Rocco Baldelli Said The Time Is Now. The Twins Should Listen.

Very good article. 

Sorry dude but as soon as you wrote that Jenkins, Rodriguez, Lee & Matthews should be in play you lost all credibility.  You don't get better when your best players play for other teams.  Or your best prospects.  Some lines can't be crossed. End of story.

This FO has made it clear their overall goal is sustainable success. I highly doubt they trade any of our better prospects to take a stab at 2024. The time to add a good starter was last winter and we didn’t. 

That media disruption dispersion money is nowhere to be seen. It may not make it this year or at all. This seriously limits what this team can/will do at the deadline, hence crickets....

Lol, decent article but the owners care about one thing and that is money. There will be no significant trades.

Two teams have yet to make a trade. The Twins and the A's. 

Staumont's going to turn into a pumpkin and Stewart should still be on the IL. The bullpen's a glaring weakness at this point - even with Topa nearing a return.

SWR's got a bright future, but relying on him as the 4th starter and Festa / Paddack as the 5th starter in the middle of a pennant race is questionable at best.

The Pohlad's aren't serious about winning. It is what it is. There was every opportunity this season for the Twins to build off the momentum in 2023 and legitimately compete in a year where the American League lacks a truly dominant team.

Barring a miraculous run, the 2024 season will go down as one of the biggest disappointments in recent memory. The pennant was there for the taking and ownership was more concerned about pinching pennies. That's malpractice.

Additional context. I'm sure some will defend the Pohlad's but I can't bring myself to do it when literally every other team in baseball is doing something - whether its contenders shoring up their team for the stretch run or teams trying to rebuild for the future.

As noted, Oakland is one of two teams in the league to do exactly nothing thus far. The other is Minnesota. The Twins have spent much of the season in comfortable playoff position and are said to be working with payroll limitations (just as they were in the offseason), but their complete silence on the trade front is nevertheless surprising. Minnesota has been eyeing rental arms for the back of the rotation and could look for another outfield bat or reliever, but thus far the reigning AL Central champs have simply stood pat. They’re 5.5 games back of the division lead — a closeable gap in theory, but so far they’ve watched the Central-leading Guardians add Lane Thomas in a trade with the Nationals and the third-place Royals make multiple veteran acquisitions without doing anything to improve their own club.

47 minutes ago, dxpavelka said:

Sorry dude but as soon as you wrote that Jenkins, Rodriguez, Lee & Matthews should be in play you lost all credibility.  You don't get better when your best players play for other teams.  Or your best prospects.  Some lines can't be crossed. End of story.

 

agreed ...NO to all of these potential trade targets

I agree with Linus that we should have gone for a top-tier SP last winter. I disapproved of Twins advertising a fire sale (everyone will want a high discount). Gonzales should have been moved in a trade when he was worth more. I wouldn't go all out now by trading valuable prospects for questionable trade targets. There are some redundant high-ranking prospects we could trade but IMO the best deals are gone. My top trade target AJ Puk went off the boards right away who IMO was the best-buy. FO spent all available money this offseason on spots that could have been filled in-house. There are still some LHRPs out there but it'll come at a price. I don't see any reasonable top postseason SP out there now. Although I hate to see the Twins do nothing, I'd prefer that instead of them doing something stupid.

When they didn't jettison Farmer or Vasquez this winter/spring for more pitching you knew the writing was on the wall.

When they do sell , they will make tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars on the sale.  Yet these skin flint tight arsed owners won't spend diddly to improve this team.

The apple didn't fall one inch away from the original foreclosure specialist.

I strongly disagree on the notion of trading Jenkins or Rodriquez, both potential five tool impact players, for a short term starter. And probably not Lee, Mathews or Keaschall as well, though  it wouldn’t surprise me if Keaschall was traded today since infield is a position of depth. Other prospects further down would be OK if it solidifies the rotation. 

When the discussion pivots to trading Jenkins and Rodriguez, its moving the goal posts completely out of the stadium. I don't think anyone condones that especially because there's no one available that would justify such a dramatic trade. However, teams are making moves and they're not trading their top prospects. 

I too found the article interesting.  But I kept waiting for the Rocco Baldelli part of the story.  I also keep waiting for a story critiquing the Twins organization.  Not one of those nice, let's not hurt the Twins feelings story.  One thing g I'm not waiting for is the Twins to make any significant additions at the trade deadline.

I wonder what the corresponding move is for Dobnak...

With Festa starting, and after the pen's usage last night, Dobnak makes sense.

The Tigers are not going to part with Skubal.    He is the #1 starter that they will build a rotation around.   

16 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Just because YOU don't like it, doesn't mean it's not credible.

You really think Skubal goes for LESS than one of those guys? He probably goes for two of those kinds of prospects at least.

I'm sure the Twins won't do it, and I'm not sure that I'd be interested, but it's more than a credible take.

It is not 'more than a credible take'.

The Twins have been pinching pennies for the last 6 months. How is it credible to suggest that they would suddenly do a complete 180 and trade their top prospect(s) for a pitcher that will command a huge raise in the off-season?

If the Yankees pick up Flaherty, the Twins should see what the price is for Nestor Cortes. He's been inconsistent for the Yankees but he's not owed much money the rest of the season and the Twins can cut ties after the season if they're concerned about arbitration. He's pitched in high-leverage spots before and a change in scenery might do him some good.

3 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I said that the Twins wouldn't do that trade. I was refuting the posters fairly offensive, and completely wrong take that those kinds of prospects are untouchable. We see these big block buster trades every other year or so with multiple top prospects being moved for a super star player.

And while I agree the Twins won't do this trade, and I'm not sure that I'd want to, in these mega prospect trades, the team getting the prospects loses about 90% of the time. 

I wouldn't want the Twins to make this type of trade so I'm with you on that. And I do appreciate the content on TD. But, I just don't see how something can be called a 'more than credible take' when the outlined scenario has 0% chance of happening.