Rumor: A new team is talking with Boras about Correa…

[AlwaysinModeration]

1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said:

No reason to create a new rumor thread. Here’s what I just saw. 

“Report: ‘Strong Possibility’ Twins Steal Correa from Mets”

And they have “momentum” per Jim Bowden.  For what it’s worth.

[AlwaysinModeration]

I said 25% when I posted this last night.  I’d say at least 50-50 now?

[AlwaysinModeration]

And just read on the other rumor thread the post by Brock saying he’s hearing secondhand that “it’s gonna happen.”  I’m pushing my odds up to 62.5%

[NotAboutWinning]

Well how wild would it be if our FO went from being viewed as Boras's rubes to the best poker players at the table in one move?

[Nine of twelve]

44 minutes ago, NotAboutWinning said:

Well how wild would it be if our FO went from being viewed as Boras's rubes to the best poker players at the table in one move?

This would move the Twins up to second place behind Boras. Boras always wins. The only question is how much he rakes in.

[nicksaviking]

6 hours ago, NotAboutWinning said:

Well how wild would it be if our FO went from being viewed as Boras's rubes to the best poker players at the table in one move?

I don’t know about best, maybe capable. If they land him, seems more like they foolishly went all in on a straight draw and were lucky enough to hit it on the river.

[AlwaysinModeration]

2 hours ago, NotAboutWinning said:

Well how wild would it be if our FO went from being viewed as Boras's rubes to the best poker players at the table in one move?

I’ll bet the plate in Correa’s ankle on it.

[August J Gloop]

Athletes are a funny bunch. Insane confidence, but really bad at math and downright cowardly when it comes to guaranteed money. I know that 315 >>>>> 285 but when you look at simple to calculate things like inflation and compound interest, the value CC tossed aside in the early years of the SFG / Mets deals vs the Twins deal is crazy. 

If CC had made an basically risk free 'gamble' on himself and played the 70 mil out through 24, he'd be hitting the market before his age 30 season. This while 3-4 Megadeals probably still look good and are still en vogue. He'd have literally no trouble getting the same 10 year deal the Twins offered for a total of 390 Million dollars for the same 12 years he was signing up for with the Mets. With a much bigger chunk up front. Meanwhile He's got such a better shot at being a 'face of baseball' in a good way playing for the Twins. The only way he stands out in NYM / SFG is if his deal goes to hell. (Irony). 

Sure the other deal was Guaranteed, but what kind of risk does he really have? Was he leveraged to a third world dictator? If he craps out in the next two years, he's only earned 105 Million for two years of work, and never has to worry.

These cats get so much bad advice. It's like they all hire financial advisors from their agents offices. Or they sign deals where their agents get paid in the first year of the contract or something (cuz money now is worth like 20% more today than it is in 10 years) 

[dxpavelka]

15 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

I’d do the 3/$105 contract without the opt outs, no questions asked.

I might as well.  Correa on the other hand.....

[AlwaysinModeration]

17 hours ago, August J Gloop said:

 

If CC had made an basically risk free 'gamble' on himself and played the 70 mil out through 24, he'd be hitting the market before his age 30 season. … He'd have literally no trouble getting the same 10 year deal the Twins offered …. With a much bigger chunk up front. 

 

All true and I’ve wondered why he didn’t go for shorter, higher AAV contracts. Two reasons come to mind:

1) Boras wanted to get the full commission, so incentivized to get him out of the Twins 3/105 deal as soon as possible

2) Maybe the plate in his ankle is legitimately going to disintegrate after a few years, so he wants to get as long a contract with as high a value as possible now.

[lake_guy]

3 hours ago, AlwaysinModeration said:

All true and I’ve wondered why he didn’t go for shorter, higher AAV contracts. Two reasons come to mind:

1) Boras wanted to get the full commission, so incentivized to get him out of the Twins 3/105 deal as soon as possible

2) Maybe the plate in his ankle is legitimately going to disintegrate after a few years, so he wants to get as long a contract with as high a value as possible now.

It's along the lines of #2.  In the world of guaranteed contracts and the ever present risk of injury it's a simple equation of taking the most money you can get.  These guys bet on themselves only to position themselves for a better long term deal, when that comes in unless it's so off mark they take it.

[Major League Ready]

Correa to the Mets looking less likely.     Tweet from Cohen

 

[KirbyHawk75]

I think the Mets and Boras are playing the Twins again.

[PseudoSABR]

2 hours ago, KirbyHawk75 said:

I think the Mets and Boras are playing the Twins again.

Again?

[Brock Beauchamp]

8 hours ago, KirbyHawk75 said:

I think the Mets and Boras are playing the Twins again.

I don't think this is true at all. Based on what I've heard, I think the Twins have a 50% chance of signing Correa, it really depends whether Cohen is going to step in and just say "yes" despite him leaning toward "no" publicly.

But hey, he's Steve Cohen and he's worth something like $15b. He says yes one minute, no the other, The Twins can't compete if he's in a good mood in the moment and sticks with it through the signing period.

[Fatbat]

Offer carlos a ten year $350M with and opt out after every year. He will likely exercise it in November 2023 but can say to himself in the mean time that he signed a long term dream deal.  Boras can also claim to be the best agent ever. Lol. 

[KirbyHawk75]

On another thread here it was said that Bowden stated on radio that Correa and the Mets are finalizing a deal.  Once again the Twins were used.  I wasted so much time and nothing happened.  F Correa and Boras!

[Irishman]

On 1/7/2023 at 4:49 PM, KirbyHawk75 said:

I think the Mets and Boras are playing the Twins again.

I also think Boras use Twins as a leverage to lure Mets to change mind and sign CC.   

I feel Martin, Lee, Lewis or other players would just do fine.

 

 

[SanoMustGo]

It's nice how Boras uses the Twins FO like a puppet master.  Doesn't say much for the people running this organization.  I won't say how I feel about Boras(except he is bad for baseball). I wonder if any of the Twins pitchers would consider planting one in Correa's ribs when they play this season.

[Aaron Weiland]

1 hour ago, SanoMustGo said:

It's nice how Boras uses the Twins FO like a puppet master.  Doesn't say much for the people running this organization.  I won't say how I feel about Boras(except he is bad for baseball). I wonder if any of the Twins pitchers would consider planting one in Correa's ribs when they play this season.

Yes I'm sure the guys that all loved playing with Correa so much they FaceTimed him to get him involved with a uniform reveal for a team he no longer played for will decide to throw 90mph projectiles at his ribs because he tried to get paid in the offseason, a goal every last one of them share in common. 

You're taking the game and business of baseball waaaaaaaayyy too seriously.

[jorgenswest]

The best way not to be used is the be the Pirates and not participate.  All negotiations will use the buyers against each other. If you don’t want the Twins to be used you must not want them to buyers.

[SanoMustGo]

27 minutes ago, Aaron Weiland said:

Yes I'm sure the guys that all loved playing with Correa so much they FaceTimed him to get him involved with a uniform reveal for a team he no longer played for will decide to throw 90mph projectiles at his ribs because he tried to get paid in the offseason, a goal every last one of them share in common. 

You're taking the game and business of baseball waaaaaaaayyy too seriously.

No, I'm just sick of what the sport has become.  I won't pay a dime to watch a game on TV or go to a stadium to watch any pro sports except for the NHL.  In fact, I don't watch baseball any longer, games are too long and the Twins are no longer competitive. But, I like sharing my thoughts...so that's what I do.

[Parfigliano]

On 1/7/2023 at 8:28 AM, AlwaysinModeration said:

All true and I’ve wondered why he didn’t go for shorter, higher AAV contracts. Two reasons come to mind:

1) Boras wanted to get the full commission, so incentivized to get him out of the Twins 3/105 deal as soon as possible

2) Maybe the plate in his ankle is legitimately going to disintegrate after a few years, so he wants to get as long a contract with as high a value as possible now.

My bet is both 1 and 2 are true.

[Riverbrian]

11 hours ago, SanoMustGo said:

No, I'm just sick of what the sport has become.  I won't pay a dime to watch a game on TV or go to a stadium to watch any pro sports except for the NHL.  In fact, I don't watch baseball any longer, games are too long and the Twins are no longer competitive. But, I like sharing my thoughts...so that's what I do.

I hate to ask the obvious question but I will. 

If you are not watching games any longer. What value are your thoughts? 

 

[SanoMustGo]

5 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

I hate to ask the obvious question but I will. 

If you are not watching games any longer. What value are your thoughts? 

 

I don't care about that

[Irishman]

1 hour ago, SanoMustGo said:

I don't care about that

LOL!    Agree!    I don’t care about any professional sports.   

[AlwaysinModeration]

Talks between the Twins and Boras re: Correa are “accelerating”….

[Brock Beauchamp]

2 minutes ago, AlwaysinModeration said:

Talks between the Twins and Boras re: Correa are “accelerating”….

[AlwaysinModeration]

It’s up to 80% now, I tell you.

But did Correa really tackle Boras into a hotel bed when he landed him the Mets “contract”?  I might’ve had that reaction if it was the Yankees…or the White Sox.

[KirbyHawk75]

Everytime I give up, my hopes go up again.  I am still sure the Twins and their fans are going to get burned.