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Passan: Dodgers Nearing Deal for Forsythe

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According to Jeff Passan, the Dodgers are nearing a deal for Tampa Bay Rays 2B Logan Forsythe. 

 

 

 

Such a deal would all but officially end any possibility of a Brian Dozier trade... at least to the Dodgers.

 

Likely more to come... and relatively soon.

 

 

 

Now Ken Rosenthal is saying that the deal is agreed upon and Jose DeLeon is in it.

 

 

 

It's a one-for-one deal... 

 

https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/823681791827595264

 

 

Personal opinion: If that's the deal the Twins were offered, they were right to just say no.

 

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Nice job making the team better, new FO.......we just can't seem to trade our veterans when they are at their peak. sigh. But, hey, it's not like every other rebuilding team uses that path to get better. Every. Single. One. But the Twins, that is.

 

Jason Castro is it? Really? Wow.

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I don't know who in the free agent market they might go after now. I think they should sign Aybar for SS and turn Polanco into super utility like Ben Zobrist. 

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I had given consideration to removing or revamping my "total system failure" tag on here. This saves me the trouble. BLEEP Then again if BD continues his solid upward plane and hits 50 this year, I will gladly remove said quote. But something tells me the plane will be more in Berts direction of angle!

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Deleon for Forsythe straight up. Probably same thing they offered to Twins. 

And that's probably why the Twins didn't make the trade, which is a good thing. The Dodgers lowballed them, and now they have a mediocre second basemen. 

 

If the deal's not there, don't take it.

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I would think if Deleon and Alverez were indeed ever offered the Twins probably would have pulled the trigger on that.

It was offered along with one of the non Lux guys drafted last year. Twins thought they had more leverage then they had and got BURNED, not a good start. 95 losses but hey, at least Dozier will hit 50 HR! Maybe they can flip him at deadline
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It was offered along with one of the non Lux guys drafted last year. Twins thought they had more leverage then they had and got BURNED, not a good start. 95 losses but hey, at least Dozier will hit 50 HR! Maybe they can flip him at deadline

I still would have jumped on JDL + Alvarez and a bag of sunflower seeds.

I'm trying not to be too harsh on the new FO but it's hard not to be when we fail to sell high on our veteran player when they are at their peek value.

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If Castro is the only free agent the Twins bring in and if you don't count minor league signings and invite to spring training and don't do any trades durning  spring training and before the season starts  and go into the season with the same team from last year welcome to 100+ loss and the number one pick again. The new front office going to be like same old song and dance not do anything

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And that's probably why the Twins didn't make the trade, which is a good thing. The Dodgers lowballed them, and now they have a mediocre second basemen. 

 

If the deal's not there, don't take it.

 

Well, we don't know the deal, but do people really believe they only offered De Leon and junk for Dozier, but De Leon for Forsythe? I don't....

 

If the Twins really turned down what Dave says, well, I give them an F. 

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Yeah, I fear this team will be "rebuilding" well into 2019 at this rate, no matter how much they try to spin it.

 

You have an org in bad shape and an owner who is cheap and doesn't care, not a good combo.

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Well, we don't know the deal, but do people really believe they only offered De Leon and junk for Dozier, but De Leon for Forsythe? I don't....

 

If the Twins really turned down what Dave says, well, I give them an F.

I think this deal does more to confirm the idea the Dodgers offered DeLeon and nothing of any value for Dozier than the opposite.
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Well, we don't know the deal, but do people really believe they only offered De Leon and junk for Dozier, but De Leon for Forsythe? I don't....

 

If the Twins really turned down what Dave says, well, I give them an F. 

If Alvarez or maybe Brock Stewart was also offered, then I'd be more in favor of the trade, but only Deleon has been really talked about, so maybe it was just junk that was offered.

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FYI, Forsythe actually has a higher bWAR per PA rate than Dozier over the past 2 years. (Dozier does have the advantage in fWAR.)

I think Rays players automatically get a bump in in WAR ratings just because they're on the Rays.

 

Dozier also has a 33 HR advantage over the last 2 years as well.

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I think Rays players automatically get a bump in in WAR ratings just because they're on the Rays.

 

Dozier also has a 33 HR advantage over the last 2 years as well.

Dozier was also hurt 2nd half of 2015, when viewing Dozier you should view 2014/2015/2016 and realize he is just now entering his prime to get a good sample size.

 

Good news is that if he continues to progress we can get a monster deal at deadljne

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Good news is that if he continues to progress we can get a monster deal at deadljne

From who though? All contenders seem to have a 2B. We'd have to hope someone gets injured.

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