ALDS Game 4: Astros (Urquidy) vs Twins (Ryan): 10/11/23, 6:07pm

[knothole61]

19 minutes ago, insagt1 said:

For perspective I was a teenager when the original Washington Senators relocated to Minnesota! And just a bit younger when we got the startling news that 2 NY teams were moving to California. How could that possibly be, we said.

insagt1 I go back to the '61 season as well but it sounds like you may have a few years on me. In all the years I've never seen such a propensity to strike out--and that horrible flailing away at off speed stuff, especially down and away. has been maddening to watch.    Still, it was a successful season and we have only about 123 days until it all starts up again.

25 minutes ago, insagt1 said:

the savvy pitchers paint the edges and get the calls when they know hitters are looking for walks and are swinging and missing. Pressly was very good at hitting just enough corner to get the calls and Twins hitters looked helpless and hopeless to do anything about it. No fight in the final 2 innings. Expected more.

 

[wabene]

14 minutes ago, one_eyed_jack said:

On the final pitch:

1. It was a strike  Be honest, Duran throws that pitch in that situation and doesn’t get the call, you’re demanding the ump’s head on a platter

2. I can see why Max thought it wasn’t given how he was rung up on a pitch inside in his previous AB  

3. But with the season on the line, you can’t stand there with the bat on your shoulder and hope for the benefit of the doubt on a close pitch.  Protect the plate for God’s sake  

 

 

 

 

I think there is some confusion here. I think his original reference was to the ball 4 that was 3 inches off the plate in the earlier plate appearance. I don't think anyone is questioning the last pitch, which was a strike and Max should've went for it. Not swinging was like leaving a birdy putt 3 feet short. 

[wabene]

22 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Berrios is a much better pitcher than Joe Ryan though

This year, not last year. Hopefully Ryan learned some lessons this year and can build on it. 

[stringer bell]

Probably needs to be a new thread about perspective for this year and what lies ahead in the next. I’ll say this—just too little contact, the strikeouts were too much to overcome too often. 
 

Caleb Thielbar wasn’t reliable in late September and October and the Twins went to that well too often. López. Paddack, Ryan, Ober, Varland is a nice rotation, but they probably need one or two more starters and I think Maeda is more likely to return than Gray. 

[Mortimerkenny21]