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I'm assuming the Urias deal means the Astros have moved on. I'm not opposed to trading Correa, but I don't see it happening. He certainly has not played up to his contract, but he still has value, and I think determining what that value is and who pays how much makes a deal difficult.

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Correa still owns a home in the Houston area and they spend a lot of time there during the winter. If moving, it would be better for the kids to relocate now then later.

Also the Pollads are only going to pick up his salary for as long as they own the team. It might be better for the new owners to have clean check book to shop for free agents next winter.

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1 hour ago, NYCTK said:

With respect to player relations, I'm more concerned about Griffin Jax and every player's relationship with the skipper. 

Not only did they refuse to give him a tryout for the rotation, but then yesterday's bullpen management clearly had Jax very annoyed, to say the least. 

Jax almost has to be traded, a disgruntled employee isn't one you wanna keep around if you're already determined to make changes. 

Or, just a suggestion, fire Rocco instead of trading all the players.

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1 minute ago, DJL44 said:

Or, just a suggestion, fire Rocco instead of trading all the players.

You have to do both. Not ALL the players obviously, but this roster just isn't good enough and pretending that a manager swap would fix all ails is just sticking your head in the ground. 

This team started the year with DaShawn Keirsey AND Mickey Gasper on it's opening day roster, and that was with pretty limited injuries out of Spring Training. Royce Lewis, was there anyone else on the IL out of Spring Training? Brooks Lee maybe? (who wasn't ready either and should have been getting seasoning in AAA) 

 

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13 hours ago, glunn said:

I believe that Correa is fading fast and this would be a good move even if the Twins have to eat some of his salary.  I also don't see this as discouraging prospective free agents, because Correa would be approving the reunion with his old team.  Arguably the Twins would be doing him a favor by allowing him an opportunity to get another ring.

If true, and the Twins don't jump all over this chance to unload 36 mill a year of salary, then they are nuts. I don't even care if they get anything in return. Just unloading his salary is enough for me.

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1 hour ago, shimrod said:

I had no issue with the Correa signing at the time. The mismanagement of the broadcast situation has put the team on a financial trajectory that makes a $35M/yr player a liability. Even if Correa was playing to his historical numbers the Twins wouldn't be contenders. The team needs to rebuild.

 

It is really hard for the Twins to manage someone else’s broadcast business. 

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45 minutes ago, LewFordLives said:

I'm assuming the Urias deal means the Astros have moved on. I'm not opposed to trading Correa, but I don't see it happening. He certainly has not played up to his contract, but he still has value, and I think determining what that value is and who pays how much makes a deal difficult.

Urias could be their utility player 

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20 minutes ago, saviking said:

If true, and the Twins don't jump all over this chance to unload 36 mill a year of salary, then they are nuts. I don't even care if they get anything in return. Just unloading his salary is enough for me.

Also, trading these players away for minor league prospects does nothing for next years team without unloading 36 mill a year to able to sign veterans to next years club. 

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2 hours ago, dxpavelka said:

The only thing Twins fans hate more than the team not spending money is the team spending money…

…on a player who’s performance hasn’t lived up to his contract. Twins took a chance on Correa being a big difference-maker. Unfortunately, he hasn’t been.

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17 minutes ago, old nurse said:

It is really hard for the Twins to manage someone else’s broadcast business. 

Nonsense. They should have included contract terms that protected them in case of a fee dispute. There is a long history of cable providers blacking out channels during negotiations. Selling broadcast rights with no contingency was financial malpractice.

 

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Regardless of what happens with Correa, a change in ownership will reset the expectations baseline. Until the team gets sold, every single decision made from trades and hires down to which type of soda is kept in the clubhouse will have a financial tinge to it.

The ownership situation really needs to be resolved so a direction can be decided on.

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8 minutes ago, Fire Dan Gladden said:

 Every single decision made from trades and hires down to which type of soda is kept in the clubhouse will have a financial tinge to it.

 

The Paddack Pop has already been yanked. 

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8 minutes ago, silverslugger said:

This would definitely be addition by subtraction as far as I'm concerned.  I've never been a big fan of what Correa has brought to this team in relation to the dollars it has taken to procure his services.

And if this happened, at least Twins fans would look a little less ridiculous when booing Altuve. 

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1 hour ago, NYCTK said:

You have to do both. Not ALL the players obviously, but this roster just isn't good enough and pretending that a manager swap would fix all ails is just sticking your head in the ground. 

This team started the year with DaShawn Keirsey AND Mickey Gasper on it's opening day roster, and that was with pretty limited injuries out of Spring Training. Royce Lewis, was there anyone else on the IL out of Spring Training? Brooks Lee maybe? (who wasn't ready either and should have been getting seasoning in AAA) 

 

Rocco has already been extended for next year, unfortunately.  He's not going anywhere until there's new ownership in place.  Even then, they may give him a year, or some portion of the first year as a stabilizing clubhouse effect.  Not that I necessarily think it'd be all that stabilizing.

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3 hours ago, NYCTK said:

With respect to player relations, I'm more concerned about Griffin Jax and every player's relationship with the skipper. 

Not only did they refuse to give him a tryout for the rotation, but then yesterday's bullpen management clearly had Jax very annoyed, to say the least. 

Jax almost has to be traded, a disgruntled employee isn't one you wanna keep around if you're already determined to make changes. 

I’d much prefer they trade Baldelli.

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If I'm a prospective buyer of the club not having to pay an aging shortstop 30 million would be a lot more attractive. Correa is what he is. We would miss his solid error free, plus plus arm, his veteran presence, but I will not miss his lack of clutch hitting and his very predictable GIDPs. I don't hate hm, but let's give some of kids a chance.

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I still disagree with the Duran trade…had him through 27 at a reasonable price. The pitching staff is solid when Lopez returns next season and gives the team a chance to compete now.

Zero issue trading Correa if you get a couple of guys that could be everyday players next season. Our issues lie with the positional players. Need a ton of work with the lineup. I see the need for two corner OF’s, 1st, 2nd, SS if you trade Correa, that’s what makes the Duran trade so headscrathing, it addresses none of the issues that this team has. If you weren’t keeping him you have to get guys that can help almost immediately. The offense and defense is that bad.

And as far as being unfair to Correa and future FA’s… you have to perform. Was alright with the signing when it happened, but the return has been nowhere near what he’s getting paid and he can nix any trade.

 

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50 minutes ago, mluebker said:

…on a player who’s performance hasn’t lived up to his contract. Twins took a chance on Correa being a big difference-maker. Unfortunately, he hasn’t been.

He was very good in 2022…not so good in 2023. Except, in 2023 he was the best player for the Twins in the postseason…one that included the club’s first postseason series win in about 100 years. Last year he was brilliant, but hurt.

This year he looks like he MIGHT be fading.

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48 minutes ago, Senior Softball Guy said:

If I'm a prospective buyer of the club not having to pay an aging shortstop 30 million would be a lot more attractive. Correa is what he is. We would miss his solid error free, plus plus arm, his veteran presence, but I will not miss his lack of clutch hitting and his very predictable GIDPs. I don't hate hm, but let's give some of kids a chance.

I can agree, but he is also part of your marketable roster. It is easier to sell tickets to see guys like him and Buxton than it is to sell them to watch a bunch of guys that nobody has heard about.

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The Twins are seldom in the hunt for top tier free agents anyway.  And if it hinders them from signing a Correa or a Donaldson, that doesn't seem like a bad thing.

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4 minutes ago, Nshore said:

The Twins are seldom in the hunt for top tier free agents anyway.  And if it hinders them from signing a Correa or a Donaldson, that doesn't seem like a bad thing.

A Correa who couldn't pass a physical with two separate teams. 

Bad signing from Day 1.

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5 hours ago, gman said:

I think the Pollads would be doing the "new" owners a big favor by trading Correa and taking the heat for it. The new owners could then say they weren't the ones who traded him. But if the team is going to reduce the payroll,

Correa has to be traded and the best place to get him to accept is probably Houston. The Dodgers and Dodger fans would never take him. The Yankees might and maybe the Mets.

Instead of eating money the Twins might throw in Larnach to give the Astro's the lefthanded outfielder they want. I wonder what that trade would look like.

Been thinking this could be one of the deals in the background with a buyer is to shed contracts so they aren't the bad guys.  

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2 hours ago, jkcarew said:

He was very good in 2022…not so good in 2023. Except, in 2023 he was the best player for the Twins in the postseason…one that included the club’s first postseason series win in about 100 years. Last year he was brilliant, but hurt.

He’s managed to do well enough for himself a couple of times, but whatever difference that’s made, it hasn’t been enough to keep the team even in the playoffs, but for a single year. The whole idea of paying one guy a superstar salary, then filling so many other slots with cheap free agents, retreads, and reclamation projects never has set well with me. 

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1 hour ago, LewFordLives said:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/07/astros-rumors-carlos-correa-trade-twins-nolan-arenado-cardinals.html

To summarize, Nightengale reported that the Astros wanted the Twins to contribute $50 million plus an outfielder....

Ummmm......No.

I doubt the Pohlads would chip in 50 cents, much less 50 mil.

As much as I'd like the Twins to get out from the $30mil we are paying Correa to be a replacement level player, taking this deal makes zero sense.  

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7 minutes ago, mluebker said:

He’s managed to do well enough for himself a couple of times, but whatever difference that’s made, it hasn’t been enough to keep the team even in the playoffs, but for a single year. The whole idea of paying one guy a superstar salary, then filling so many other slots with cheap free agents, retreads, and reclamation projects never has set well with me. 

That’s on the FO and ownership, not Correa. It’s not like there’s a salary cap the organization is butted up against…except their self-imposed one.

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