Simeon Woods Richardson Deserves A Rotation Spot

[Cody Pirkl]

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The Twins have no shortage of starting pitching depth. Behind Lopez, Ryan, and Ober, the last two rotation spots have yet to be determined. From inexperienced and high upside options like Mick Abel to experienced pitchers like Taj Bradley, who has made 75 starts in his career already, the Twins will have to choose who heads north with the two remaining rotation spots. Simeon Woods Richardson should already be penciled in for one of them.

 

Simeon Woods Richardson's resume to this point in his career may not be that of a high-end starting pitcher, but it's more than good enough to have earned a spot at the back end of an MLB rotation. With a 4.21 ERA across 254 innings, Richardson has had his fair share of struggles but has also helped keep the Twins' pitching staff afloat at times.

 

He's also shown an ability to adjust, most recently by adding a splitter to his arsenal, which became arguably his most effective pitch last season. He seemed to find something at the end of 2025, allowing two runs in his last three starts and striking out 23 hitters in his last 17 innings. He's already shown that he's a capable back-of-the-rotation starting pitcher. Though he lacks the excitement of Zebby Matthews or David Festa, Woods Richardson is only a few months older than these two despite a much longer track record of better performance.

Roster flexibility has to be a major consideration, and Simeon Woods Richardson is out of minor league options. Assuming he isn't traded, he will make the Opening Day roster. Unlike many other rotation candidates, the Twins can't stash him in St. Paul to await a future opening in the rotation. He needs to break camp with the team either in the rotation or in the bullpen. The latter seems like an odd fit.

 

While we've seen recent success with the Twins moving starting pitchers to the bullpen and turning them into impact relievers, it's worth wondering how well-suited Woods Richardson is to this path. He doesn't get outs in a way that would traditionally project a step-up in performance in shorter stints.

The repertoire essentially became a four-pitch mix in 2025 as he scrapped his changeup for what was a dominant splitter. His new pitch drew whiffs at a 32.7% rate and was nearly unhittable with a .168 xwOBA allowed. His slider was his second-best pitch in terms of whiffs and quality of contact allowed. Unfortunately, it would take an enormous leap in fastball performance to see it all come together in a bullpen role. His heater graded out at 83 in the Stuff+ metric, where 100 is average. This is despite the pitch averaging a career-high 93.1 mph. The Twins have a long list of young pitchers who could profile as a much-needed high-leverage reliever. Simeon Woods Richardson is toward the bottom of that list without an intriguing fastball.

 

We've seen the Twins choose to keep young, optionable pitchers in Triple-A to begin the season, instead trusting more experienced, known commodities. We should expect them to do so again. Instead of low ceiling, short-term fillers like J.A. Happ, Matt Shoemaker, etc., who we’ve seen them roll with in the past, they would be doing the same with 25-year-old Simeon Woods Richardson this time. With team control through 2030, what would be considered the “least exciting” option for the back end of the rotation would come with plenty of upside.

It may be a different conversation if Zebby Matthews or David Festa had put together more success in their careers thus far, or if another pitcher with more perceived upside was also out of options. The truth is that Simeon Woods Richardson can easily be argued as the safest choice for an open rotation spot on a team that will need every win they can get. Awarding him the job allows the team to maintain maximum starting pitching depth, with his potential competition being stashed at St. Paul to be called up at a moment's notice. He's also performed better than anyone else in this group across a much larger sample size than most.

 

While it's easy to get excited about some of the new or up-and-coming arms in the system, Simeon Woods Richardson remains the best option to fill one of the two remaining rotation spots. Do you agree?

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[OregonTwinsFan]

I wouldn't mind trading him for a couple of high-leverage bullpen arms or possibly a shortstop. I would rather have Zebby and Taj fill out the back end of the rotation.

[rdehring]

Nothing about SWR screams he belongs in the Twins starting rotation.  That is except his results over the past what, two years.  Or is it three?

[Parfigliano]

Is there an indication he somehow won't be in the rotation come opening day?

[bean5302]

He's got no options so he'll either be in the rotation or the bullpen. It's his job to lose in Spring Training. As it stands right now, there are 4 spots which are pretty much locks in the rotation AFAIC.

1 Pablo Lopez (no options)
2 Joe Ryan (3 options has only 4yrs service time)
3 Bailey Ober (1 option has only 4 yrs service time)
4 Simeon Woods Richardson (no options)

Leaving the 5th spot open for
Taj Bradley (1 option)
Zebby Matthews (2 options)
David Festa (2 options)
Mick Abel (2 options)
Kendry Rojas (3 options)
Connor Prielipp (3 options)
Andrew Morris (3 options)

SWR has a lot of fans around here with his smoke and mirrors results show. I'm not one of his advocates primarily because he hasn't demonstrated the endurance needed for a starter role despite a sizable sample at this point. That said, he got the results needed from a #4-5 arm when he was on the mound.

[thelanges5]

SWR has been solid and resilient. His 4.21 career era is better than Festa 5.12 and Zebby 5.92. They may have better stuff or more upside but haven’t been able to put it together. 

Lots of innings available with 3 SPs at the WBC. Injury, ineffectiveness, or a move to the BP will help to sort this out. 
 

[arby58]

1 hour ago, rdehring said:

Nothing about SWR screams he belongs in the Twins starting rotation.  That is except his results over the past what, two years.  Or is it three?

Yeah, all he does is give them a chance to win in most of his starts. Festa has injury issues, and Matthews seems to get hit hard more often than you would expect. SWR isn't flashy, but he gets the job done.

[arby58]

31 minutes ago, bean5302 said:

Leaving the 5th spot open for
Taj Bradley (1 option)
Zebby Matthews (2 options)
David Festa (2 options)
Mick Abel (2 options)
Kendry Rojas (3 options)
Connor Prielipp (3 options)
Andrew Morris (3 options)

I tend to agree with pretty much all of this (though I'm more of an SWR fan based on results). My guess is the last spot is Bradley or Abel. Bradley has a bit of an edge since he only has one option remaining.

[Pykkman]

Ober is the bigger question mark.   

[Over The Hill Again]

I would rather see the Twins trade him than force him into a BP role that he doesn’t seem suited for. As he is, I think he’s the quintessential #4 or #5 guy, smoke and mirrors or whatever. 

[Linus]

It’s strange to me the lack of love Sim gets. I don’t know if it’s because he doesn’t throw 97 or if people are not satisfied unless he’s prime Verlander. The dude competes on the mound and is a solid 4th starter or good 5th starter. All the suspects people are excited about are the same age or older and haven’t done a thing compared to SWR.  

[DarrenPS]

Yes SWR is a lock as the 4th starter if no one gets traded between now and March. I would like to see Taj at 5, Festa moved to the pen and everyone else stored at AAA. I know people will get upset with wasting Zebby's arm at AAA but he will be next man up when someone inevitably goes down. He deserves 1 more year long chance as a starter as well

I will say 5 will go to whoever performs best out of Zebby and Taj in spring training, though, after Taj returns from the WBC

[bean5302]

16 hours ago, Linus said:

It’s strange to me the lack of love Sim gets. I don’t know if it’s because he doesn’t throw 97 or if people are not satisfied unless he’s prime Verlander. The dude competes on the mound and is a solid 4th starter or good 5th starter. All the suspects people are excited about are the same age or older and haven’t done a thing compared to SWR.  

I think it's strange how his proponents ignore the fact he doesn't put the Twins in a good position to win ball games.

Every run a pitcher allows makes a massive difference to the likelihood of winning a game. That's why the traditional 3 ER allowed in 6 innings isn't a very good performance. It's a 4.50 ERA. If a starter goes out and delivers 6 IP and allows 3 ER, the lineup can be expected to need to generate 5 runs to win the game.

Similarly, if a pitcher can't at least get all the way through the 5th inning, it's exhausting for the bullpen... which can be expected to allow at least 1, but often 2 more runs in a game.

A real quality start is a pitcher who goes out there, gives a team 5.0+ innings with an ERA below 4.00. Sim got demoted to AAA because he was struggling to do that. I believe he was down at 37.5% QS rate at that point. Not the worst ever, but bad enough to deserve being sent to AAA... on the Twins.

2025 = 45% (10 of 22)
2024 = 43% (12 of 28)

[old nurse]

16 hours ago, Linus said:

It’s strange to me the lack of love Sim gets. I don’t know if it’s because he doesn’t throw 97 or if people are not satisfied unless he’s prime Verlander. The dude competes on the mound and is a solid 4th starter or good 5th starter. All the suspects people are excited about are the same age or older and haven’t done a thing compared to SWR.  

A.  League average ERA is a 4’5 starter or worse by the people here. A pitcher that pitched 100 innings or more is someone that teams on average only have 3 of, yet the people here see no value in that.   Pitching that is reliable is a hard commodity to come by in baseball 

[Peter Gravett]

19 hours ago, bean5302 said:

He's got no options so he'll either be in the rotation or the bullpen. It's his job to lose in Spring Training. As it stands right now, there are 4 spots which are pretty much locks in the rotation AFAIC.

1 Pablo Lopez (no options)
2 Joe Ryan (3 options has only 4yrs service time)
3 Bailey Ober (1 option has only 4 yrs service time)
4 Simeon Woods Richardson (no options)

Leaving the 5th spot open for
Taj Bradley (1 option)
Zebby Matthews (2 options)
David Festa (2 options)
Mick Abel (2 options)
Kendry Rojas (3 options)
Connor Prielipp (3 options)
Andrew Morris (3 options)

SWR has a lot of fans around here with his smoke and mirrors results show. I'm not one of his advocates primarily because he hasn't demonstrated the endurance needed for a starter role despite a sizable sample at this point. That said, he got the results needed from a #4-5 arm when he was on the mound.

He is the one starter that would benefit from a piggyback arrangement IMO. 

[killercarewoliva]

18 hours ago, Linus said:

It’s strange to me the lack of love Sim gets. I don’t know if it’s because he doesn’t throw 97 or if people are not satisfied unless he’s prime Verlander. The dude competes on the mound and is a solid 4th starter or good 5th starter. All the suspects people are excited about are the same age or older and haven’t done a thing compared to SWR.  

swr was the best pitcher we had in September. he came in with a new pitch and he just did absolutely phenomenal did no one notice that? he had some injury time and he probably tried to pitch through it. a little lowering his era but this guy is top notch. as far as the fifth starter, I'm thinking they're going to pick Bradley. who has it been all that good but at the end of September he also was fantastic. Abel did as good as you can do against his old team. if that's how he's going to pitch in the future then have at it make him number five but he has no history of greatness like he did that game and neither does Bradley but Richardson has some great games. I'm thinking I'm going to want to try to be in front of the TV every time he gets on the mound. I find it to be an enormously entertaining and wonderful time, but most of you call me crazy. okay that's fine. since I live so far from Minnesota I look at the ticket prices except for this new $3 game thing and other stadiums being like this. also, everybody should boycott do not go my God $300 $900 to watch one baseball game anywhere is crazy.

 

[killercarewoliva]

let's take a look at the players. all of them. anybody watch the MLB channel? they never talk about pricing cuz they're not allowed to. when someone gets a contract for super millions of dollars and it has gotten way out of hand years ago and gets worse then very few people can't afford to go to a game whether the team is winning or not. but you got Hollywood out there in Los Angeles and they can go crazy money over the tax thing and other teams. their whole salaries less than what they pay overage on the tax. players don't you realize when you make $100 million contract people have to pay for that with extraordinarily amounts of money. I don't know how the fan base hasn't just run from the ballparks because the players are really taken advantage of customers that pay them, especially Bryce Harper. this guy it's incredibly bad his attitude. then you've got probably most of the league would play for 20% as much money because that's more the money than they're probably going to make anywhere else and to get to play a game. there has to be some limits and this thing about wanting to change how long you are protected on the team that drafts you just 6 years. they want to change that to 3 years then nobody would be able to compete with the dodgers except three or four teams that needs to be extended to 8 years. we need to make it a feasible product for all to enjoy even the owners and it not be a money grab. you young people just don't understand this because you don't know when I went to ball games under 20 years old box seat was $4.50. this needs to be strongly discussed on the MLB channel and on all sports channels. not wow. look at that $700 million contract for 10 years. this kind of stuff has to stop and at 74 I'll never see another game but I have a big 70 in television and I can't see them all because they are still blacked out two teams and I'm a minimum of 5 hours to get to a ball game yet I'm blacked out in Baltimore and Washington. to slap the face of the fan like that for years now is despicable. instead of this walkout that's going to happen. why don't it be the fan walkout come September when all the races are going on. everybody walk out of the stadium. go ahead and go to the game in the first inning everybody leaves and nobody comes back until a proper contract is ratified.

[bean5302]

9 hours ago, Peter Gravett said:

He is the one starter that would benefit from a piggyback arrangement IMO. 

Then he's not a starter.

[bean5302]

On 2/14/2026 at 11:26 AM, killercarewoliva said:

... very few people can't afford to go to a game whether the team is winning or not...

You can get entrance to a full season ticket package of Twins pass for $3 game right now. 

You can bring your own food into the stadium.

You can bring empty water bottles into the game and fill them up for free.

You can attend on the $1 hot dog nights.

You can get a $5 Bud Light any game from a couple different sections.

You can get $3 beers on Fridays and Saturdays before the game.

Signing up for My Twins gets you $2 beers before every home game. 

You can park for free within 15 minutes and take a $2.50 bus ride to get to and from the game.

Attending Twins games is super cheap if you actually want to go rather than complain about how expensive it is.

[bean5302]

8 hours ago, killercarewoliva said:

swr was the best pitcher we had in September. he came in with a new pitch and he just did absolutely phenomenal did no one notice that? he had some injury time and he probably tried to pitch through it. a little lowering his era but this guy is top notch. as far as the fifth starter, I'm thinking they're going to pick Bradley. who has it been all that good but at the end of September he also was fantastic. Abel did as good as you can do against his old team. if that's how he's going to pitch in the future then have at it make him number five but he has no history of greatness like he did that game and neither does Bradley but Richardson has some great games. I'm thinking I'm going to want to try to be in front of the TV every time he gets on the mound. I find it to be an enormously entertaining and wonderful time, but most of you call me crazy. okay that's fine. since I live so far from Minnesota I look at the ticket prices except for this new $3 game thing and other stadiums being like this. also, everybody should boycott do not go my God $300 $900 to watch one baseball game anywhere is crazy.

 

Dylan Bundy owned a 2.95 ERA in April for the Twins.

[jdr]

I really like reading comments pros and cons about SWR. But the cons kill me. Look at the number of games per season he was pulled 65 pitches or less with 4 2/3 with two outs and the lead? The number is 9. 9 games a season for 3 years. Those 27 wins were handed to someone else.  For, a not flashy pitcher who pulls 97, 96, 95 at will when needed.  That`s not luck. Yes, he had a stomach bug. I`ll take that any day over constant injuries. You got to ask yourself the real reason you don`t like him.  But the same criticism is never mentioned on those injured jokes. 

[Twins33]

He always ends up doing better than I expect him to so yes

[jorgenswest]

Here how Woods Richardson ranks compared to the group of 150 pitchers with the most innings as a starter in the last two seasons (over 141 innings needed)

• 3.1 fWAR (75th)
• 4.1 brWAR 
• 4.08 ERA (82nd)
• 4.27 FIP (90th)
• 4.69 xFIP (122nd)
• 3.83 xERA (49th)

Last year there were only two pitchers younger than him that threw more innings in Paul Skenes and Cade Horton. 

A skeptic is going to see the xFIP and an optimist is going to see the xERA. Proponents of xFIP might say that it is a better predictor for future ERA due to using the league average HR rate (an individual HR rate is very random in small samples). Proponents of xERA might say that it is better because it uses the quality of contact for which the pitcher has more rather than the outcome. I think you look at it all. It sure looks like Woods Richardson’s performance over the last two years is close to the middle of his 150 peers. That performance comes as one of the youngest pitchers in the group. Is that something that is helpful in the 4th or 5th starter role?

 

[bean5302]

On 2/14/2026 at 10:57 PM, jdr said:

I really like reading comments pros and cons about SWR. But the cons kill me. Look at the number of games per season he was pulled 65 pitches or less with 4 2/3 with two outs and the lead? The number is 9. 9 games a season for 3 years. Those 27 wins were handed to someone else.  For, a not flashy pitcher who pulls 97, 96, 95 at will when needed.  That`s not luck. Yes, he had a stomach bug. I`ll take that any day over constant injuries. You got to ask yourself the real reason you don`t like him.  But the same criticism is never mentioned on those injured jokes. 

SWR pulls 97 at will? His average fastball is 93mph. Of 225 fastballs he threw last year, his fastest recorded pitch was 96.5mph, and he only threw 1 at that velo. Less than 5% of his fastballs would "round up" to 96mph or higher. Only 4 fastballs in August or September even rounded to 95 mph.

Beyond that, SWR got pulled early because he loses his form/mechanics and sees his velocity drop after about 60 pitches, with a consistent drop by 80 pitches. SWR at 94 is effective. SWR at 91 gets destroyed.

[killercarewoliva]

On 2/14/2026 at 8:50 PM, bean5302 said:

Dylan Bundy owned a 2.95 ERA in April for the Twins.

The thing with SWR is he'll have a few bad games. yes, but then he has these incredibly fantastic outings and they pull him after four innings. looking at September he was the best starting pitcher. the Minnesota twins had. Joe Ryan who had an incredible run average. his arm got tired so is Iran. run average went way up but it was still 3.42. overall, Richardson did not get tired in September. he got better so I look forward to a great season with him this year

[killercarewoliva]

On 2/14/2026 at 8:48 PM, bean5302 said:

You can get entrance to a full season ticket package of Twins pass for $3 game right now. 

You can bring your own food into the stadium.

You can bring empty water bottles into the game and fill them up for free.

You can attend on the $1 hot dog nights.

You can get a $5 Bud Light any game from a couple different sections.

You can get $3 beers on Fridays and Saturdays before the game.

Signing up for My Twins gets you $2 beers before every home game. 

You can park for free within 15 minutes and take a $2.50 bus ride to get to and from the game.

Attending Twins games is super cheap if you actually want to go rather than complain about how expensive it is.

those things are nice and I think I mentioned the $3 game thing but most of the tickets are exorbitant. I mean I looked to see what the prices were just to check up on today's pricing and it's crazy money. there's a lot of seats well over $300. there are seats for $900. there are seats for over. I thought I saw a couple thousand dollar seats but that's in a box with other people. I'm 74 years old sir. I don't expect things to be like when I was 17 but box seat in Washington DC was $4.50. also Baltimore Maryland was $4.50 and in 1991 the price had increased to $12.75. keeping in mind this is the best seat in the house. then 22 years later when the Orioles open the new stadium The price was $15 each year it would go up $5 and the orio's one of the cheapest places to go. let me go the other route. what do you think would be a fair price to sit behind home plate for one game? giving cheap seats is not in that many places that's to get people in the stadium because of the screw-ups that the ownership has done over the years especially the last 2 or 3 years. they still have the best seats at the higher prices. what's the fair price behind home plate? keep in mind that what I just illustrated also includes the rate of inflation and the percentage of increase doesn't keep up with inflation does it? it's like a thousand times more than regular inflation pricing. do you have an issue with a person going out and playing a baseball game and getting half a million dollars to play one ball game? I mean if people are stupid enough to pay that fine right? I know Tori Hunter used to give money for tickets for inner City children because they're not going to get to go otherwise. because baseball has the most games, the most, any ticket should be the best seat in the house. in my opinion, it's right to the right hand side of the umpire behind the plate. $50 football on the 50-yard line down low since there's only 10 games at home. I'd say $300. but I think that's suite now that I recall is $5,000 for one game in Minneapolis. I don't know how many people that is. I was in Denver, Colorado about 20 years ago. well, whenever the stadium open soon after they had waiter service behind home plate and the ticket was $125 national basketball association behind the players. I think that's around $2,000 for one game. I don't care what anybody says. sports cost are insanity and what the players make is insanity and they would have no problem playing for 10% of what they make when they are the type paid players which is 30 million and up for one season. I don't respect that and I don't respect how baseball is run financially with no salary cap and the players will fight for that salary cap, especially Bryce Harper and the right to to make even more than $30 million. they will strike for an entire season and lose $30 million. so maybe pricing can get where people can come. they don't have a lot of money. Calvin Griffith had to give it up because he funded the baseball with just his business. he didn't have a second high-powered business to fall back on.

[bean5302]

1 hour ago, killercarewoliva said:

those things are nice and I think I mentioned the $3 game thing but most of the tickets are exorbitant. I mean I looked to see what the prices were just to check up on today's pricing and it's crazy money. there's a lot of seats well over $300. there are seats for $900. there are seats for over. I thought I saw a couple thousand dollar seats but that's in a box with other people. I'm 74 years old sir. I don't expect things to be like when I was 17 but box seat in Washington DC was $4.50. also Baltimore Maryland was $4.50 and in 1991 the price had increased to $12.75. keeping in mind this is the best seat in the house. then 22 years later when the Orioles open the new stadium The price was $15 each year it would go up $5 and the orio's one of the cheapest places to go. let me go the other route. what do you think would be a fair price to sit behind home plate for one game? giving cheap seats is not in that many places that's to get people in the stadium because of the screw-ups that the ownership has done over the years especially the last 2 or 3 years. they still have the best seats at the higher prices. what's the fair price behind home plate? keep in mind that what I just illustrated also includes the rate of inflation and the percentage of increase doesn't keep up with inflation does it? it's like a thousand times more than regular inflation pricing. do you have an issue with a person going out and playing a baseball game and getting half a million dollars to play one ball game? I mean if people are stupid enough to pay that fine right? I know Tori Hunter used to give money for tickets for inner City children because they're not going to get to go otherwise. because baseball has the most games, the most, any ticket should be the best seat in the house. in my opinion, it's right to the right hand side of the umpire behind the plate. $50 football on the 50-yard line down low since there's only 10 games at home. I'd say $300. but I think that's suite now that I recall is $5,000 for one game in Minneapolis. I don't know how many people that is. I was in Denver, Colorado about 20 years ago. well, whenever the stadium open soon after they had waiter service behind home plate and the ticket was $125 national basketball association behind the players. I think that's around $2,000 for one game. I don't care what anybody says. sports cost are insanity and what the players make is insanity and they would have no problem playing for 10% of what they make when they are the type paid players which is 30 million and up for one season. I don't respect that and I don't respect how baseball is run financially with no salary cap and the players will fight for that salary cap, especially Bryce Harper and the right to to make even more than $30 million. they will strike for an entire season and lose $30 million. so maybe pricing can get where people can come. they don't have a lot of money. Calvin Griffith had to give it up because he funded the baseball with just his business. he didn't have a second high-powered business to fall back on.

Wrong time of year to be looking up prices if you're talking about the resale market? Best deal in the stadium is left field bleachers. 20 game package is $600 / seat ($30/game) for 20 games all-in. Lower level, GOOD view of the game, close to bathrooms, and some good concession options, sun coverage, weather coverage. I think 15% discount on all concessions/merch. Season ticket holder perks like a couple free caps, special events, etc.

As a 74yr old, the bleachers might not be a good option for comfort. They're very cold in cold weather and not too nice on the backside. For lower prices with more comfort, you'd be limited to upper deck, and I'd strongly recommend 300s. I think 200s are the worst deal in the game. Field Box might be your best bet for a better game view starting at $720/seat ($36/game)

[killercarewoliva]

2 hours ago, bean5302 said:

Wrong time of year to be looking up prices if you're talking about the resale market? Best deal in the stadium is left field bleachers. 20 game package is $600 / seat ($30/game) for 20 games all-in. Lower level, GOOD view of the game, close to bathrooms, and some good concession options, sun coverage, weather coverage. I think 15% discount on all concessions/merch. Season ticket holder perks like a couple free caps, special events, etc.

As a 74yr old, the bleachers might not be a good option for comfort. They're very cold in cold weather and not too nice on the backside. For lower prices with more comfort, you'd be limited to upper deck, and I'd strongly recommend 300s. I think 200s are the worst deal in the game. Field Box might be your best bet for a better game view starting at $720/seat ($36/game)

I thank you for your help but my point just isn't working. maybe it's not working with anybody else either who may have read what I've said. you see I was mentioning Washington and Baltimore. I've been a Minnesota twins fan since 1965. I've only been there once and that was for four games in 1992 so I've never seen the new beautiful stadium in person and never will. I boycott the stadiums all over the country. I won't go to a ball game because of the prices as a whole as a group. I live in the state of Virginia.

[bean5302]

17 hours ago, killercarewoliva said:

I thank you for your help but my point just isn't working. maybe it's not working with anybody else either who may have read what I've said. you see I was mentioning Washington and Baltimore. I've been a Minnesota twins fan since 1965. I've only been there once and that was for four games in 1992 so I've never seen the new beautiful stadium in person and never will. I boycott the stadiums all over the country. I won't go to a ball game because of the prices as a whole as a group. I live in the state of Virginia.

Camden is great. Been there for a Twins at Orioles game in 2011-ish, I think.

Aside from that, I feel like you're being unreasonable in your expectations based on the cost of everything I've seen.

$1 in 1965 = $10.33 today. So going to a game today in left field bleachers is the same as paying $4 for a lower level seat, a beer and a hot dog in 1965. Not sure if that's a lot?

[killercarewoliva]

6 hours ago, bean5302 said:

Camden is great. Been there for a Twins at Orioles game in 2011-ish, I think.

Aside from that, I feel like you're being unreasonable in your expectations based on the cost of everything I've seen.

$1 in 1965 = $10.33 today. So going to a game today in left field bleachers is the same as paying $4 for a lower level seat, a beer and a hot dog in 1965. Not sure if that's a lot?

your first sentence is what I'm talking about. $1 equals $10 today well at $4.50. that's about $45 today. where you going to see that? $45 you're not most box seats around the major leagues I'm guessing is $300 or more. here's what happened. 1976. Andy mesersmith and Kurt flood challenged the reserve clause and they want so a player can't be tied to the same baseball team and some people thought baseball would fail with it becoming a money grab. the players are MoneyGrab people and when the horrible man George stanburner gave Jim catfish Hunter from the Oakland A's $350,000 for one season. of course he took it and that was just the beginning of higher prices that have nothing to do with inflation. by the way, I'm a twins fan because of Harmon killebrew and Tony oliva and rod Carew. these are quality people on and off the field. about 10 years ago. the White Sox commentator Ken harrelson, former second baseman, said the twins are the most respected organization in baseball for the past 50 years. so I've stuck with it but I realize it's a business. I no longer wear if I went to a game. anything identifying the team I like because with the exception of say Byron Buxton everybody's going to play where they get the most money they have no allegiance. this is not high school or college but you know all that stuff. thank you for your message