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3 hours ago, shimrod said:

Nonsense. They should have included contract terms that protected them in case of a fee dispute. There is a long history of cable providers blacking out channels during negotiations. Selling broadcast rights with no contingency was financial malpractice.

 

Learn about the bankruptcy process and then try again to tell people what they should or should not have done

Posted
17 hours ago, glunn said:

I believe that Correa is fading fast and this would be a good move even if the Twins have to eat some of his salary.  I also don't see this as discouraging prospective free agents, because Correa would be approving the reunion with his old team.  Arguably the Twins would be doing him a favor by allowing him an opportunity to get another ring.

“fading fast” …….  .300 over last 274 AB’s - defense is similar to last 2-3 years…………..that said, I have no issue moving him to free up $20 plus million, assuming they’ll still have to pay $10M/yr.

Trading him, generally, will not alienate the fans IF they’ll still $$ freed up get spent on new talent or extending current “key” talent.

Worrying about how other future “free agents”  see the organization due to trading long-term FA’s is silly………new ownership in the way …… clean slate with  MLBPA viewpoint. CC has a NO trade clause, so if he gets traded it’s approved by him - IMO, that buys credibility with future FA’s

Posted
4 hours ago, DJL44 said:

Or, just a suggestion, fire Rocco instead of trading all the players.

That’s the solution for Matt Wallner?

Solution for CC having less than 10 HR?

Solution for FO signing Ty France as the solution at 1B?

Solution for Ober’s performance and injuries?

Solution for Lopez missing half the year, or more, with 2 different IL stints?

The Yankees can’t win without Boone managing - Mets can’t win w/o their manager - Phillies can’t win……Dodgers can’t win…..etc.

Ridiculous - the players perform at mediocre levels and it has nothing to do with motivation nor direction from the Manager. Fly ball to right and Castro looks like an 11 year old approaching the can of corn …… Lee ends up dropping it ….. leads to big inning & loss. Players have to make plays AND be available.

Posted
28 minutes ago, old nurse said:

Learn about the bankruptcy process and then try again to tell people what they should or should not have done

Are you purposefully being obtuse? Twins needed contract protection to ensure reversion of the broadcast rights if the purchaser was unable to monetize them. 

Failure to protect their rights was an unforced error. 

Posted
2 hours ago, AKTwinsFan said:

Not sure why the pohlands didn't think of having a roof or some sort of retractable roof when building the stadium. Now Arod and Lore are planning on building a new Target (or some sponsor) center. Will that push the team into building a new field?

????????

Target Field is highly thought of throughout MLB……..there’s no connection with the two venues other than sponsor name.

Posted
8 minutes ago, JD-TWINS said:

Ridiculous - the players perform at mediocre levels and it has nothing to do with motivation nor direction from the Manager.

If he has no impact on performance why are we paying him? 

Posted
5 hours ago, Trov said:

I think this is reading too much into the situation.  CC has full no trade, so only way he moves is if he says yes.  There is a big difference between the Twins shopping CC and asking him to waive deal for anyone, than having a team reach out and say hey could we get him, and they go to CC and say Houston wants you back, is that something you want? One could argue it is putting the player first.  It is different than if he signed long term deal and team says yeah you out without the player having any say in it. 

He'd go back to Houston.  He clearly did not say no when asked about it.

Posted

Apparently, the Twins and Stros are still talking about Correa, but both sides are far apart.  I guess the Astros asked for 50 million and an outfield prospect and the Twins flat out said "NO", which I kinda understand.  But I guess they are still talking if MLBtraderumors is correct.

If they could get it down to say 30 mil, and include a very low ranked outfield prospect, i'd do this in a heartbeat.

 

Posted
19 hours ago, Cody Christie said:

Correa has four years remaining after this season on his six-year, $200 million contract, with vesting options that could make the deal longer and even more expensive.


I believe CC only has 3 years left after this season, not 4....thank goodness.
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This article along tells me the Minnesota Twins are one messed up organization...border line horrid. 

You sign Carlos Correa to a $200M+ deal, only to desperately try to dump him a few years later,  while eating up to  $10M per year in dead money , that isn’t strategy. It’s a complete failure.

 

Posted
20 hours ago, Cody Christie said:

Minnesota already has trouble luring top names to the Twin Cities. Geography, market size, and weather are often cited as reasons players look elsewhere. Stability and reputation matter when a player considers long-term deals. If the Twins develop a reputation as a revolving door for high-priced veterans, it will only compound the issue.

20 hours ago, Cody Christie said:

There is also the fan perspective to consider. Correa is one of the most recognizable players on the roster and has consistently praised the organization. Moving him while he is still a capable contributor could alienate a portion of the fanbase already frustrated with the team’s up-and-down results and budget-conscious decisions.

Methinks the Twins have earned this reputation now... you got your material for your next article!

Posted
2 hours ago, jkcarew said:
3 hours ago, mluebker said:

The whole idea of paying one guy a superstar salary, then filling so many other slots with cheap free agents, retreads, and reclamation projects never has set well with me. 

That’s on the FO and ownership, not Correa. It’s not like there’s a salary cap the organization is butted up against…except their self-imposed one.

Absolutely on the front office and ownership. Correa did the best he could, when he could, but he was never worth to the team what they were paying him. So I’m glad the Twins and Astros were able to come to terms.

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Posted
2 hours ago, JD-TWINS said:

“fading fast” …….  .300 over last 274 AB’s - defense is similar to last 2-3 years…………..that said, I have no issue moving him to free up $20 plus million, assuming they’ll still have to pay $10M/yr.

Trading him, generally, will not alienate the fans IF they’ll still $$ freed up get spent on new talent or extending current “key” talent.

Worrying about how other future “free agents”  see the organization due to trading long-term FA’s is silly………new ownership in the way …… clean slate with  MLBPA viewpoint. CC has a NO trade clause, so if he gets traded it’s approved by him - IMO, that buys credibility with future FA’s

According to CBS Sports --

"Now 30, Correa is having the worst season of his career, slashing .267/.319/.386 with seven home runs in 93 games. Between that and declining defense, he is a 0.1 WAR player this year. Correa is owed $92 million from 2026-28 with four club options covering 2029-32. It is unclear whether the Twins ate any money to facilitate the trade."

 

Posted
14 hours ago, NYCTK said:

With respect to player relations, I'm more concerned about Griffin Jax and every player's relationship with the skipper. 

Not only did they refuse to give him a tryout for the rotation, but then yesterday's bullpen management clearly had Jax very annoyed, to say the least. 

Jax almost has to be traded, a disgruntled employee isn't one you wanna keep around if you're already determined to make changes. 

This aged well.

Posted
15 hours ago, shimrod said:

I had no issue with the Correa signing at the time. The mismanagement of the broadcast situation has put the team on a financial trajectory that makes a $35M/yr player a liability. Even if Correa was playing to his historical numbers the Twins wouldn't be contenders. The team needs to rebuild.

 

The TV situation comes down to one thing:  How much are fans willing to pay for the team to compete as far as television money goes?  The answer is probably "not nearly as much as it would take."
 

Lockout in 2027 which results in revenue sharing and a salary cap (and floor) is the best possible scenario

Posted
16 hours ago, shimrod said:

Are you purposefully being obtuse? Twins needed contract protection to ensure reversion of the broadcast rights if the purchaser was unable to monetize them. 

Failure to protect their rights was an unforced error. 

Your knowledge of what happened with the Twins television contract is so lacking that II gave you an idea where to start to learn something. 

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