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41 minutes ago, MMBoys93 said:

55th percentile xSLG, 60th percentile hard hit, .488 SLG in minors this year. Martin career high is 7 HRs at any minor league level. Not a good comp 

It's a good comp for overall production/profile.

MiLB, especially this year's International League, is not the same as MLB. 80%+ of players you're comparing Roden to in the minors are not good enough to stick on an MLB roster. So yeah, Roden's "hard hit" could be slightly better than the average player who isn't good enough to play in MLB.

You seem to be confused about SLG = Power. It's not. ISO is extra base production. SLG is batting average + extra bases. Roden has a high batting average. He has a very low ISO at the level where it counts (MLB).

Roden has a career ISO of .102 at the MLB level. Martin has a career ISO of .090. Might as well be identical twins as far as I'm concerned.

Roden hit 1 HR in 94 PA this year, which would be 6 HRs in 600 PA. Martin hit 3 HR in 358 PA or 5 HRs in 600 PA. Again, twins where it actually matters (MLB).

Rodens bat speed is 69.7 mph. Martins is 69.1 mph. Power comes from bat speed. They're both far below average. The biggest difference between them is Roden tries to hit the ball hard 2x as often as Martin. 

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48 minutes ago, IndianaTwin said:

Yeah, but if he splits time between 1B and the OF, people will complain about the Twins not putting a guy at a position and letting him stay there. 

That's sarcasm -- I'm a big fan of positional flexibility. Put me in the camp of those intrigued enough by his past to explore the options. And he's still got an option left, according to Fangraphs. 

Like I always say: the best benches have a guy who can only play second base

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28 minutes ago, S Bart said:

Maybe come to spring training with a little less weight also. 🤔 it would improve his performance.

They said that every year with Sano. And when he would finally shed the weight off, he still performed just as horribly. So losing the weight doesn't really mean anything. Could losing the weight help stave off some exhaustion and potential injuries down the line? Absolutely. But there isn't as much correlation that as people like to think.

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Just now, MackMan said:

They said that every year with Sano. And when he would finally shed the weight off, he still performed just as horribly. So losing the weight doesn't really mean anything. Could losing the weight help stave off some exhaustion and potential injuries down the line? Absolutely. But there isn't as much correlation that as people like to think.

It means you can start running quicker and longer.

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Just now, RpR said:

It means you can start running quicker and longer.

Maybe. Now I'm not saying that he's currently Matthew LeCroy where he needs an oxygen mask rounding 1st base, but it isn't the biggest thing he needs to work on. Could he get down to 200 or maybe even 190? Probably and it would definitely help his overall health. But I would rather see him hitting the weight room harder than trying to lose weight. 

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3 hours ago, bean5302 said:

Nah, we have the first baseman of the future already on the roster. Aaron Sabato put up top 5%, top 10%, top 20% a really high OPS in the minors this year and his xwOBA of .308 suggests he deserved to be top 5%, top 10%... better than average, not the absolute worst hitter in the International league so he's guaranteed for the future!

Why the need to drag Sabato through the mud? Was he mentioned in the article? Is he related to the article? You just wanted to read numbers on Sabato? You don't like like Sabato? And yes I know the answer to my question already. Now can we get back to Rosen as the topic?

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50 minutes ago, MackMan said:

They said that every year with Sano. And when he would finally shed the weight off, he still performed just as horribly. So losing the weight doesn't really mean anything. Could losing the weight help stave off some exhaustion and potential injuries down the line? Absolutely. But there isn't as much correlation that as people like to think.

Tom Hanks Running GIF well...there is speed..less weight..

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