Angels Reportedly Considering Ohtani Trade, A Reversal From Last Week

The Twins. haha.

Think the Halos would be interested in Gallo and Kep?

Take anyone they want - and I mean that.

How do you value two months of Ohtani?  For that matter how do you project his free agent contract?  He is such a unicorn it makes it really hard to assess. Will be fun to watch. 

You seldom win a trade in which the best player in the trade ends up on a different team.

Yankees will get him. Yuck.

2 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

The reason there's a question about it is because "Los Angeles Angels", who are essentially the Rockies with a bigger wallet.

The question is "how many dollars do we lose based upon the declaration of trading him.  this was nothing more than trying to squeeze a few more dollars from fans who were dreaming of the impractical or the least probabi;ity of him staying an Angel.  To paraphrase Lloyd Christmas, " Are you telling me there's a chance'?

1 hour ago, Linus said:

How do you value two months of Ohtani?  For that matter how do you project his free agent contract?  He is such a unicorn it makes it really hard to assess. Will be fun to watch. 

Yeah, it's like the home on Lake Minnetonka that has no comps for the realtor or potential buyer to go by. It's more like, if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it.

6 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I'm guessing the Dodgers will want him most, but the Angels will be reluctant to trade him to the cross town rivals, which likely would make them the favorite to sign him long term. I bet they're the rare team that is more worried about regional competitiveness over divisional and league competitiveness. 

Man, how have the Angels squandered the formative years of two of the greatest baseball players we'll ever see. The Twins recent failures pale in magnitude to the complete ineptitude the Angels have shown the last decade and a half.

Don't forget about the Pujols contract when you discuss the ineptitude of the Angels. That probably hamstrung their ability to field a competitive roster more than any other single factor. The whole thing is a classic example of an owner who knows and understands way less than he thinks he does.

They should absolutely trade him for assets. It does not preclude them from signing him in the offseason!

39 minutes ago, D.C Twins said:

They should absolutely trade him for assets. It does not preclude them from signing him in the offseason!

That's the first thing I thought of.  I recall he basically chose the Angels when he initially came over.  Suppose they now trade him for a ransom with a wink wink nod nod that he resign with them after the season.  Trout comes back next year with Ohtani plus the traded-for assets and they then can compete. 

Here is the question Twins fans:

Asked in all sincerity what would do you think it would take to Ohtani to the Twins?  I see two possible package scenarios:

1) Ohtani as a rental (at least 2 top prospects plus a handful middle ground guys)
2) Ohtani agreeing to an extension prior to the trade (would probably be something like 3 top prospects plus Kiriloff and possibly Ober).

I want to say zero percent chance the Twins do this, but signing Correa has thrown all of my assumptions out the window. 

One way or another, I see him on the Dodgers.  Either they wait for free agency and choose not to give up anything OR, they make a deal this season.  Here's why they could make a deal this season.  The Dodgers have a winning culture and this year despite letting a ton of players go in free agency they are still in the playoff picture.  Supposedly, the Dodgers let Turner, Bellinger, Kenley Jansen and others walk in order to free up salary to go after Ohtani.  But even though they are a playoff team, the Dodgers are a shell of what they've had in the not too distant past.  They need Ohtani to put them over the top and become a serious contender.  I think the Dodgers make a play to give Ohtani a taste of playoff baseball and maybe even a World Series championship.  That could seal the deal of Ohtani sticking with the Dodgers after this season.  

12 hours ago, Fire Dan Gladden said:

Here is the question Twins fans:

Asked in all sincerity what would do you think it would take to Ohtani to the Twins?  I see two possible package scenarios:

1) Ohtani as a rental (at least 2 top prospects plus a handful middle ground guys)
2) Ohtani agreeing to an extension prior to the trade (would probably be something like 3 top prospects plus Kiriloff and possibly Ober).

I want to say zero percent chance the Twins do this, but signing Correa has thrown all of my assumptions out the window. 

Way too much to give up for one player in either of these two scenarios even if he is the greatest player ever.  A single injury to him would cripple the team as they would have too much invested in one player IMHO.  There would be no payroll remaining to support him.  Let some other team like the Dodgers over-pay.

15 hours ago, D.C Twins said:

They should absolutely trade him for assets. It does not preclude them from signing him in the offseason!

Wouldn't that be fun to see happen?

22 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

Yeah, a solid top 3 there. Will be interesting if they trade within the division. I’m rooting for chaos and Baltimore going all in this year. 

Low-key rooting for TX because I want to catch him at TF this year. 

The market for Ohtani may be a little thinner than you'd expect with him being the best player in the game.

The AL West has a couple of suitors that make sense (Seattle & Texas), but I highly doubt they will trade in division or to the cross-town Dodgers.

The Braves, Astros, and Marlins do not have the minor-league talent to get a deal done. The Reds, Orioles, Red Sox, and Diamondbacks are emerging from rebuilds/retools and aren't going to substantially shorten their windows for a rental. 

The Rays and Brewers are fits in theory, but are unlikely to extend Ohtani. With them being small-market, it doesn't make much sense for them to give up top prospects.

That leaves the Blue Jays, Yankees, and  Giants as likely suitors. If the Angels are willing to trade in division or to the Dodgers, that's still only six teams that are willing/able to pull of an Ohtani trade. Personally, the Giants make the most sense, as the Blue Jays have four above average starters and the Yankees may not want to move Giancarlo Stanton to the field.

47 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

My bet: Tampa Bay shocks the world and trades for Ohtani as a rental.

They have the prospects to get it done, anyone can afford 2 months of salary, and a team good enough to get max value out of adding an impact player.

Book it.

Second choice: Texas

 

 

Interesting viewpoint with a lot of merit. This would probably distance them even further from the rest of the AL, both in the regular season and the postseason. The only question is whether they have the cojones to pull the trigger.

The Angels would be silly not to move him and get some good you players. 

7 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

But he replaces Gray in the rotation and Kepler in right. 

No disagreement with a trade for Ohtani, but remember that after pitching Ohtani cannot play in the field (recovery), which is why he is always the DH for the Angels. 

I would think that Ohtani is worth $50 million per year at least.  It is going to be worth following, for sure.