Jorge Polanco Drawing Increased Trade Interest

It really does depend on the return in my opinion. It certainly won't at all be a salary dump, and I have to think someone will be coming back that will show it isn't just a completely sell-off.

I'm curious if they do pair Polanco with a prospect, or if something comes back JUST for Polanco. 

Again, this offseason will be fascinating. :)

I think Adames has a LOT more value than Polanco, for what it's worth. But Polanco still has value.

Here is a random thought I had that has no actual rumor attached or basis in anything I’ve read.

How much would the twins have to give, with Polanco, to get Max Meyer from Miami? He should be healthy from Tommy John this year, and his fastball/slider combo is special. Maybe a new regime in Miami would be open to considering it? He wasn’t this gm’s draft pick after all. 
I don’t think it would work as a 1 for 1, but man would his arm talent be fun to have. Being from Minnesota doesn’t hurt either 

I am with those that want a difference making return to move him.  When healthy he is essentially an 800 OPS bat with good plate discipline.  He can hit from both sides and while his defense holds him back some he isn't a huge liability out there either.

I don't know what the Twins can get for Polanco and he might mean more to the team than what he is worth in trade.  The Twins were wise not to give Kepler away last year I hope they feel the same way about Polanco.  If he can't bring back something that can help this years team it seems more prudent to keep him.  They can shift guys around if needed.

If he can bring back something valuable then the Twins have the depth to move him. IMO to get enough value back they would likely need to trade Polanco for Prospects as the trading team would give up more future value for present value.  Then the Twins could allocate the money saved to get something else in Free Agency with that saved money.  While I get that strategy it could backfire because prospects fail.  It would be better to get an MLB return if you ask me.  Will have to wait and see if some team really wants him and is willing to give up something the Twins need.

47 minutes ago, Cris E said:

He makes more sense than Max because you can clearly identify his replacement. I don't know how the outfield would look if there was a Kepler-shaped hole out there this spring, but we already know that the lineup can thrive without Polanco.  He's been a great Twin and I've enjoyed watching him play, but rosters are living things and the calendar is turning, turning, turning.

Agreed, Polo is more valuable to the market while Kepler is more valuable to the Twins.  I could easily see a situation that has Kepler staying with the Twins all season.

It works out nicely for us.  Kelper's value in the outfield rotation is critical as he's healthy and dependable, locking down a spot.  Set and forget players are very nice to have.  I still think he could get some CF rotation time too.  Maybe 30-40 games depending on how things go.  It will be good for the team and his free agent value, maybe bumping to the QO levels if he keep hitting.

22 minutes ago, TNTwinsFan said:

Glasnow helps in 2024 and has the potential to legitimately replace Sonny's 2023 performance. The salary hit is around $15m (difference between the two). Perhaps we throw in a decent A-Level lottery SP prospect (someone in the Top 15-25 range? Rays need salary relief and the Twins need a Top of the rotation SP. According to Baseball Trade Value, this is a level trade (with a lottery throw in).

Polo seems like he would be a Tampa type player and Glasnow would be great but I can't see them just taking that salary for a year.  Even at a $15m difference its still 25m for a single guy and restricts other moves.  If we see any actual steam about a trade like this I'll get really excited because my assumption would be that they are confident in some sort of extension to go with it.  A $25m rental just isn't in their mindset.

By the way, I'm pretty much done with baseball trade values website.  Its a fun tool but the level of work it would take to keep up with all these players makes it a lark at best.  Glasnow is listed as low availability.  Everything we hear is that he is the second most likely player to be traded after Soto and here's BBTV.com-LOW availability. 

16 minutes ago, TopGunn#22 said:

The Marlins make this trade because it gives them three useful pieces.  They get Polanco's switch-hitting bat at 2B (Arraez plays 1B now).  They get a swing pitcher in Winder who gives them some depth in their rotation after trading Meyer and losing Alcantara to Tommy John surgery for 2024, and they get an aging but effective when he's healthy LH in their bullpen.  They are considering building AJ Puk's innings as a possible rotation guy instead of closer.

The Twins do this trade because it gives them a young pitcher that slots in as a Ryan/Ober type rotation piece.  Meyer is 24 and he would be part of the Twins plans and rotation for a minimum of 5 years.  The Twins also effectively shed Polanco's $10.5 million dollar salary as well as Theilbar's $2.9 million (Caleb is the Twins most expensive relief pitcher by far).  This Frees up $13.4 million of salary that the Twins could apply to a Giolito or Bauer level SP.  Funderburk is replacing Theilbar's innings in the Twins bullpen already.  This leaves the Twins needing to replace 30-35 innings (that's all Theilbar is going to throw this season) and they can do that with Headrick.    

I like this trade.  It probably represents something pretty reasonable in terms of cost and return.  Unfortunately, many of us have a very inflated idea of what our players are worth and therefore only want to trade anyone for an "impact" player.  If we want an impact player, we have two choices, either trade an impact player (Lewis, Julien, etc.) for another one, OR trade a package of guys to a team that needs more players and is willing to give up an potential impact player.  Since we have major reluctance to trade from our players with the most value then we have to put together a package.  As someone said before, we have to give up something to get something.  On the team in its current iteration, the place of most strength is definitely middle infield.  It could be argued that we have more talent there than anyone else in the league.  If we can't trade anyone from that group, then close up shop and stop trying.  Based on age, health, and effectiveness, Polanco is probably the easiest to shop, and this is the time when we really benefit from the team friendly extension he signed a few years back - he's also relatively inexpensive for the team acquiring him, and thus increasing his value and attractiveness as a trade chip. 

42 minutes ago, TopGunn#22 said:

Cory, here is what a trade for Max Meyer from the Marlins would look like based on BBTV ratings.

Twins

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NAME	AGE	LEVEL	P1	P2	AVAILABILITY	YEARS	AFV	SALARY	SURPLUS	LOW	MEDIAN	HIGH
Max Meyer	24	Minors	SP			0	0	0	16.7	13.4	16.7	20.1

Total Value:

16.7

Marlins

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NAME	AGE	LEVEL	P1	P2	AVAILABILITY	YEARS	AFV	SALARY	SURPLUS	LOW	MEDIAN	HIGH
Jorge Polanco	30	Majors	2B		Low	2	31.9	22.5	9.4	7.6	9.4	11.3
Josh Winder	27	Majors	LRP	SP	Low	5	7	3.1	3.9	3.1	3.9	4.7
Caleb Thielbar	36	Majors	RP		Medium	1	6.6	3	3.6	2.8	3.6	4.3

Total Value:

16.90

I don’t think Miami would want Winder at all. I’d imagine it would be Polanco and then another actual prospect. 

18 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

If the Twins need money that badly, trade everyone (Polanco, Kepler, Vazquez, Farmer) for prospects. Otherwise it is pointless to trade an excellent player like Jorge Polanco for anything less than guys who will make the Twins a better team in 2024. 

The Twins have greater needs than second base, where Julien and Lee are on the rise. Polanco's two years of team control make him a valuable trade chip. It's not (only) about payroll, but when you have cheap replacements with at least a reasonable chance of performing as well or better (remember the Polanco injury issues), it makes sense to trade him. Of course, they will not give him away, but if he is the centerpiece of a trade for a decent starting pitcher, it works for me.

15 hours ago, Jocko87 said:

I still think he could get some CF rotation time too.  Maybe 30-40 games depending on how things go. 

He's played a grand total of 9 innings in CF across the past two seasons.  If Max logs 30 games in center, something has gone terribly, terribly not-according-to-plan.