no middle of the order bats with Jeffers injured, they play at least 2 utility infielders at short, 2nd, and cf everyday, and their bullpen is still a mess. Yet they are still in position to qualify for the postseason if the can just play a little better. I want to see better baseball. Not just from the Twins. If a salary cap and a salary floor makes for better baseball, I am for it. I don't have any reason to believe that salary cap and floor will do that. USAFChief 1
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted May 29 Author Posted May 29 14 minutes ago, Squirrel said: Wasn’t that tried and rejected by owners? Revenue sharing was part of that and the owners said no because they don’t want to open their books The owners just proposed a salary floor of $171 million. Don't know exactly how that number is calculated, though. MLB Owners Drop a Bombshell with Hard Salary Cap & Floor Counterproposal - MLB - DiamondCentric DIAMONDCENTRIC.NET The fight for the next CBA has officially escalated, putting billionaires and millionaires on a collision course that could cost games.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted May 29 Posted May 29 41 minutes ago, Squirrel said: Wasn’t that tried and rejected by owners? Revenue sharing was part of that and the owners said no because they don’t want to open their books It at least appears to be on the table at this point. And their number, while low, wasn't preposterously low. To me, the first olive branch in this exchange happened on behalf of the billionaires. Good negotiations should be working around that reasonable parameter: they offered a floor for the first time ever, maybe the players agree to a cap after some hard negotiations that pulls both numbers up to a level that they find acceptable. If players stay firmly on "no cap ever" - I simply can't support their perspective.
Permanent Twins Fan Verified Member Posted May 29 Posted May 29 I like the idea of implementing a salary floor, but there is no way that 175 million will get passed. Small market teams like the Twins will not be willing to raise their payroll by that much.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted May 29 Author Posted May 29 2 minutes ago, Permanent Twins Fan said: I like the idea of implementing a salary floor, but there is no way that 175 million will get passed. Small market teams like the Twins will not be willing to raise their payroll by that much. The owners made that offer, so it’s very real in the sense that teams agreed to it. Permanent Twins Fan, TheLeviathan and Richie the Rally Goat 3
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted May 30 Posted May 30 3 hours ago, Permanent Twins Fan said: I like the idea of implementing a salary floor, but there is no way that 175 million will get passed. Small market teams like the Twins will not be willing to raise their payroll by that much. I'd assume increases in revenue sharing. Richie the Rally Goat and The Great Hambino 2
Irishman Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Players and agents are greedy and don’t want any kind of hard salary cap. Owners are greedy, too.
laloesch Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 On 5/28/2026 at 3:13 PM, USAFChief said: Cap. Easily. MLB cannot long survive without fixing the talent imbalance. This. The pro players and the pro union folks are like the players, the players, the players. You can’t set a floor without setting a cap otherwise nothing is accomplished except bankrupting teams. I know a lot of people will scoff at that notion but the Dodgers had a 400 million dollar payroll last season and routinely gobble up most of the high profile free agents, international signings, and dominate the trade deadlines because they are willing to spend as much as it takes to the extreme. That’s just bad for baseball parity in general. I’m actually very surprised at the offer from MLB to the union which has a very good floor. That will offer a lot more to the players that aren’t stars than just a hard cap with low spending floor which only really benefits the high profile stars. Prolonged Strike incoming I think. MLB is very serious about this.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted May 30 Author Posted May 30 1 hour ago, laloesch said: You can’t set a floor without setting a cap otherwise nothing is accomplished except bankrupting teams. Teams can just, you know, *not spend* to avoid said bankruptcy.
MN Brian Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 @Brock Beauchamp - Does this poll reset daily? Went back in to see where it was at and it wanted me to vote again. I think a use case like this would call for a non-resetting poll ...
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted May 30 Author Posted May 30 26 minutes ago, MN Brian said: @Brock Beauchamp - Does this poll reset daily? Went back in to see where it was at and it wanted me to vote again. I think a use case like this would call for a non-resetting poll ... It does reset daily. All our polls reset daily, it's something I'm debating changing, but I'm not sure. I like polls that reset, but an option to not reset might be a good thing. MN Brian 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 4 hours ago, Irishman said: Players and agents are greedy and don’t want any kind of hard salary cap. Owners are greedy, too. Ya, workers who generate massive profits are greedy ...
MN Brian Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 52 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said: It does reset daily. All our polls reset daily, it's something I'm debating changing, but I'm not sure. I like polls that reset, but an option to not reset might be a good thing. You need both, I think. Opinion polls over time are quite interesting in judging shifts of opinion, but others (like this) should be point in time based. A related comment, it would be very interesting to see the opinion polls over time displayed that way. For example, what is the daily opinion of Shelton from the start of the season to now on a day-to-day basis? If it's possible to view that now, I'm now sure how. Brock Beauchamp 1
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted May 31 Posted May 31 On 5/29/2026 at 8:50 PM, USAFChief said: I'd assume increases in revenue sharing. Yup, all local broadcast rights are shared in the MLB proposal
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted May 31 Posted May 31 On 5/28/2026 at 2:13 PM, USAFChief said: Cap. Easily. MLB cannot long survive without fixing the talent imbalance. A cap decreases the spend at the top, but if no one forces the bottom of the league to spend money on talent, the talent won’t magically balance itself. The Dodgers would just get more creative on contract structure Squirrel 1
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