Buxton Has Gained 21 Pounds of Muscle this Offseason

[Kelly Vance]

 

Buxton's migraines started after his wall collision in 2014.

That people on this board do not get the concepts of brain injuries does not surprise me. I have yet to see a picture of Buxton hitting a wall where you could say the head did not touch the wall..

I don't think you get to say what "people on this board" get or do not get. That 

 

Migraines have nothing to do with hitting the wall while making a catch. You can get a headache from a bump, sure, but not a migraine headache....migraines are a different type of problem. Kareem Jabbar got them and he never hit a wall ever. Its complicated and neurological. But lets try to stick to the subject, which is Buck

[Monkeypaws]

 

Buxton's migraines started after his wall collision in 2014.

That people on this board do not get the concepts of brain injuries does not surprise me. I have yet to see a picture of Buxton hitting a wall where you could say the head did not touch the wall..

 

Said the old nurse.

 

If there is an MLB team that has paid cash on concussions, it is the Twins: Koskie, Morneau, Mauer, perhaps Garver.

[Mr. Brooks]

I don't think you get to say what "people on this board" get or do not get. That

 

Migraines have nothing to do with hitting the wall while making a catch. You can get a headache from a bump, sure, but not a migraine headache....migraines are a different type of problem. Kareem Jabbar got them and he never hit a wall ever. Its complicated and neurological. But lets try to stick to the subject, which is Buck

Concussions absolutely can cause migraines. I don't think anyone ever said, or would say, that it's the only cause of them, so I'm not sure I understand the point of the Kareem reference.

[Kelly Vance]

 

Concussions absolutely can cause migraines. I don't think anyone ever said, or would say, that it's the only cause of them, so I'm not sure I understand the point of the Kareem reference.

Nobody ever said anything about concussions. It wasn't even part of the article or the posts that followed. Until the poster changed the subject.  Nobody ever even mentioned Buck was concussed from making a catch against an outfield wall.The point of my Kareem reference was he had migraines without any sort of bump to the head. Why can't some people just concede the point instead of going off on a tangent thinking they gotta win an argument?  

[old nurse]

 

I don't think you get to say what "people on this board" get or do not get. That 

 

Migraines have nothing to do with hitting the wall while making a catch. You can get a headache from a bump, sure, but not a migraine headache....migraines are a different type of problem. Kareem Jabbar got them and he never hit a wall ever. Its complicated and neurological. But lets try to stick to the subject, which is Buck

I get that people on this board do not understand migraine or TBI.  I do not get that you can not tell people things they do not want to understand. The OP said this "Buxton says he's done so to provide more padding for every time he runs into a wall at full speed or dives for a sinking liner up the middle."  With that being said the futility of that statement is part of the discussion.

[Physics Guy]

Except for Wrigley,  ball parks have padding on the walls hence elastic. Barely elastic, but elastic. All the muscle in the world is still not going to change the fact that the head is going maybe 20 mph in one direction then suddenly not. The other thing that does not change is muscle does not like to be hit either. The muscles do get damaged and need recovery, just look at football

You should really look up the definition of elastic vs in elastic collisions.

[nicksaviking]

I was going to mention that, but I don't think the OP stated if it was live pitching.

Batting practice is useful, of course, but not really for identifying breaking balls.

Maybe not but I assumed pitching drills and machines improved since last I used one 25 years ago or so.

 

I just pray the Twins aren’t contractually obligated to use that thing Mauer used to hawk. Though it would explain a lot.

[Kelly Vance]

I hate pitching machines. They don't teach how to pick up the ball in the window (release point) and you can't get an athletic sense of timing from reading tehe pitchers motion.

 

Wonder if this machine made Joe a millionaire. I mean, it would be nice to know he didn't retire broke, right?

[Kelly Vance]

Getting back to Buck... hopefully

 

I read the article again. I am a little concerned that the extra strength training may make him double down about being a pull hitter.  Oh well. Maybe he will eventually be good at that. 

[Richie the Rally Goat]

You should really look up the definition of elastic vs in elastic collisions.

Except for Wrigley, ball parks have padding on the walls hence elastic. Barely elastic, but elastic. All the muscle in the world is still not going to change the fact that the head is going maybe 20 mph in one direction then suddenly not. The other thing that does not change is muscle does not like to be hit either. The muscles do get damaged and need recovery, just look at football

https://www.khanacademy.org/science/ap-physics-1/ap-linear-momentum/inelastic-collisions-and-2d-collisions-ap/v/elastic-and-inelastic-collisions

[sampleSizeOfOne]

Look who knows so much...

 

Turns out our collisions here are only mostly inelastic.

 

(Humperdink humperdink humperdink humperdink... is it a game thread yet?)

 

I hope we win.

[SwainZag]

A lot of negatively in this thread about a guy who is putting in a lot of work to improve himself in the off season.  More power to you Buck, great to see you putting in the work, now let's hope it pays off on the diamond.

[fengriver]

21 pounds in around 3 months will raise some interest. Ive been in S&C for decades and that is alot of muscle to add without some help. He could lose some speed but Ive seen players add weight and remind the same. Jerris McPhail with the Dolphins is one of them.

[Mr. Brooks]

21 pounds in around 3 months will raise some interest. Ive been in S&C for decades and that is alot of muscle to add without some help. He could lose some speed but Ive seen players add weight and remind the same. Jerris McPhail with the Dolphins is one of them.

If he's really spending 5 hours per day in the weight room, 21 pounds isn't suspicious in the least. He's a young guy. That's 550 hours of lifting.

[ewen21]

If he doesn't change his odd obsession with running into walls then all the potential is wasted.  I have very real concerns about his propensity for danger in the outfield.  I am old enough to remember Garry Maddox.  He was probably the greatest outfielder of his generation and he was not one to make insane diving catches or have scary collisions.  Imbedded in his amazing aptitude to play the outfield was the fluidity with which he played his position.  Devon White, much the same.

 

There is plenty of room for concern with the way Buxton plays the outfield because of how recklessly he goes about doing what he does.  I read an article where he went on and on about the famous Jim Edmonds catch and how he is on a quest to make a catch like that.  I think there were times he added danger to a situation just to make it more interesting.  Garry Maddox, Devon White, some of the other great outfielders of the past made things look much for effortless.   

[adorduan]

muscle doesn't help with pitch recognition...  just sayin....

[Doomtints]

 

Except for Wrigley,  ball parks have padding on the walls hence elastic. Barely elastic, but elastic. All the muscle in the world is still not going to change the fact that the head is going maybe 20 mph in one direction then suddenly not. The other thing that does not change is muscle does not like to be hit either. The muscles do get damaged and need recovery, just look at football

 

The degree of the injury can vary based on the fitness of the person.

 

There was one person who survived the car crash that killed Lady Diana -- a bodyguard who was a bodybuilder. This is certainly not the only example of a fit person surviving something that would kill most people.

 

Of course, we're not talking about death in this conversation, but it's also true that broken bones are less likely to occur when someone is more muscular.

[terrydactyls]

You should really look up the definition of elastic vs in elastic collisions.

I would like to see the definition of a collision while being in something elastic.

[terrydactyls]

I don't mean to get back on topic but did the article happen to mention if the batting practice included bunting?

[Richie the Rally Goat]

https://www.mlb.com/news/byron-buxton-adds-muscle-during-offseason/c-303203448

[old nurse]

 

The degree of the injury can vary based on the fitness of the person.

 

There was one person who survived the car crash that killed Lady Diana -- a bodyguard who was a bodybuilder. This is certainly not the only example of a fit person surviving something that would kill most people.

 

Of course, we're not talking about death in this conversation, but it's also true that broken bones are less likely to occur when someone is more muscular.

Buxton was not fit before? That is a new one.

Contusions, concussions, back spasms from hitting walls.  I think I missed when he broke a bone hitting the wall. Please, fill me in on when

The bodyguard was also the only one wearing a seat belt. It was said at the time if the others in the car were wearing seat belts it was likely they would have survived.

[ewen21]

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/byron-buxton-adds-muscle-during-offseason/c-303203448

Right off the bat we get this:

 

"If I want to play the way that I want to play and run into walls, I've got to have a little bit more cushion," Buxton joked.

 

Joking or not, this is getting into facepalm territory for me.  

[ahart10]

Hopefully all the hard work pays off for him. In wins for the Twins and some nice arb checks for Buck.

[fengriver]

 

If he's really spending 5 hours per day in the weight room, 21 pounds isn't suspicious in the least. He's a young guy. That's 550 hours of lifting.

Looking at Buxton I would think he is a white fast twitch superior athlete. Taken into account that means he is very exposive with a short amount of endurance. 5 hours in the gym truly working out would wear him down before long. Again he is definitely a upper level athlete but if he has gained 21 pounds its not all muscle like reported and will slow him down somewhat. 

[wabene]

This is good news. More muscle mass will definitely help him. A glance at a TV screen during an NFL game is all it takes to see that muscle mass helps with collisions. This also illustrates that the FO knows their man and were willing to look like the bad guy to motivate him. I'm optimistic and if this team and Buxton has success moving forward last fall's roster decision will be forgotten, lost among all the resultant good will. Too bad Gordon didn't join him for those workouts. 

[ewen21]

 

This is good news. More muscle mass will definitely help him. A glance at a TV screen during an NFL game is all it takes to see that muscle mass helps with collisions. This also illustrates that the FO knows their man and were willing to look like the bad guy to motivate him. I'm optimistic and if this team and Buxton has success moving forward last fall's roster decision will be forgotten, lost among all the resultant good will. Too bad Gordon didn't join him for those workouts. 

He needed to do exactly this.  For that reason I am pleased.

 

HOWEVER...….

Do we really need to read another quote from him about running into walls four lines into the article?

[laloesch]

This is a good thing. Bulking up a bit from pencil thin is going to help him. I like the dedication to conditioning, that's someone that's motivated to do better.

[Monkeypaws]

I want a Berrios Buxton cage match! 

[Number3]

Admittedly have not read all of the posts so I apologize of this has been addressed. The 21 lbs from lifting weights is obvious. More important is, how is the hitting going and exactly what does 90 minutes hitting even mean?

 

I am not encouraged by this at all and now we can add muscle pulls and related injuries to headaches and busted toes. I would like to see his bat collide with baseballs more and him colliding with fences less.

[big dog]

 

Did not say it was 100% elastic. If it were 100% elastic, there would not be a problem. There is a sight increase in mass. That may help redistribute the kinetic energy but it also increase the force in which he hits the wall at. Second of all, all the muscle does not change the effects of sudden deceleration on the brain

Also if it were 100% elastic he would hit the wall and bounce back 30 or 40 feet, which I'd pay money to see.