TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 I hope he's in the clear and a speedy recovery.
jimbo92107 Verified Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Poverty makes men desperate. A lot of desperate people in the Caribbean. I hope they patch up Ortiz quickly and well.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Also, now it sounds like it was attempted murder instead of a robbery gone wrong.
jud6312 Verified Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Man, I get that the Dominican Republic, Venezuela, etc. are home to these guys, and always will be, but it just seems like bad things happen during off-seasons and retirements. Granted, senseless violence, car crashes, and the like can happen anywhere, but the rate seems disproportionately high in some of these places.
Musk21 Community Moderator Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Also, now it sounds like it was attempted murder instead of a robbery gone wrong. Yeah, the surveillance tape of the shooting clearly shows that it was not an attempted robbery. Ortiz is lucky to be alive.
Thegrin Verified Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Instead of wringing our hands and deploring the conditions in their home countries, perhaps we should support private efforts to improve their economies. Also, Prayer never hurts.
jud6312 Verified Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Ah yes, prayer ... the solution to everything.
ashbury Verified Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Instead of wringing our hands and deploring the conditions in their home countries, perhaps we should support private efforts to improve their economies. Also, Prayer never hurts. Ah yes, prayer ... the solution to everything.Moderator's note: One person brings up prayer, another immediately shoots down the thought. The tangent stops here.
jud6312 Verified Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Holy crap ... missed this part about the perp the first time I read the ESPN story about it: "was captured and beaten by a crowd of people at the bar."
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Safe travels back to the US, Big Papi!
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 This is a bizarre story. The Daily Mail is reporting that he was shot by two police officers, who were ordered to kill him by a drug kingpin, in retaliation for allegedly sleeping with his wife.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 This is a bizarre story. The Daily Mail is reporting that he was shot by two police officers, who were ordered to kill him by a drug kingpin, in retaliation for allegedly sleeping with his wife.That sounds like an Onion story. A group of people at that bar captured one of the shooters and handed him over to the police after getting a few kicks to his dome. The Daily Mail is reporting fake news.
jkcarew Verified Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Safe travels back to the US, Big Papi!Used to be the Twins private plane. Abandoned due to what were considered major mechanical issues at the time. Works great now, though. (but only joking because Papi is stable...good to see him get safe!)
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 That sounds like an Onion story. A group of people at that bar captured one of the shooters and handed him over to the police after getting a few kicks to his dome. The Daily Mail is reporting fake news.I can understand being skeptical, until another outlet reports it as well, but how can you possibly be close enough to the situation to definitively call it "fake news"?
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 I can understand being skeptical, until another outlet reports it as well, but how can you possibly be close enough to the situation to definitively call it "fake news"?It's just so outlandish compared to the other updates I've read so far. Oh well, we'll find out soon enough what happened.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 It's just so outlandish compared to the other updates I've read so far. Oh well, we'll find out soon enough what happened.Yeah, it's incredibly bizarre. But, there is no news story bizarre enough to be out of the reach of human capacity.FWIW, the Daily Mail is citing 3 separate sources within Dominican law enforcement, and several mainstream media outlets seem to be comfortable citing the Daily Mail report, including NBC Sports.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted June 11, 2019 Posted June 11, 2019 This is a bizarre story.The Daily Mail is reporting that he was shot by two police officers, who were ordered to kill him by a drug kingpin, in retaliation for allegedly sleeping with his wife.Could well be true, and could be we won't know for sure, but the CNN account says those claims are false. Well, the police officers being involved part. It doesn't say anything about the drug kingpin ordering the hit. https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/09/americas/mlb-david-ortiz-shot-dominican-republic/index.html '"Our institution has no link to the event which occurred in the club Dial in the Venezuela Avenue, yesterday Sunday," National Police said in a news release.They cautioned the public against speculation and the spread of false information.'
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted June 11, 2019 Posted June 11, 2019 Could well be true, and could be we won't know for sure, but the CNN account says those claims are false. Well, the police officers being involved part. It doesn't say anything about the drug kingpin ordering the hit. https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/09/americas/mlb-david-ortiz-shot-dominican-republic/index.html '"Our institution has no link to the event which occurred in the club Dial in the Venezuela Avenue, yesterday Sunday," National Police said in a news release.They cautioned the public against speculation and the spread of false information.'The CNN article doesn't say they are false, CNN is just quoting the National Police. It's also a vague quote. It could be a translation issue, but they don't explicitly deny that either of the shooters were police officers. "Our Institution" could mean that the officers were not representing the agency. It could also mean that they are former police officers. Everyone should be skeptical, until we get more facts, I totally agree. I'm just passing along what one media outlet is reporting, not endorsing it as fact.
GP830 Verified Member Posted June 11, 2019 Posted June 11, 2019 Sounds like a movie plot.Kennys Vargas could play Papi.
TFRazor Verified Member Posted June 11, 2019 Posted June 11, 2019 The video is hard to watch. Papi was definitely the target. Finding out why will be interesting.
Doomtints Verified Member Posted June 12, 2019 Posted June 12, 2019 He is walking around now, which is good. From the reports it sounds like there was significant damage but it looks like he will be OK. There will be no drinking of the milk of the Papi quite yet.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 The whole thing is odd in the extreme. Glad he survived and appears to be on the way to recovery.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 Good to hear, I guess? Is it possible this is a cover up, so as not to disgrace a national hero? Well, that's what's going around twitter.
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