ALDS Game 4: Astros (Urquidy) vs Twins (Ryan): 10/11/23, 6:07pm

[insagt1]

6 minutes ago, davidborton said:

14/29 AB end in Ks. 73 in post season.

Bad ball. No other way to describe it.

average just over 12 per game. Thats criminal.

[notoriousgod71]

I know he had an overall good game but the game seemed to immediately turn when Julien somehow didn't get a triple and then was immediately doubled off.

[Rod Carews Birthday]

Thank you Minnesota Twins for a fun year of baseball!  We ended the streak and won a series. The last game is a victory for only one team.  Let’s make that next year’s goal!  Go Twins!  

[Vanimal46]

4 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

I think that’s now 64 seasons between the twins and Vikings without a championship. I don’t care about the wolves or wild. Vikings will make it 65 real soon

32 years. There are people paying mortgages and experiencing mid life crises without knowing what a championship feels like. 

[IndyTwinsFan]

4 minutes ago, insagt1 said:

So fitting that all 3 Twins strike out in the 9th. And 3 ball counts on all of them. Only Buck put the ball in play (barely) over the last 6 outs. 5 k's and and another 14 k night for the overmatched Twins hitters. The stage was too big for them. Just about all of them couldn't put the bat on the ball.

A tough game to lose because after Abreu's HR in the 4th, Twins pitchers totally shut Astros down. Unfortunately after Julien's HR, nobody reached base for the Twins and most of them were busy swinging at air or watching.

Houston knows how to win. Be it blowout or close one, they've been there. Pressure? None for them. Plenty for the Twins who over the last 18 innings were schooled, and sent home.

right now, nothing makes me feel good about much. Props to the bullpen, but one huge turd sandwich to the hitters. I can still feel the breeze all the way over here in Rochester.

Well put!

[Aggies7]

Just now, Vanimal46 said:

32 years. There are people paying mortgages and experiencing mid life crises without knowing what a championship feels like. 

Yeah, me. I’m people.

[LewFordLives]

Is it just me, or does it seem like every time there's a big crowd at Target Field the Twins just don't show up 

[Aggies7]

All the rah rah stuff doesn’t resonate too much with me when the 84 win diamondbacks are about to go to their 3rd NLCS in their 26th season. We’ve been to one in that time frame. Would anyone say they’re a better team overall than milwaukee? The dodgers?

[Hashim]

4 minutes ago, insagt1 said:

So fitting that all 3 Twins strike out in the 9th. And 3 ball counts on all of them. Only Buck put the ball in play (barely) over the last 6 outs. 5 k's and and another 14 k night for the overmatched Twins hitters. The stage was too big for them. Just about all of them couldn't put the bat on the ball.

A tough game to lose because after Abreu's HR in the 4th, Twins pitchers totally shut Astros down. Unfortunately after Julien's HR, nobody reached base for the Twins and most of them were busy swinging at air or watching.

Houston knows how to win. Be it blowout or close one, they've been there. Pressure? None for them. Plenty for the Twins who over the last 18 innings were schooled, and sent home.

right now, nothing makes me feel good about much. Props to the bullpen, but one huge turd sandwich to the hitters. I can still feel the breeze all the way over here in Rochester.

They reverted back to their horrible strikeout type. We need better veteran hitters, who have playoff experience next year. Get rid of Kepler, Solano, etc. 

[Vanimal46]

2 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Yeah, me. I’m people.

Nice to meet you. Wish I had core memories of celebrating a WS title when I was 1 year old. 

[insagt1]

the savvy pitchers paint the edges and get the calls when they know hitters are looking for walks and are swinging and missing. Pressly was very good at hitting just enough corner to get the calls and Twins hitters looked helpless and hopeless to do anything about it. No fight in the final 2 innings. Expected more.

[Aggies7]

Just now, Vanimal46 said:

Nice to meet you. Wish I had core memories of celebrating a WS title when I was 1 year old. 

I was 4, so same boat.

[sftwinsfan]

Couple things they need to look at in the offseason. One, is find a new hitting coach and change their approach. This was the way it went far too often this year. I don't want to see these young guys take on the Buxton/Gallo type approach. Two is to realistically judge if Buxton can play (in CF) next year. If not, they need more production in the outfield. Three would be take into account postseason performance (to an extent) with who they're bringing back. Some guys don't like the spotlight and can't get out of their own heads. The younger guys I'm a little more forgiving, especially if AK was actually playing hurt (why was he paying if he could barely swing seems to be a legitimate question). The way Jeffers played, he's obviously coming back, but I'm not exactly lining up to offer him a multi-year deal. Kepler, probably moving on. Not just a reaction from the last at-bat but was pretty cold in the series and just kind of reverted back to an indifferent type of attitude at the plate. Too hot/cold to count on. End rant, lol.

[Longdistancetwins]

4 minutes ago, Winston Smith said:

Gameday had it a strike.

So did Provus and Gladden.  

[one_eyed_jack]

Sigh.  Feels like so many of the postseason losses to the Yankees. A good team coming up short against a powerhouse.  Only behind by a run or two, but it felt insurmountable.  One big hit was all the Twins needed, but you knew it wasn’t coming.  

 

There will be the condescending pats on the head with talk of how hard the Twins fought and what a bright future lies ahead of them. 
 

I had more than enough of being the Little Team that Could during the Gardenhire years. I want a deep playoff run.  Hopefully this was a step to something better  

 

 

 

[insagt1]

2 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

I was 4, so same boat.

For perspective I was a teenager when the original Washington Senators relocated to Minnesota! And just a bit younger when we got the startling news that 2 NY teams were moving to California. How could that possibly be, we said.

[wabene]

1 minute ago, one_eyed_jack said:

Hopefully this was a step to something better  

That's where I'm at. Progress was made, but it's well past time for more. 

[Vanimal46]

9 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

All the rah rah stuff doesn’t resonate too much with me when the 84 win diamondbacks are about to go to their 3rd NLCS in their 26th season. We’ve been to one in that time frame 

That hurts. It also hurts that there will be no changes because the other AL Central teams gave up, and we broke the streak. 

[Sutter50]

Gotta start somewhere. Lots of positives this year. The playoff losing streak ended, a road playoff win, a series win also. It's a good base to start from. Things are building here and I fully expect long sustained run of playoff caliber teams

[Aggies7]

2 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

That hurts. It also hurts that there will be no changes because the other AL Central teams gave up, and we broke the streak. 

There must be changes. The fact is that we don’t have enough trust in anyone to start a third playoff game. You could almost skate by with that in a 5 game series but imagine a 7 gamer when we didn’t even have enough faith for Joe Ryan to get 9 outs today 

[Vanimal46]

4 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

There must be changes. The fact is that we don’t have enough trust in anyone to start a third playoff game. You could almost skate by with that in a 5 game series but imagine a 7 gamer when we didn’t even have enough faith for Joe Ryan to get 9 outs today 

Dreamer. I bet the trio Falvey, Levine, and Rocco get an A++ rating from the Pohlad family this season. 

[one_eyed_jack]

25 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

 I don’t care about the wolves or wild. 

I would highly recommend caring about the Wolves.  Anthony Edwards will make it worth it.  

[Woof Bronzer]

We made the playoffs, and in those playoffs we had ourselves a moment or two.  That's something.  Thanks everyone for the spirited discussions this year, what a solid community.

[nicksaviking]

2 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

There must be changes. The fact is that we don’t have enough trust in anyone to start a third playoff game. You could almost skate by with that in a 5 game series but imagine a 7 gamer when we didn’t even have enough faith for Joe Ryan to get 9 outs today 

Toronto spent twice as much as the Twins on starting pitching and didn't have enough faith in even a 2nd starter. 

It's the current game itself, not the Twins. Outside of yesterday, the pitching was way more than acceptable for playoff baseball.

This is entirely on the inability to put the ball in play. Not sure how much of that is the hitters and how much of that is the strategy, but that's what has to change. 

And honestly, when the Twins did put the ball in play, they squared up balls that found defenders when the Astros found holes. Luck, karma or more likely, defensive prerogative, that's something that needs to change too.

The rotation is good if it replaces Sonny Gray with an equal caliber pitcher.

[Aggies7]

1 minute ago, one_eyed_jack said:

I would highly recommend caring about the Wolves.  Anthony Edwards will make it worth it.  

I followed them when I was younger but lost interest in basketball in general. If either the wolves or wild won a title it wouldn’t mean a whole lot to me at all 

[LewFordLives]

5 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

There must be changes. The fact is that we don’t have enough trust in anyone to start a third playoff game. 

Agreed, but that's going to be the challenge. They need to resign/replace Sonny Gray, and I don't know how how that's gonna happen. Not many options out there and maybe not as much payroll room as people think.

[Aggies7]

3 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Toronto spent twice as much as the Twins on starting pitching and didn't have enough faith in even a 2nd starter. 

It's the current game itself, not the Twins. Outside of yesterday, the pitching was way more than acceptable for playoff baseball.

This is entirely on the inability to put the ball in play. Not sure how much of that is the hitters and how much of that is the strategy, but that's what has to change. 

And honestly, when the Twins did put the ball in play, they squared up balls that found defenders when the Astros found holes. Luck, karma or more likely, defensive prerogative, that's something that needs to change too.

The rotation is good if it replaces Sonny Gray with an equal caliber pitcher.

I mean, it wasn’t great Saturday either. Got us into a 5 run hole we didn’t climb out of

Berrios is a much better pitcher than Joe Ryan though. What the jays did was idiotic. My point was that there wasn’t much faith in either ober or Ryan (and maeda for that matter) to let them start a playoff game without a minuscule leash. 

[USAFChief]

23 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

Nice to meet you. Wish I had core memories of celebrating a WS title when I was 1 year old. 

How about when you were a mid-career USAF veteran?

[one_eyed_jack]

On the final pitch:

1. It was a strike  Be honest, Duran throws that pitch in that situation and doesn’t get the call, you’re demanding the ump’s head on a platter

2. I can see why Max thought it wasn’t given how he was rung up on a pitch inside in his previous AB  

3. But with the season on the line, you can’t stand there with the bat on your shoulder and hope for the benefit of the doubt on a close pitch.  Protect the plate for God’s sake  

 

 

 

 

[USAFChief]

36 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

Hey your team just hit four home runs in the same inning, the first team ever to do so in MLB history. You have to be pumped about that.

My team?

You're confused.

My team is done for the season.