Andrew Thares Twins Daily Contributor Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 In the modern era of baseball, we are constantly in awe of the tremendous stuff that major league pitchers are bringing to the mound night in and night out. At the same time teams are putting a greater emphasis on hitting the ball out of the park because it is becoming ever more difficult to string a few hits together to put runs up on the board. As a result of that we sometimes get games like the one today between the Twins and Brewers.Snapshot (chart via FanGraphs)Jake Odorizzi: 51 Game Score, 5 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 9 K, 4 BB, 61.5% strikesBullpen: 3 IP, 0 ER, 0 H, 7 K, 0 BBLineup: 0-for-5 w/RISP, 8 LOBBottom three per WPA: Jake Cave -.118, Max Kepler -.111, Bobby Wilson -.105 Download attachment: vs Brewers 7-3-2018.PNG As you can probably tell from that intro, if you didn’t get a chance to watch today’s game you really didn’t miss much. The two pitching staffs combined to strike out 29 batters while surrendering only six hits. In what is the same old story that we have been telling all year, with the exception of Eddie Rosario and Eduardo Escobar the Twins offense was completely nonexistent. The only two times a Twin not named Rosario or Escobar reached base were on a first inning double by Jorge Polanco and a fourth inning walk from Max Kepler. Jake Odorizzi had another one of his patented five inning outings. In each of his 18 outings so far this year, Odorizzi has yet to pitch more than six innings. This biggest reason for that is the 19.3 pitches per inning that he is averaging this year, which leads all qualified starting pitchers by nearly a pitch per inning. The lone runs in the game came on a two-run home run from Brewers outfielder Eric Thames in the bottom of the fifth. If there is one bright spot the Twins can take away from today’s game, it is the performances from Ryan Pressly and Gabriel Moya (who was called up today). The two combined to throw three perfect innings in relief, striking out seven of the nine batters that they faced. Bullpen UsageHere’s a quick look at the number of pitches thrown by the bullpen over the past five days: Download attachment: 7-3-2018 vs Brewers.PNG AL Central StandingsCLE 46-37DET 38-49 (-10)MIN 35-47 (-10.5)CWS 29-55 (-17.5)KC 25-59 (-21.5) Next Three GamesWednesday @ MIL, 3:10 PM CST – RHP Jose Berrios vs RHP Chase AndersonThursday vs BAL, 7:10 PM CST – TBD vs TBDFriday vs BAL, 7:10 PM CST – TBD vs TBD Last Three GamesMIL 6, MIN 5: Oh, That Rodney ExperienceCHC 11, MIN 10: Epic Comeback Falls ShortCHC 14, MIN 9: It’s Not the Heat, It’s … Actually, It Is the Heat This Time More From Twins DailyTwins Minor League Hitter Of The Month - June 20182018 Twins Midseason Top Prospect List: 31-35The Time to Trade Kyle Gibson Is Now Click here to view the article nicksaviking 1
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 The run for 100 losses is back on! jokin, Doctor Wu and Richie the Rally Goat 3
LeatherAntenna Verified Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 Real disappointment this season. After last season, I was expecting to look forward to several or more years of Rosario, Buxton and Kep playing together and getting more potent year over year in the outfield. Looks like that doesn’t happen. I see one or more of them gone soon. mikelink45 1
jimbo92107 Verified Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 Might do well to DFA Morrison, bring up Vargas, then go 1. Polanco2. Rosario3. Escobar4. Vargas... At least that looks like a starting four. mikelink45 and jun 2
snepp Verified Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 Oh. You forgot the "boy" on the end of that post. wsnydes and jokin 2
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 Josh Hader threw three innings. I've said that every team should be trying to acquire or at least creating their own version of Andrew Miller. The Brewers have created one. nicksaviking, h2oface, mngopherguy and 3 others 6
mikelink45 Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 When the new baseball strategies developed making a K unimportant the Twins did not get the message that if the K is unimportant it is because the batter will potentially hit a HR the next AB. HAHAHA............. This team strikes out because it can't hit the baseball. The opposing pitcher looks like Cy Young or Sandy Koufax, but believe me - he is not. BJames 1
snepp Verified Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 Time for the bag on the head. As long as you stay away from Joe's, the rest of the team could surely use one.
bluechipper Provisional Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 Might do well to DFA Morrison, bring up Vargas, then go 1. Polanco2. Rosario3. Escobar4. Vargas... At least that looks like a starting four.I have yet to understand the Kennys Vargas love. He has a .677 OPS at AAA this year. He is simply not very good. wsnydes, mngopherguy and Danchat 3
jun Verified Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) Josh Hader threw three innings. I've said that every team should be trying to acquire or at least creating their own version of Andrew Miller. The Brewers have created one. The Brewers have more than one. At least 2 maybe 3 dominant relievers. Jeffress has a better ERA than Hader. Well the Brewers have 5 relievers having better ERA than its closer. The closer's ERA is 3.05 and he struck out the side in the 9th today. This is a monster bullpen. Edited July 4, 2018 by jun bird 1
jun Verified Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) When the new baseball strategies developed making a K unimportant the Twins did not get the message that if the K is unimportant it is because the batter will potentially hit a HR the next AB. HAHAHA............. This team strikes out because it can't hit the baseball. The opposing pitcher looks like Cy Young or Sandy Koufax, but believe me - he is not.You have to give the credit when it's due. The Brewers has a monster bullpen. It's the best in the major league. Today's starter is its best starter with an ERA of 2.87. Hader is going to the All Star game this year. Their closer is a shutdown closer. Was their closer an All Star last year? I believe the Twins will see Jeffress tomorrow if it's a close game. Another dominant reliever who is going to the All Star game this year. Edited July 4, 2018 by jun Danchat, mikelink45 and bird 3
Danchat Verified Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 I have yet to understand the Kennys Vargas love. He has a .677 OPS at AAA this year. He is simply not very good.Absolutely agreed, Vargas isn't hitting at AAA, so why would he hit better against major league pitching? The DH solution isn't in the current organization, but I would be fine if Morrison was DFA'd. wabene, bluechipper and wsnydes 3
jun Verified Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) I have yet to understand the Kennys Vargas love. He has a .677 OPS at AAA this year. He is simply not very good.Morrison has been worse. Vargas is still relatively young. I believe Vargas can at least hit over .200 in the major league. Edited July 4, 2018 by jun BJames, Dakota Diver, lukeduke1980 and 1 other 4
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 The Brewers have more than one. At least 2 maybe 3 dominant relievers. Jeffress has a better ERA than Hader. Well the Brewers have 5 relievers having better ERA than its closer. The closer's ERA is 3.05 and he struck out the side in the 9th today. This is a monster bullpen. Yeah Along with power, speed, defense, depth and farm help a phone call away... all inside a 98 million dollar payroll. This Stearn guy is a GM who can GM. jun, jokin, Danchat and 4 others 7
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 How can the Royals possibly be 11 games worse than the Twins? Doctor Wu and Jerr 2
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 How can the Royals possibly be 11 games worse than the Twins?If biblically bad baseball is your thing, KC and Baltimore could challenge Detroit's modern day record of 119 losses set in 2003... Should be exciting!
D.C Twins Verified Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 Only TWO GAMES OUT of the the 3rd pick in next year's draft! LET'S DO THIS! KirbyDome89 1
D.C Twins Verified Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 ooops….make that next year's FOURTH PICK.... LET'S STILL DO THIS! jokin, Danchat and KirbyDome89 3
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 I have yet to understand the Kennys Vargas love. He has a .677 OPS at AAA this year. He is simply not very good.'' IOW, Vargas would fit in perfectly in this lineup.... Riverbrian, Jerr and Danchat 3
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 The Brewers have more than one. At least 2 maybe 3 dominant relievers. Jeffress has a better ERA than Hader. Well the Brewers have 5 relievers having better ERA than its closer. The closer's ERA is 3.05 and he struck out the side in the 9th today. This is a monster bullpen. And the monsters can go multiple innings, so- you don't burn out your pen- or get caught in a bind like Sunday- as Molitor so often does by situationalizing everything. Riverbrian, Jerr and jun 3
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 You forgot the "boy" on the end of that post. Instead of a "boy" on the back end, maybe he forgot an "Uh" on the front end? Jerr, snepp, h2oface and 1 other 4
bighat Verified Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) I feel like the Twins might not win another game this season. Being a fan of this team feels like being a blackjack addict getting dealt 16 every hand. Just no real chance at all to win, and even those small number of times you get lucky, the dealer's showing an ace. You play one more hand because maybe THIS time you'll win. Kick yourself, repeat. Happy 4th! I'm taking a flight back to Minnesota today, all the way from Guatemala. I'm going to pack my winter jacket - I've got a 4-hour layover inside the Miami Airport, after all. Edited July 4, 2018 by bighat Squirrel, h2oface, Jerr and 2 others 5
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 How can the Royals possibly be 11 games worse than the Twins? They missed a 4 foot putt on 18 to be 10 games worse. h2oface 1
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 ooops….make that next year's FOURTH PICK.... LET'S STILL DO THIS! It'll be a 3 person draft.
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 '' IOW, Vargas would fit in perfectly in this lineup.... And cost 5.4 million dollars less. jun and jokin 2
mikelink45 Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 You have to give the credit when it's due. The Brewers has a monster bullpen. It's the best in the major league. Today's starter is its best starter with an ERA of 2.87. Hader is going to the All Star game this year. Their closer is a shutdown closer. Was their closer an All Star last year? I believe the Twins will see Jeffress tomorrow if it's a close game. Another dominant reliever who is going to the All Star game this year.It is easier to give credit when the Twins aren't making every reliever on every team look like an all-star. h2oface and jun 2
BJames Provisional Member Posted July 4, 2018 Posted July 4, 2018 I don't understand the Hate of Vargas. No one is saying he'll lead the team to 90 wins, but WAKE UP and smell the Coffee man, our DH is hitting unders .200 thru July. Time for a change and the old DH (who hit .253 last year with a .758OPS. career stats are about the same) is wasted at AAA. Also, why is Wilson on this team. Garver or Astudillo might not be good catchers, but that's not an issue right now. Likewise I'd like to see Cave playing CF everyday. jun 1
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