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Twins (Lopez) vs Cardinals (Gray): 3/27/25, 3:15pm

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Happy opening day everyone

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On this day, March 27th 2025, the Chicago White Sox have been eliminated from postseason contention 

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Brats and Shiner Bock ready to go.

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4 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

 

Just like I feared and people told me I was crazy for suggesting...Harrison Bader is not here to be a 4th OF, short side platoon, Buxton insurance policy player. Harrison Bader is an everyday player for your 2025 Minnesota Twins. 

Ok, I got my rant out of the way and will now enjoy the rest of my opening day! I hope everyone has a wonderful day and the Twins win!

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9 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

Just like I feared and people told me I was crazy for suggesting...Harrison Bader is not here to be a 4th OF, short side platoon, Buxton insurance policy player. Harrison Bader is an everyday player for your 2025 Minnesota Twins. 

Ok, I got my rant out of the way and will now enjoy the rest of my opening day! I hope everyone has a wonderful day and the Twins win!

I mean, maybe? I always suspected Bader would play quite a bit but not to the "everyday player" level. Like 350-400 PA territory.

Would he be in the lineup if both/either Lewis and Lee were healthy? Dunno, but I suspect not.

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13 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

Just like I feared and people told me I was crazy for suggesting...Harrison Bader is not here to be a 4th OF, short side platoon, Buxton insurance policy player. Harrison Bader is an everyday player for your 2025 Minnesota Twins. 

Ok, I got my rant out of the way and will now enjoy the rest of my opening day! I hope everyone has a wonderful day and the Twins win!

I mean, I was called a curmudgeon for saying France was a starter..... So I feel ya

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43 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

Just like I feared and people told me I was crazy for suggesting...Harrison Bader is not here to be a 4th OF, short side platoon, Buxton insurance policy player. Harrison Bader is an everyday player for your 2025 Minnesota Twins. 

Ok, I got my rant out of the way and will now enjoy the rest of my opening day! I hope everyone has a wonderful day and the Twins win!

It was as obvious and ominous as  thunderclouds on the horizon

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50 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I mean, maybe? I always suspected Bader would play quite a bit but not to the "everyday player" level. Like 350-400 PA territory.

Would he be in the lineup if both/either Lewis and Lee were healthy? Dunno, but I suspect not.

"Everyday player" is a relative term, I guess. The Twins had 8 players get to 350 PAs last year. Bader getting there would make him an "everyday player" in Twins terms. And I'd bet on him being over 400 (or on pace for before injury) this year which would've put him in the top 5 for the Twins last year. And the year before. Top 9 in 2022. Top 7 2021. 

If Miranda wasn't hitting 8th I'd be more likely to believe he wouldn't be playing if Lewis or Lee were healthy, but Miranda looks like the guy who barely made the lineup to me. I'd bet Miranda would be on the bench with Lewis or Lee at 3B and the rest of the guys in the same positions (lineup being shifted some, though). That's how Rocco has been running the lineup most of the spring. With Bader with this lineup and Miranda on the outside. And in the interviews Bader gave after he signed he spoke about the opportunity to play being a big part of signing here. He came here because he could play a lot. I'd be he's top 5 in PAs by the end of the year. Far more than his talent level says he should be. And that's been the plan from the beginning, not some injury forced outcome.

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Bader is a Cardinal product. I pretty much expected he would start on Opening Day against his old team. The Twins get a better defender in left and second while sacrificing Julien’s bat. I’m pretty meh about all that. I hope that by the end of April HB isn’t leading Twins’ OFs in plate appearances. 

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50 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

"Everyday player" is a relative term, I guess. The Twins had 8 players get to 350 PAs last year. Bader getting there would make him an "everyday player" in Twins terms. And I'd bet on him being over 400 (or on pace for before injury) this year which would've put him in the top 5 for the Twins last year. And the year before. Top 9 in 2022. Top 7 2021. 

If Miranda wasn't hitting 8th I'd be more likely to believe he wouldn't be playing if Lewis or Lee were healthy, but Miranda looks like the guy who barely made the lineup to me. I'd bet Miranda would be on the bench with Lewis or Lee at 3B and the rest of the guys in the same positions (lineup being shifted some, though). That's how Rocco has been running the lineup most of the spring. With Bader with this lineup and Miranda on the outside. And in the interviews Bader gave after he signed he spoke about the opportunity to play being a big part of signing here. He came here because he could play a lot. I'd be he's top 5 in PAs by the end of the year. Far more than his talent level says he should be. And that's been the plan from the beginning, not some injury forced outcome.

Maybe. Teams also do weird crap for the "honor of Opening Day". Vets get priority and things are slightly different for a single day.

The reality is that we probably will never know how much the Twins "planned" to play Bader because with this team, the 45th guy on the depth chart ends up with significant playing time because none of the starters can stay healthy, ever.

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2 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

Just like I feared and people told me I was crazy for suggesting...Harrison Bader is not here to be a 4th OF, short side platoon, Buxton insurance policy player. Harrison Bader is an everyday player for your 2025 Minnesota Twins. 

Ok, I got my rant out of the way and will now enjoy the rest of my opening day! I hope everyone has a wonderful day and the Twins win!

Well, one out of one is a high percentage, but a pretty small sample size.

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2 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

Just like I feared and people told me I was crazy for suggesting...Harrison Bader is not here to be a 4th OF, short side platoon, Buxton insurance policy player. Harrison Bader is an everyday player for your 2025 Minnesota Twins. 

Ok, I got my rant out of the way and will now enjoy the rest of my opening day! I hope everyone has a wonderful day and the Twins win!

But on the bright side, this lineup means he's not hitting for Wallner in the 6th inning. 

This was kinda what I thought was he quickest way to starts, when one of Wallner or Larnach DHs.  That's two starts a week and at least one more for Buxton.  It's the best of both worlds for me. 

I've always thought he was going to play a lot.  Kiersey over Martin on the roster kinda kills the platoon discussion-for now. 

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1 hour ago, stringer bell said:

Bader is a Cardinal product. I pretty much expected he would start on Opening Day against his old team. The Twins get a better defender in left and second while sacrificing Julien’s bat. I’m pretty meh about all that. I hope that by the end of April HB isn’t leading Twins’ OFs in plate appearances. 

I have little confidence in Julien's bat vs Sonny Gray

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45 minutes ago, big dog said:

Well, one out of one is a high percentage, but a pretty small sample size.

It's also the lineup they've used the last 2 weeks of spring. Rocco just preparing them for this one?

Obviously everything can change, and Rocco never sticks with a single lineup. But go listen to Bader interviews after signing. Listen to Rocco interviews early in spring. Look at the lineups from spring. To this point, there's far more evidence that this is, and has been, the plan.

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