Is Bailey Ober Sustainable?

He's one of the 5 best options in the rotation and would be one of the 5 best options for most major league teams.

If the Twins really think he has a chance at next year's rotation, then he should stay, if the plan for next year doesn't include him, move him to the pen now.

Not even close to moving him to the pen. At times he just dominates a lineup. I think most of his lower body injuries can be corrected by changes to his mechanics or conditioning.

I don't have any real doubt that Ober is a major league caliber starting pitcher and will be in the Twins rotation for the next few years.

91 pitches tonight. 66 strikes. Looks like he might be here to stay! 7 solid innings!

This article didn’t age well.  7 shutout innings tonight.

Health is an issue and I wouldn’t sign him to a long term extension but he seems to give you a chance to win every time he pitches.  Might he break down later in the season and not have a long sustained career maybe.  Let the good times role and get what you can out of him.  Not that adjustment aren’t needed but what he’s been doing works for him.

Ober looked great tonight. He thinks he belongs. 

Ober is what most of the Twins SP in the minors are looking to be:  quality mid-rotation starters.  That isn't necessarily a bad thing.
 

All that matters are results. Tonight he got us 7 super innings and a win. Give me more Bailey Ober!!

Well played with the reverse jinx post.

Yes. he. is.

The only question is how good he can be and if he can safely build up his 'pitch count'

No reason to take him out of the rotation now. Mahle and Meida are broken. Ober is in his prime.

With team control through 2027, Ober is looking a rotation building block. It's really nice to have Lopez, Ryan , and Ober all under team control through 4 seasons after this year.

Not only did Ober pitch seven complete shutout innings, he out-pitched a guy that was working on a perfect game. Bailey Ober is an excellent mlb starter. 

Very interesting article and analysis. Ober has obviously been a bright spot in the brief time he's been up this year. But this one thing that stood out for me in this article was this:

Bailey Ober has pitched professionally since 2017 and has only once eclipsed the 100-inning mark in a season.

Obviously, the hope is that if he's healthy he will exceed that number of innings this year. Right now, he's looking great. 

Okay, I'll bite on the Brad Peacock reference.  After finishing a competitive year at AAA with Omaha and the Saints in 2022, whatever happened to him this season?  Retired?  Unsigned free agent?  International ball?

No brainer at the moment and in spring training that he should be pitching every 5th day or 6th depending on days off in s schedule.  Maeda got the spot but didn't have the stamina or strength to be a starter at the onset of the season.  Keep doing what you are doing Ober and spot is yours.  All pitchers will have a bad outing and then all the comments will be send him back down.  Long term that wouldn't be a good thing.

Well...he's a big guy, but I think if you feed him enough...he's sustainable. 

He should have been in the rotation out of spring training, where he outpitched Maeda. 

18 IP, 16 K, 6W, 0.98 ERA, 0.87 WHIP, yeah he should stay... not that these stats are maintainable, but he has looked every bit the part when in the starting rotation the past two plus seasons. If he is going to get injured, it might as well be here.  

17 hours ago, TwinsDr2021 said:

If the Twins really think he has a chance at next year's rotation, then he should stay, if the plan for next year doesn't include him, move him to the pen now.

what does next year have to do with anything? he's one of their five best right now, and they have multiple guys who'll be free agents at the end of the season anyway. 

2 hours ago, Althebum82 said:

Okay, I'll bite on the Brad Peacock reference.  After finishing a competitive year at AAA with Omaha and the Saints in 2022, whatever happened to him this season?  Retired?  Unsigned free agent?  International ball?

unsigned and doesn't even appear to have gone to spring training with anyone this year

What a strange article.  Talk about over analyzing and creating issues that aren't there.  He was denied a starting spot this spring due to him having an option left and this FO treatment of him.  He's pitched better than both Maeda and Mahle both of which probably won't be here next year.  He's proven he can handle the position and deserves the opportunity to prove it.  He may get injured you say due to his history?  What about Mahle?  He's been on the injury list several times since he was traded here.  I doubt his credibility as a major league starter.

Baldelli has been reluctant to let Ober pitch five innings, and sometimes he was even pulled after four. Give him the chance to prove he can start every fifth day and let’s see what happens. He might figure things out against left handed hitters, which will make him tough to face. And he might be past his injury problem, given all the professional training and preventative medical care they get.

Have you noticed that Ober is a tall human playing baseball. Tall players take longer to get in synch for the most part. Tall pitchers often reach their peak in their thirties. That makes Ober a young pitcher.

Ober has looked really good all year and has also not tired very easily. He was very good for St. Paul, despite his disappointment at being cut from the Twins team to start the season.

Should we expect ERA's of less than one per nine innings? Well, no. Ober is exactly where he belongs and could manage to blow away his innings totals without any harm. I'm expecting he is watched for how he commands the zone and finishes his pitches more than any other worries. Ober looks strong on the mound and we may be seeing a tall guy get it together both physically and mechanically this season. At least I hope so.

When looking at these type of stats it's important to compare to the league average. It's to be expected that Ober is better against righties, as he is a right-handed pitcher. Likewise, every single SP is better the 1st time through. So to make an argument that Ober is not suited as a SP, you need to compare with the league-average stats to prove the point.

Also, we have to consider that Ober is still a young pitcher and far from a finished product. Even if he is bad against lefties now, he could add another pitch to his repertoire that is more effective. To suggest that a young pitcher is more suited as a RP when said pitcher is still getting the feel of the majors is premature IMO, especially when he has already proved he is competent. If we keep doing that we would not be left with any young SPs.