Could Royce Lewis Benefit From a Minor League Reset?

[NYCTK]

3 minutes ago, jkcarew said:

Get with the times. The player decides what position and what team/level. Lest they become upset and run away.

Wouldn't want Royce to feel uncomfortable out there. He might play poorly...

[Guest]

I seldom do this, but Royce and his coaches would benefit by first reading this TD article:  https://twinsdaily.com/news-rumors/minnesota-twins/whats-behind-twins-slugger-royce-lewiss-struggles-at-the-plate-r18395/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-1517174

If they haven't read it, then yes, send Royce down to St. Paul where hopefully that staff read the article....

[Parfigliano]

Shouldn't the question be " Can Royce Lewis Benefit From A Minor League Reset"

[Parfigliano]

1 hour ago, Western SD Fan said:

I've been pleading for this for two weeks now in every thread involving Royce that he either should be put back on the IL or optioned down.  My hope is that the hitting coaches have developed a plan for him to work on if he does finally get sent out.  Plouffe finally said on last night's broadcast what we have all been seeing, that it doesn't look like Royce's is using his legs as part of his swing.  I'm also of the opinion that they need to do something before his attitude breaks.  Plouffe also suggested last night that every hitter has their breaking point and I'd rather something get done with Royce before he is broken irreparably.  I do think he would be a good candidate for a reset with the expectation given to him that he will be back up to the ML club when he is fully ready and can contribute.  My hope is that the FO is not factoring in ticket sales or something like that as part of the reason to not do something with Royce.  They also do face a small roster conundrum as if the DFA Bride, he will likely get picked up by another organization and not pass waivers

Who is buying tickets to see a liability in the field and at the plate play?

[Parfigliano]

1 hour ago, Western SD Fan said:

I've been pleading for this for two weeks now in every thread involving Royce that he either should be put back on the IL or optioned down.  My hope is that the hitting coaches have developed a plan for him to work on if he does finally get sent out.  Plouffe finally said on last night's broadcast what we have all been seeing, that it doesn't look like Royce's is using his legs as part of his swing.  I'm also of the opinion that they need to do something before his attitude breaks.  Plouffe also suggested last night that every hitter has their breaking point and I'd rather something get done with Royce before he is broken irreparably.  I do think he would be a good candidate for a reset with the expectation given to him that he will be back up to the ML club when he is fully ready and can contribute.  My hope is that the FO is not factoring in ticket sales or something like that as part of the reason to not do something with Royce.  They also do face a small roster conundrum as if the DFA Bride, he will likely get picked up by another organization and not pass waivers

Who is buying tickets to see a liability in the field and at the plate play?

[Patzky]

3 hours ago, USAFChief said:

This article seems to imply Lewis should decide whether he should be in St Paul or Minnesota. 

Nonconcur.

 

..or what position he should or shouldn't play..

[Western SD Fan]

At least for today, we will not know whether this exercise in thought will bear out any fruit as the Twins have made a roster move.  Wallner has been activated and Keirsey Jr has been sent back to St. Paul.

Twins' Matt Wallner: Officially activated off IL - CBSSports.com

[Patzky]

9 minutes ago, Western SD Fan said:

At least for today, we will not know whether this exercise in thought will bear out any fruit as the Twins have made a roster move.  Wallner has been activated and Keirsey Jr has been sent back to St. Paul.

Twins' Matt Wallner: Officially activated off IL - CBSSports.com

Seems a logical move, actually.

[Craig Arko]

12 minutes ago, Western SD Fan said:

At least for today, we will not know whether this exercise in thought will bear out any fruit as the Twins have made a roster move.  Wallner has been activated and Keirsey Jr has been sent back to St. Paul.

Twins' Matt Wallner: Officially activated off IL - CBSSports.com

And if Royce is optioned, now the most likely (and maybe most deserving) call up would be Gasper.

[Western SD Fan]

6 minutes ago, Craig Arko said:

And if Royce is optioned, now the most likely (and maybe most deserving) call up would be Gasper.

You could make an argument for Emmy Rodriguez if you want a more speedster-type player to use as a pinch runner.

[Schmoeman5]

2 hours ago, jkcarew said:

Get with the times. The player decides what position and what team/level. Lest they become upset and run away.

There is some truth to that. But both sides need to agree. How is playing him on a bad wheel while struggling at the plate as he has been help the Twins? Unless the Twins really believe that whoever they call up will be worse than he has. 

[IndianaTwin]

4 hours ago, Patzky said:

Removing him for a faster runner after we got the lead in the 10th says a lot.

Mainly it says that having a faster runner is better than having a slower runner and that Bader in left and Castro at third is a better defensive alignment for the last half-inning than Castro in left and Lewis at third. They probably would have made the same substitution if Lewis was hitting .400. 

[T.O.]

Martin and Lewis should be together again, in St. Paul.

I'm not sure Lewis has the temperament to work through his problems but the Twins will be a better team without him until he gets in together. 

[Doctor Gast]

I just wrote a text that had no profanity, it included the same concern as other members & writer had. It just had my opinion & was not allowed. Are we becoming a communist state here?

[Parfigliano]

3 minutes ago, Doctor Gast said:

I just wrote a text that had no profanity, it included the same concern as other members & writer had. It just had my opinion & was not allowed. Are we becoming a communist state here?

Outside  North Korea the communists are capitalists now.  

[Mike Sixel]

31 minutes ago, Doctor Gast said:

I just wrote a text that had no profanity, it included the same concern as other members & writer had. It just had my opinion & was not allowed. Are we becoming a communist state here?

What is that last sentence, exactly? Because you have no idea what communism means, clearly. 

[gil4]

6 hours ago, Linus said:

I thought the same thing. Not only did Jeffers run a long way Royce wasnt even in the TV picture when Jeffers caught it. 

He was in the picture and had veered off, probably because Jeffers called it.  Also, the angle is a bit deceptive.  The back edge of the coaching box is in line with the base, and Jeffers didn't reach the from edge. (The box is 20 feet wide.)  

I would like to see Royce spend a bit of time in AAA, but not because of this play. 
 

[Doctor Gast]

1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said:

What is that last sentence, exactly? Because you have no idea what communism means, clearly. 

I now exactly what communism is & what a communist state (dictatorship that quells statements they don't like) is. Yet what I stated shouldn't have any bearing against what TD should stand for

[Linus]

26 minutes ago, gil4 said:

He was in the picture and had veered off, probably because Jeffers called it.  Also, the angle is a bit deceptive.  The back edge of the coaching box is in line with the base, and Jeffers didn't reach the from edge. (The box is 20 feet wide.)  

I would like to see Royce spend a bit of time in AAA, but not because of this play. 
 

Nowhere in my posts did I suggest Royce should be demoted generally or for this play. The catcher ran considerably farther than the third baseman. Royce is playing the game in a limited way. 

[Major League Ready]

3 hours ago, Craig Arko said:

And if Royce is optioned, now the most likely (and maybe most deserving) call up would be Gasper.

I know Gasper did not do much within the SSS we saw him at the big league level but damn, the man has been putting up phenomenal numbers.  Gasper getting another shot would be another benefit of sending Lewis down.

[yeahyabetcha]

4 hours ago, Western SD Fan said:

You could make an argument for Emmy Rodriguez if you want a more speedster-type player to use as a pinch runner.

Rodriguez is rated as a top prospect.  They likely will want him playing every day in St Paul, rather than being a bench player, for now anyways.

[yeahyabetcha]

3 hours ago, Parfigliano said:

Outside  North Korea the communists are capitalists now.  

And the capitalists are moving towards socialism….weird how it works.

[Fire Dan Gladden]

Four "Royce Lewis is struggling" articles since Thursday...

Variety is the spice of life!

[DocBauer]

I don't know because I don't know what the coaches are seeing on the cages, or what they're looking for in his AB. But a couple days ago I believe he went 0-4 but every out was over 95mph exit velocity and I believe two of them were over 100. Zero results, but if he keeps hitting the ball that hard  good results should come. Hopefully soon.

Now, if he's not feeling well physically, I could see a 7 day rest with Buxton and Wallner back.

[Cody Schoenmann]

4 hours ago, Doctor Gast said:

I now exactly what communism is & what a communist state (dictatorship that quells statements they don't like) is. Yet what I stated shouldn't have any bearing against what TD should stand for

Doctor Gast, this is not the time to debate dialectical materialism! Royce Lewis has a 14 wRC+!

[S Bart]

The Twins rushed him back to the team. YES!!!!!!!!!!! He needs a reset. 3B .....Jonah Bride is hitting 250 and Lewis is 130. It is a no brainer. 

[Doctor Gast]

8 hours ago, Cody Schoenmann said:

Doctor Gast, this is not the time to debate dialectical materialism! Royce Lewis has a 14 wRC+!

I had no desire to do so.  I just responded to a quote.

You have no idea what  I wrote that was banned. For your information, I supported him to be sent down!

[Bodie]

19 hours ago, karcherd said:

Wasn't he positioned more where the shortstop normally would be.  It was a left handed hitter up and Correa was playing up the middle.  Foul popups are tough to get to when you play the modified shift.  I am not trying to defend Lewis but I am not sure this is an instance where he was given the best chance to succeed.  It is interesting he looked like he was moving better and was coming around on the last road trip but then on the homestand he started looking lost again.  I still wonder if the team is telling him not to go all out or is it him.  Remember last year in his first rehab game, he stole second and the team was not happy about it.  It does not feel like it is in his nature to not go all out.  So either let him play or put him back on the IL if he is not healthy.

MLB play is at a level that no one will be successful playing at less than max effort.  Any retired player will tell you exactly that.  Current ones are too scared of being labeled trouble maker to tell the truth!

90% effort to save your "health points" not only leaves you with almost no production, but in the end a beat up player hated by his teams fan base because he dogs it. 

It ain't a video game -,it is elite athletes going all out in a dog eat dog world.  Play at less than max effort and some kid will be along shortly to take your job.  And on a competently run team it will be very soon!

[karcherd]

3 minutes ago, Bodie said:

MLB play is at a level that no one will be successful playing at less than max effort.  Any retired player will tell you exactly that.  Current ones are too scared of being labeled trouble maker to tell the truth!

90% effort to save your "health points" not only leaves you with almost no production, but in the end a beat up player hated by his teams fan base because he dogs it. 

It ain't a video game -,it is elite athletes going all out in a dog eat dog world.  Play at less than max effort and some kid will be along shortly to take your job.  And on a competently run team it will be very soon!

I don't disagree, but read my post, is the team telling him to play conservatively, that is what no one knows.  Everyone is blaming Lewis and there are many reasons to do that, but we don't know what is going behind the scenes.  This team is very conservative in treating injuries and I wonder what they are telling Lewis.

[Doctor Wu]

I'm just an ordinary Twins fans with no special powers of analysis or helpful suggestions. But clearly, Royce Lewis is struggling and needs a break, or rehab, or a reset, or something, and it should be done ASAP. As many others have already said, he is not doing much of anything to help the Twins lately. He is a player that has shown that he CAN be special and very productive, but we aren't seeing signs of those skills this season.