amjgt Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Because we will never know the cost to acquire [beloved Player X] via trade, it is hard to say that I will be upset if the Twins do not make another acquisition. For every player that is reportedly available, there is a price that I would be unhappy if the Twins pay it--even with the benefit of adding that player to the 2019 roster (and presumably increasing the odds of playoffs/playoff wins). Because of that, I can't honestly feel more than general disappointment that something didn't work out. I'd need information that I will never have to feel anger or betrayed. Generally, I agree with you, but the existence of Ian Kennedy and his contract makes us relatively sure that if the Twins were willing to pony up money (and almost nothing in terms of prospects), they could make a significant improvement to the bullpen. For most other guys, I agree with you. You never know what other teams are asking for. Oldgoat_MN 1
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Less than 3 hours left. Good thing I have the afternoon off from work.Better call in to work after 3 PM, to see if you've been traded! FlauerPauer and Vanimal46 2
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Because we will never know the cost to acquire [beloved Player X] via trade, it is hard to say that I will be upset if the Twins do not make another acquisition. For every player that is reportedly available, there is a price that I would be unhappy if the Twins pay it--even with the benefit of adding that player to the 2019 roster (and presumably increasing the odds of playoffs/playoff wins). Because of that, I can't honestly feel more than general disappointment that something didn't work out. I'd need information that I will never have to feel anger or betrayed. That's fair, although anticipating high prices is also part of a GM's job. That should have been a factor when selling Pressly a year ago, and making Blake Parker our only offseason pen acquisition.
JadenPoint Provisional Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Why does everyone assume this team will be good for the next several years? It's much more likely they will regress, especially given the career years a lot Twins players are having.(ex 2017 Vikings) Winning is nice, but winning it all should be the goal here. Both the '87 & '91 teams came out of nowhere to win the WS. FlauerPauer, notoriousgod71 and Highabove 3
SpicyGarvSauce Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Why does everyone assume this team will be good for the next several years? It's much more likely they will regress, especially given the career years a lot Twins players are having.(ex 2017 Vikings) Winning is nice, but winning it all should be the goal here. Both the '87 & '91 teams came out of nowhere to win the WS. Exactly. Baseball is a funny game.
beckmt Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 I am in agreement that doing nothing is not an option. Let's get it done. Oldgoat_MN 1
FlauerPauer Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Why does everyone assume this team will be good for the next several years? It's much more likely they will regress, especially given the career years a lot Twins players are having.(ex 2017 Vikings) Winning is nice, but winning it all should be the goal here. Both the '87 & '91 teams came out of nowhere to win the WS. Yes and with the little pitching we have signed for next year, this may very well be the best opportunity to make a deep run in the playoffs. I have no confidence that the offense will be as potent as it is this year. If we, who lack the expertise in baseball knowledge to run a front office, know that the bullpen is doomed in the playoffs, then the guys running the show have to know that they need help in the bullpen. Or if they value the prospects that highly, then they better turn out to be some pretty damn good players. Go for the gold, Twins! Make a big splash!
FormerMinnasotan Provisional Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Why does everyone assume this team will be good for the next several years? It's much more likely they will regress, especially given the career years a lot Twins players are having.(ex 2017 Vikings) Winning is nice, but winning it all should be the goal here. Both the '87 & '91 teams came out of nowhere to win the WS.And then once we regress when will the “window” be open for us to compete for a World Series? Will the FO even then be willing to make the call to “go for it”? This year is one of those years, so why cower and not make a big splash? FlauerPauer and jud6312 2
Dman Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Wow we are getting down to crunch time and still not much happening out there.
Obsvr Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 No I wouldn't fire them before the season is over, but if they somehow miss the playoffs or don't win the division because the relief core is not adequate and that is an obvious reason for not winning the division.Then they are gone!
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Wow we are getting down to crunch time and still not much happening out there. What, Martin Maldonado and Jesus Aguilar don't do much for you? Vanimal46 1
rebldomakr Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 This team has MAX a 2-3 year window to win a World Series if there lucky please don’t blow it Falvey and Levine... it’s sad when fans want to win more than the front office of the team does...
FormerMinnasotan Provisional Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) So what’s the strategy for getting better starting pitching? Expecting Graterol, Balazovic, or Duran to pan out as an ace? If that’s the strategy then the Twins FO are a bunch of fools because there’s absolutely no guarantee any of the 3 mentioned pitchers will attain top rotation status. It’s more likely all 3 flop or like Gibson fall short of their potential. So what that means is the rotation for years could very well be Berríos and 4 #5 starters. That will not work to win a World Series. Edited July 31, 2019 by FormerMinnasotan bighat 1
howeda7 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) Because 1.) We're Twins fans, and 2.) they're fun to watch and follow.At a certain point, if they're never ever going to even try to win it all, what's the point? This is 2006 all over again, and our next shot might be in 2032. And if this goes as expected and Favley is still around, he'll cling to his prospects and dream of 2035. Edited July 31, 2019 by howeda7 notoriousgod71, Oldgoat_MN and bighat 3
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 We have SO MUCH Cash considerations to give!!! amjgt, In My La Z boy, Dman and 1 other 4
amjgt Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 This team has MAX a 2-3 year window to win a World Series if there lucky please don’t blow it Falvey and Levine... it’s sad when fans want to win more than the front office of the team does...What is it about year 4 that makes you say that? Almost all of our top 10 prospects are at AA or higher. With a reasonable hit rate and the remaining players from our current roster, the window should be longer than 3 years. Not that I think that should preclude us from acting aggressively now, I’m just curious why you think the window is that short. Mike Frasier Law 1
howeda7 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 What is it about year 4 that makes you say that? Almost all of our top 10 prospects are at AA or higher. With a reasonable hit rate and the remaining players from our current roster, the window should be longer than 3 years. Not that I think that should preclude us from acting aggressively now, I’m just curious why you think the window is that short.Because that's just usually how it works out. Cleveland isn't going anywhere and Chicago might be very good in 2 years.
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Chances are pretty good the Sun will still rise tomorrow.
bighat Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Take a look at the standings. They are competing now! Go out to a game and have some fun! No kidding. We'll have plenty of time to think about 2020....in 2020! The time is NOW, the year is THIS ONE! Let's grab another arm, boys! jud6312 1
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 https://twitter.com/independentmlb/status/1156621879408570373 In My La Z boy, nicksaviking and bighat 3
bighat Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Washington Nationals have snagged Daniel Hudson. Word is that the Nats are not done and also seeking Elias from the M's as well.
howeda7 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Daniel Hudson off the board to the Nats. bighat 1
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 https://twitter.com/independentmlb/status/1156621879408570373Fine by me. Get it done Falvine! In My La Z boy and PseudoSABR 2
jud6312 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 We have SO MUCH Cash considerations to give!!! Stop trying to trade off the office Christmas party fund. Vanimal46 1
FormerMinnasotan Provisional Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 https://twitter.com/independentmlb/status/1156621879408570373Sounds good to me. Better than trading for Lance Lynn. nicksaviking and PseudoSABR 2
FlauerPauer Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Kinda sad that they didn't even make a move for Daniel Hudson! Nats give up a nobody for him.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 https://twitter.com/independentmlb/status/1156621879408570373I likey nicksaviking and PseudoSABR 2
SomeGuy Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 This team has MAX a 2-3 year window to win a World Series if there lucky please don’t blow it Falvey and Levine... it’s sad when fans want to win more than the front office of the team does...What makes you think the window closes so soon?
Doomtints Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Being afraid to make a mistake or being afraid to spend $1 more than the bare minimum required kinda sucks.
HawksNest Verified Member Posted July 31, 2019 Posted July 31, 2019 Hudson, now Elias both to Nationals per Rosenthal
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