Marlins 4, Twins 1: Woof

[bean5302]

From last night's game. It really was a beautiful night for baseball. It would have been better with a win or more fans in attendance to experience some really cool clouds!

[Rhyno006]

14 hours ago, Old Crow said:

Sadly, the Twins have become virtually unwatchable.  

That's rather poetic as the Twins have literally been unwatchable for a lot of us this season lol

[Aggies7]

1 hour ago, ashbury said:

You'd rather not see five wins in a row?  That's pretty much what it would take for your scenario to play out.  And then followed by two quick losses?  I dunno, that's cutting off your nose to spite your face, in my book.  I want to see winning baseball.

Well, you’ve come to the wrong place 

[ashbury]

1 minute ago, Aggies7 said:

Well, you’ve come to the wrong place 

[Mortimerkenny21]

5 hours ago, chinmusic said:

 

Turn off the volume, and replace with music of your choice. It's (almost) therapeutic.😉

Don't let the Twins ruin music for you.

[thelanges5]

1 hour ago, ashbury said:

You'd rather not see five wins in a row?  That's pretty much what it would take for your scenario to play out.  And then followed by two quick losses?  I dunno, that's cutting off your nose to spite your face, in my book.  I want to see winning baseball.

Look at the other WC records against the White Sox. We “deserve it” just as much as anyone else. The problem is that we are playing at a 52-110 pace right now. 
 

• Kansas City Royals: 12-1 
• Minnesota Twins: 12-1
• Detroit Tigers: 9-1 with 3 left to play

5 games left and it starts tonight!

[Aggies7]

1 hour ago, chinmusic said:

Again, with the "we don't deserve it" schtick. Makes no sense. They're not going to win 5 in a row, because they are playing really poorly. Still want to see how it plays out, though. Isn't that why we're fans?

 

It’s not really a schtick at all. The twins have had the great fortune of playing 13 games against a team about to set the modern day record for single season futility. They are 69-75 against the rest of baseball.

Interestingly, the royals and tigers also only have one loss against the white sox. But they’ve done slightly better against everyone else, and that’s why they’ll (likely) get in and the twins will be playing golf.

The twins are 21-33 against the current AL playoff qualifiers. That’s a .388 winning percentage. In other words, that sucks. If not for MLBs insatiable desire for more revenue from the expanded playoffs, the twins would have been eliminated already. The twins don’t deserve anything except a house cleaning, on and off the field.

[Aggies7]

9 minutes ago, thelanges5 said:

Look at the other WC records against the White Sox. We “deserve it” just as much as anyone else. The problem is that we are playing at a 52-110 pace right now. 
 

 

• Kansas City Royals: 12-1 
• Minnesota Twins: 12-1
• Detroit Tigers: 9-1 with 3 left to play

5 games left and it starts tonight!

The playoffs never should have been expanded past 5 teams. Actually it shouldn’t have been expanded past 4. The white sox are the only reason the central is getting 3 teams in. None of those teams are good enough.

[laloesch]

3 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

The playoffs never should have been expanded past 5 teams. Actually it shouldn’t have been expanded past 4. The white sox are the only reason the central is getting 3 teams in. None of those teams are good enough.

Right now, I'm not even sure the Twins could beat the White Sox.

[chinmusic]

12 minutes ago, Mortimerkenny21 said:

Don't let the Twins ruin music for you.

Nah. As insipid as they have been, they could never do that. Classical music dulls the pain . So does making light of the situation.🙂

 

13 minutes ago, Mortimerkenny21 said:

Don't let the Twins ruin music for you.

 

[chinmusic]

Just now, laloesch said:

Right now, I'm not even sure the Twins could beat the White Sox.

Actually, Cleveland has had trouble with them. Go figure!

[Mortimerkenny21]

2 minutes ago, chinmusic said:

Actually, Cleveland has had trouble with them. Go figure!

Baseball is weird.

[Aggies7]

Records against current AL playoff teams:

Guardians: 19-23

Tigers: 20-24

Royals: 22-24

Twins: 21-33

🤮

[TheLeviathan]

13 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

Apparently not, but I appreciate your support.

Your effort is appreciated.  Some of us see that you are trying to rise above and we commend you for it.

[Riverbrian]

39 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Records against current AL playoff teams:

Guardians: 19-23

Tigers: 20-24

Royals: 22-24

Twins: 21-33

🤮

Yet we still have the TIEBREAKER over all 3 teams we are competing with. 

[NYCTK]

1 hour ago, thelanges5 said:

Look at the other WC records against the White Sox. We “deserve it” just as much as anyone else. The problem is that we are playing at a 52-110 pace right now. 
 

 

• Kansas City Royals: 12-1 
• Minnesota Twins: 12-1
• Detroit Tigers: 9-1 with 3 left to play

5 games left and it starts tonight!

Could also argue that none of these three teams deserve it, only being in the hunt because of inflated season results playing the worst team in history. 

I could very easily argue the Mariners and Red Sox, and perhaps the Rays, are better than all three of these teams. 

[chpettit19]

3 hours ago, USAFChief said:

We get it. When you've tied yourself to the position "managers don't matter in MLB, youve painted yourself into a corner of "Nothing is ever the manager's fault. Ever."

By definition, it CAN'T be.

 

The guy responsible for writing the everyday lineup. 

 

The guy who makes every single pitching decision for 162 games. 

 

The guy who watches Jorge Alcala turn a 4-0 lead into a 5-4 deficit. "Nothing he could do."

The guy who hasn't had the same lineup in back to back games in 6 years. Wow, can't believe nobody can maintain anything. 

Maybe pull back from focusing on Manny Margot in one game, and take a larger look at the manager for once. 

 

 

Here's a great example to prove my point that I am absolutely not a "Nothing is ever the manager's fault. Ever." guy. Batting Ed Julien leadoff tonight after basically refusing to play him in any circumstance for weeks is atrocious.

See how I had a different take based on it being a different situation?

[NYCTK]

48 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Records against current AL playoff teams:

Guardians: 19-23

Tigers: 20-24

Royals: 22-24

Twins: 21-33

🤮

I said it a few days ago, the Al Central is truly the worst division in baseball. Only the Al West is even in the argument. And...this just kinda proves it.

[chpettit19]

3 minutes ago, NYCTK said:

That doesn't make you any less wrong before. 

No, the stats I provided that you couldn't refute made me less wrong before. But at this point you're not even trying to argue facts so it needs to be the end of our back and forth here. Because, based on your logic, this should be a smart move based on Julien's career OPS of .753 while ignoring his season OPS of .636.

[Aggies7]

21 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

Yet we still have the TIEBREAKER over all 3 teams we are competing with. 

The point was that none of the teams outside of Cleveland is worthy. But at least Cleveland would have qualified in the past based on their winning the division. Terrible white sox + expanded playoffs. I bet Boston and Seattle would have loved to get 13 games against the white sox 

[Riverbrian]

6 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Great when we do we get the trophy? 😂

What do you want Aggies? 

The narrative being told over and over is that we have this horrible record against winning teams. We are battling 3 teams for the playoffs and we hold the tiebreaker over all of them. 

No trophy is necessary. No Cookies for a reward or fish for the seals either. 

I keep looking for an Ethos discussion in a room full of pathos. 

Ultimately... That's my fault.  

 

 

[chinmusic]

29 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

Yet we still have the TIEBREAKER over all 3 teams we are competing with. 

Which just adds to the frustration. 

[nicksaviking]

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I am as frustrated with this season as anyone, but personal attacks, generalizations about other posters and finger pointing is exponentially more frustrating. We have a healthy number of posters who absolutely refuse to write anything other than blatant flaming, trolling, thread jacking and dwelling on one single pet topic. Being critical is completely different than being intentionally negative solely to try to spread your misery.

This is Twins baseball. Every one of us has gone through crap seasons before yet a ton of people are acting like this is some new plague on society. It's baseball, not life altering world events, cool it with the attacks on each other.

This is going to stop or there's going to be a hell of a lot of posting privileges temporarily paused.

[D. Hocking]

Almost feels like the inverse of Molitor's last season where they had a bad start, and they officially threw in the towel and traded Dozier etc at the trade deadline.  I think Buxton was also sent to the minors for the rest of the year.

I thought the team would further crater, but instead they improved and finished the rest of the season playing above 500.  It would have been easy for them to get the attitude, the owners etc don't believe in us and just mail it in, but they ended up finishing playing respectably.   Not necessarily World Series level, but at least the games were not painful to watch.

I can see why they wanted to completely start over and got rid of Molitor after that season but wonder if he did not get enough credit for getting that team to show up in August and September.

 

[S Bart]

16 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

Do has 2 additional tweets with Correa quotes but this kinda says it all, no? We’ve got some players in the clubhouse planning their vacation on Monday. 

 

[S Bart]

Just now, S Bart said:

well said Carlitos

 

Just now, S Bart said:

 

 

[S Bart]

16 hours ago, hitterscount said:

You down vote anyone that has anything negative to say about Rocco… please share what you see in his managerial decisions that deserve respect? It’s been two plus years of uninspiring performance, many questionable decisions… what are many of us missing?

Jim and Joe Pohlad were at the game last night to see the continued implosion. If they do nothing to make changes, it only adds to their modus operandi that they simply do not care. If that is the case, please..don't have these events to show that you care such as the traveling caravan and this "modeling of new uniforms" which is ridiculous. Most of all, don't make out like you care about the state of Minnesota. It is on you. PLEASE POHLADS...DO SOMETHING OR SELL.

Edited September 25, 2024 by S Bart
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[jkcarew]

17 hours ago, USAFChief said:

"...Kyle Farmer hit into an inning ending double play. It's funny, but Farmer is kind of who you wanted to see in that situation..."

 

You might have wanted Kyle Farmer. 

Not me.

"Recent hot hitting" notwithstanding. 

I can do without Manny Margot too.

 

 

It’s the kind of thing that gets written when having to cover a non-serious baseball team day in and day out.

Right up there with “Randy Dobnak has a good chance of controlling the Yankees” in game 2 of a playoff series.

[jkcarew]

IMO, there’s a rational argument to be made for those that DON’T want the Twins to make the post season at this point. And it has nothing to do with getting clobbered in the first round…as likely as that is.

It has to do with the incentive for change. If they stumble in, is it an excuse for validation of the organization’s leadership? A cause for celebration…”look what we did despite the injuries!” ?? Something that can be sold to a largely casual and gullible fan base?

If they fail, does it force the org to come clean on a significant sliver of reality?

I don’t know, but it’s a legit question, IMO.

[Aggies7]

2 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

What do you want Aggies? 

The narrative being told over and over is that we have this horrible record against winning teams. We are battling 3 teams for the playoffs and we hold the tiebreaker over all of them. 

No trophy is necessary. No Cookies for a reward or fish for the seals either. 

I keep looking for an Ethos discussion in a room full of pathos. 

Ultimately... That's my fault.  

 

 

To be fair, I changed my comment to be less smarmy.
 

I’d like us to be a good team. We do have a horrible record against good teams. 7-21 against NYY, Baltimore and Cleveland. 
 

That’s bad. Having the tiebreaker over two other teams that also don’t deserve to keep playing is pretty meaningless.