Parker Hageman Site Manager Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Once a fast-rising, hard-throwing reliever in the system, JT Chargois was limited to two outings in 2017 and was later diagnosed with a stress reaction in his elbow. Chargois, who had his UCL surgically repaired in 2013, has been slow to recover from the latest injury. According to the Pioneer Press's Mike Berardino, the Twins may be attempting to clear him through waivers, removing him from the 40-man roster and reassigning him to Rochester. Chargois has spent the offseason working out but there has been little update on his throwing program. It's possible that, given his status, he will sneak through and be able to recover and rebuild in the organization. UPDATE: The Twins lose Chargois on the waviers to the Los Angeles Dodgers.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Why not 60 DL if he's still hurt? That he is being waived would imply he's healthy, correct?
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 With so many decent vets still looking for a job, here's hoping other teams are just as guarded of their current 40-man spots.
Puckett34 Verified Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Curious to see what they are making room for.
Platoon Verified Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Good grief, all those hard throwing RP prospects, falling like dominoes.
slash129 Verified Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Inb4 "This is why we shouldn't have signed Sanchez"
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 I figured it was for Sanchez or Odorizzi, but I see they've already been added. This could be exciting. If it was a free agent move teams typically have time before the announcement and actual signing when they have time to clear a spot. Is a trade more likely?
Oxtung Verified Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Seems pretty clear the new FO doesn't think much of hard throwing relievers that can't stay healthy. Bard, Melotakis, Chargois and Burdi all discarded without any return. Can't say that I'm impressed with this path forward but ultimately we will see how the FO replaces their upside in the bullpen. As it's said, the devil is in the details.
Danchat Verified Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Darn. Some of us were hoping he'd take over the closer role by the end of 2017, but instead he's being outrighted during spring of 2017. Hopefully this is a repeat of the Melotakis situation and they'll be able to get him through waivers and retain him because I think he has make it takes to be a reliever in the majors.
h2oface Old-Timey Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 All those hard throwing relief picks.... now wasted.But hey, we have been sanchezed!
Shaitan Verified Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 A good time to sneak someone through. Nobody has seen him pitch in a year.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Hope he stays in the organization but can't say I'm surprised with this move. Way too injury prone to be counted on.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 So we can assume this doesn't involve a free agent, as there's no reason to clear space on the 40-man for a guy you haven't signed yet. And if you've already signed him, you'd just say so.
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Bit perplexed to see Chargois on waivers instead of Slegers... Mayo says that Chargois has the best fastball and the best slider of the system. Slegers is replacement level. I just don't get it.
GP830 Verified Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 So we can assume this doesn't involve a free agent, as there's no reason to clear space on the 40-man for a guy you haven't signed yet. And if you've already signed him, you'd just say so.Then perhaps a trade?
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Then perhaps a trade?Possibly, though I'm at a loss for whom.
South Dakota Tom Verified Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Then perhaps a trade?...of a minor leaguer not on the 40 man for an instant addition to the roster?
HrbekRules Verified Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 There has to be a reason as to why they did this now, and the suspense of why is driving me crazy.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 There has to be a reason as to why they did this now, and the suspense of why is driving me crazy.Rumor has it they did it specifically for that reason.
DuluthFan Verified Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 If he cannot pitch this season, it is best to make this move now as it will be easier to sneak him through waivers. The other teams would be less likely to make a waiver claim on him before seeing their own players set foot on the practice fields. Later in the spring teams will pick up waivers claims after seeing how their own players perform.
bird Verified Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Seems pretty clear the new FO doesn't think much of hard throwing relievers that can't stay healthy. Bard, Melotakis, Chargois and Burdi all discarded without any return. Can't say that I'm impressed with this path forward but ultimately we will see how the FO replaces their upside in the bullpen. As it's said, the devil is in the details. Aren't Zach Jones and Cameron Booser still with us?
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Bit perplexed to see Chargois on waivers instead of Slegers... Mayo says that Chargois has the best fastball and the best slider of the system. Slegers is replacement level. I just don't get it.Durable SP vs. RP who has never stayed healthy more than a season. No brainer to me.
darin617 Verified Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 I just hope this is not the FO trying to think they are so smart by figuring he will clear waivers. But this is also the same FO that gave Anibal Sanchez a MLB deal when he could have easily been picked up on a minor league deal with Spring Training invite. It should be Slegers, Sanchez or the Rule 5 pitcher they picked up being dumped before they do any other moves.
darin617 Verified Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 If he cannot pitch this season, it is best to make this move now as it will be easier to sneak him through waivers. The other teams would be less likely to make a waiver claim on him before seeing their own players set foot on the practice fields. Later in the spring teams will pick up waivers claims after seeing how their own players perform.Same part though there is nothing stopping a team from claiming him and trying to sneak him through right after that. Toronto was famous for doing that.
Oxtung Verified Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 If he isn't healthy enough to pitch this season than the correct place for him is the DL. Playing games with service time for an injured player is deplorable.
mikelink45 Old-Timey Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 I have been disappointed for two years. We sign lots of pitching coaches, but do not seem to have faith that they can work with our prospects.
KirbyDome89 Verified Member Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Tyler Kinley....just saying...
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