GAME THREAD: Texas Rangers at Minnesota Twins, 8/21/2022, 1:10 PM CDT

[rwilfong86]

Season is pretty much over. Losing games to weaker teams has doomed this team. Hopefully next season their key pieces can stay healthy. 

[mrtwinsfan]

1 minute ago, LVTwinsfan said:

The best way to give Pagan a message….make him finish this game 

Rocco bring a suitcase out to the mound with a Plane ticket, 

[Aggies7]

There’s simply no role where pagan excels.

[LVTwinsfan]

2 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

There’s simply no role where pagan excels.

He’s trying to pitch til the shadows completely cover the mound so his offense has an advantage 

[Tlaker]

Any booing in the ballpark?

Should be….

[Winston Smith]

4 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

There’s simply no role where pagan excels.

But but his K rate!

[BH67]

Many have complained here about Rocco Baldelli's timing and selection when it comes to the bullpen.  The offensive listlessness also falls on him.  There's no verve, momentum or passion, game after game.  Gaetti would rip these guys to shreds.

I've been a supervisor for many years, once over more than 30 people.  In my estimation, languorous team performance is correlated strongly with desultory leadership.  No matter the sabermetrics, an atmosphere of aimlessness will destroy any hope of success.  From my vantage point, Baldelli must go...soon.

[Twins_Fan_For_Life]

6 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

There’s simply no role where pagan excels.

Batting practice pitcher?

[USAFChief]

While I'm ****** off and in the mood for a good rant:

The arrogance with which this front office and this manager pretend stolen bases don't matter really irritates me. 

We don't ever run, and we act like it doesn't matter anyone who wants to can run at will on us.

We don't teach ask our pitchers to hold runners. We don't pitch out. Our weak armed catchers have one knee on the ground in SB situations because pitch framing.

It'll get ignored because of the pen and the offense, but that entire 7th inning debacle today was made infinitely worse because we can't or won't defend against SBs. And it happens regularly.

I'm tired of pretending analytics means you don't have to still play the game.

[Tlaker]

Just now, BH67 said:

Many have complained here about Rocco Baldelli's timing and selection when it comes to the bullpen.  The offensive listlessness also falls on him.  There's no verve, momentum or passion, game after game.  Gaetti would rip these guys to shreds.

I've been a supervisor for many years, once over more than 30 people.  In my estimation, languorous team performance is correlated strongly with desultory leadership.  No matter the sabermetrics, an atmosphere of aimlessness will destroy any hope of success.  From my vantage point, Baldelli must go...soon.

Amen

[LVTwinsfan]

Just now, BH67 said:

Many have complained here about Rocco Baldelli's timing and selection when it comes to the bullpen.  The offensive listlessness also falls on him.  There's no verve, momentum or passion, game after game.  Gaetti would rip these guys to shreds.

I've been a supervisor for many years, once over more than 30 people.  In my estimation, languorous team performance is correlated strongly with desultory leadership.  No matter the sabermetrics, an atmosphere of aimlessness will destroy any hope of success.  From my vantage point, Baldelli must go...soon.

Replace him with Les Steckel

[USAFChief]

8 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

There’s simply no role where pagan excels.

He'd have the third highest HR allowed rate at the AS Game HR Derby. He'd be good at that role. 

[Winston Smith]

2 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

While I'm ****** off and in the mood for a good rant:

The arrogance with which this front office and this manager pretend stolen bases don't matter really irritates me. 

We don't ever run, and we act like it doesn't matter anyone who wants to can run at will on us.

We don't teach ask our pitchers to hold runners. We don't pitch out. Our weak armed catchers have one knee on the ground in SB situations because pitch framing.

It'll get ignored because of the pen and the offense, but that entire 7th inning debacle today was made infinitely worse because we can't or won't defend against SBs. And it happens regularly.

I'm tired of pretending analytics means you don't have to still play the game.

But but how do you really feel about it?

[Tlaker]

1 minute ago, LVTwinsfan said:

Replace him with Les Steckel

Brad Childress?

[mrtwinsfan]

2 minutes ago, Tlaker said:

Amen

will 2nd that Amen

[Winston Smith]

What a lifeless team.....

[Danchat]

It feels like this game has been going forever, was there a delay or something? Seems like they’ve been in the 9th for 45 minutes.

[LVTwinsfan]

The Twins have zero runs, it doesn’t matter how good or bad the pitching is, you always lose with zero runs

[LVTwinsfan]

1 minute ago, Danchat said:

It feels like this game has been going forever, was there a delay or something? Seems like they’ve been in the 9th for 45 minutes.

Dan Gladden

[h2oface]

..... and it was only 1-0 with one out in the 7th......

[Aggies7]

4 minutes ago, LVTwinsfan said:

Replace him with Les Steckel

Literally saw some YouTube stuff last night from the 1984 NFL season. His biggest contribution was having the players wear white shoes and stand at attention during the anthem 

[USAFChief]

1 minute ago, Danchat said:

It feels like this game has been going forever, was there a delay or something? Seems like they’ve been in the 9th for 45 minutes.

Well it sure wasn't the bottom half of innings that slowed the pace.

[USAFChief]

We didn't even get a runner to 3rd, FFS.

[Aggies7]

7 minutes ago, BH67 said:

Many have complained here about Rocco Baldelli's timing and selection when it comes to the bullpen.  The offensive listlessness also falls on him.  There's no verve, momentum or passion, game after game.  Gaetti would rip these guys to shreds.

I've been a supervisor for many years, once over more than 30 people.  In my estimation, languorous team performance is correlated strongly with desultory leadership.  No matter the sabermetrics, an atmosphere of aimlessness will destroy any hope of success.  From my vantage point, Baldelli must go...soon.

I think baldelli gets another year. Rest of the coaching staff needs to be changed, but I highly doubt rocco will get canned after this year. Not that I believe he’s the guy we need, it’s just not likely 

[LVTwinsfan]

1 minute ago, h2oface said:

..... and it was only 1-0 with one out in the 7th......

So if the Twins would have scored a couple in the last three innings, that would mean something, all it means now is if the Twins had a good bullpen showing they would have lost 1-0

[Winston Smith]

2 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Well it sure wasn't the bottom half of innings that slowed the pace.

Now you're getting picky. 

[Mortimerkenny21]

First game in 3 year's, glad I went. Seriously nice park, fun to go but what a crappy lose.

[HokieRif]

Someone needs to be fired

[Tlaker]

2 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

I think baldelli gets another year. Rest of the coaching staff needs to be changed, but I highly doubt rocco will get canned after this year. Not that I believe he’s the guy we need, it’s just not likely 

Sadly, I think you are correct….just postponing the inevitable though ?

[srjr19]

10 minutes ago, BH67 said:

Many have complained here about Rocco Baldelli's timing and selection when it comes to the bullpen.  The offensive listlessness also falls on him.  There's no verve, momentum or passion, game after game.  Gaetti would rip these guys to shreds.

I've been a supervisor for many years, once over more than 30 people.  In my estimation, languorous team performance is correlated strongly with desultory leadership.  No matter the sabermetrics, an atmosphere of aimlessness will destroy any hope of success.  From my vantage point, Baldelli must go...soon.

Well said.  It's pretty glaring when you have Gladden asking Rocco to bring us world series win and the team responds with their flattest most lifeless effort of the year. (and that's saying a lot)  

BTW, a though Correa could hit.