stringer bell Verified Member Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Sounds like good news for Kirilloff. Less invasive procedures would indicate the injury wasn't as serious and that recovery won't take as long (I guess). If any medical professionals want to weigh in, it would be appreciated. Here is the item from mlbtraderumors.com The Twins announced today (as relayed by The Athletic’s Dan Hayes) that outfielder and first baseman Alex Kirilloff avoided a potentially more invasive procedure on his right shoulder as Dr. Neal ElAttrache performed a cleanup procedure of the bursal sac in Kirilloff’s right shoulder today. The Twins had previously revealed that Kirilloff would require offseason shoulder surgery, though it was unclear how severe the procedure would be at the time of the announcement. Ultimately, today’s update appears to be positive news for Minnesota, as Kirilloff will reportedly focus on strengthening his shoulder and improving its range of motion “in the coming weeks” before progressing to his normal offseason routine. Kirilloff acted as the club’s primary first baseman when healthy this season, slashing a solid .270/.348/.445 in 319 trips to the plate across 88 games. Richie the Rally Goat 1
Original_JB Verified Member Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 I read in the Strib that the surgeon removed a bursa sac but didn't need to mess with the rotator cuff or labrum. That's a whole bunch of good news. https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-twins-alex-kirilloff-shoulder-surgery-injury/600314778/ DocBauer, Nine of twelve, nicksaviking and 4 others 7
tony&rodney Verified Member Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 This is potentially great news. Once again the Twins (and their fans) will hope and see if AK can become the line drive high average extra base hit machine to anchor the middle of an effective scoring offense. One wonders how this news affects the Twins search for bats. glunn and TopGunn#22 2
glunn Community Moderator Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 This seems like great news. Thanks for sharing. Doctor Gast 1
tony&rodney Verified Member Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 Imagine Kirilloff replicating his 2018 year in 2024 at the MLB level. DocBauer 1
stringer bell Verified Member Posted October 26, 2023 Author Posted October 26, 2023 I still have hope that AK becomes an All-Star, but each injury gives me more reason to doubt that he'll ever reach his potential. I wonder if the shoulder is the reason he had most of his power to the opposite field while he didn't sting the ball as often to the pull side. Squirrel, Cory Engelhardt and NoCryingInBaseball 3
stringer bell Verified Member Posted October 26, 2023 Author Posted October 26, 2023 Does this mean that Kirilloff is projected to be ready to go by Opening Day? I’d love to see him have a full healthy season and see what he produces. tarheeltwinsfan, Cory Engelhardt, DocBauer and 3 others 6
Dave Borton Verified Member Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 My gosh. Removed the bursa. I have to put Tiger Balm on mine daily. .
CRF Verified Member Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 Hurt my right shoulder 30 something years ago playing softball, as I was diving for a ball to make a catch. Stupid. I rolled hard onto my shoulder and it was numb for days after that. I saw an ortho doc and I apparently did something to the bursa sac in my right shoulder, I don't recall exactly what. It was swollen or inflamed...something along those lines. Anyway, my shoulder was never the same. I couldn't raise my arm or throw a ball 10 ft after hurting it. Hurt like all hell. Fortunately, it didn't affect my golf swing at all. It took a couple years for my shoulder to feel better. I sure hope AK recovers and he's healthy and ready for 2024. TopGunn#22 1
AceWrigley Verified Member Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 Shoulder injuries can really suck as they can mess with your sleep too, as probably a lot of injuries can i guess. Hope he has a quick recovery and get ready for a great season in 2024. Go Twins. Another thing. If a guy is that "injured" and you have to treat him that delicately, why is he even playing? Wouldn't a healthy replacement be a better option?
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 1 hour ago, davidborton said: My gosh. Removed the bursa. I have to put Tiger Balm on mine daily. . I’m pretty much putting tiger balm everywhere. It’s the cologne of the arthritic elderly nicksaviking, DocBauer, Rod Carews Birthday and 2 others 5
Original_JB Verified Member Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 I remember I irritated the one in my knee pretty bad and it felt like a hot poker coated in broken glass being driven in any time I'd go to kneel on it, but otherwise didn't restrict me much. So I can imagine the 'hesitancy' for lack of a better term, of giving it his full, normal swing, if there's that "bite" waiting to jump out at any time.
TopGunn#22 Verified Member Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 This is great news! Before this popped up at the end of the season and playoffs it seemed like 1B wasn't going to be a problem for next season. Suddenly it did. Now, like all of us here on TD I'm wondering what his timeline is for a full spring training and the regular season. I don't think Solano will come close to duplicating what he did this last season and it would be nice to have a RH bat to at least give Kirilloff a little time to ease in. I don't think Miranda is that guy, and I don't see him having any future in Minnesota. I'd like to use guys like Miranda and Larnach to get us something we need. It's going to be an interesting off season.
tony&rodney Verified Member Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 The reports before surgery indicated that there were many outcomes possible from exploring and seeking the source of Kirilloff's pain. A procedure on shoulders can mean either a long recovery of months to a year plus and even end a career. I had rotator cuff surgery and can at least use my shoulder for normal activities. I'm not familiar with the removal of the bursa sac. Just throwing out a thought that AK will be fully healed and finished with rehab before Spring Training and can go full bore. A complete March for Kirilloff has the possibility to uncover the bat of his 2018 minor league season before he started his string of injuries. That would be like adding a big bat in a trade. Let's hope so.
Original_JB Verified Member Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 So, I went looking to see if the sac removal would lead to arthritis issues down the road and amazingly, I found this little nugget: What happens after bursa is removed? In most cases, a new bursa will grow back within a couple weeks after a bursectomy. The new bursa will most likely be healthy and will not have the pain and inflammation that may have been experienced with the removed bursa. From: https://www.njspineandortho.com/how-to-know-if-you-need-a-bursectomy/ Craig Arko, CRF, TiberTwins and 1 other 4
Rod Carews Birthday Verified Member Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Original_JB said: So, I went looking to see if the sac removal would lead to arthritis issues down the road and amazingly, I found this little nugget: What happens after bursa is removed? In most cases, a new bursa will grow back within a couple weeks after a bursectomy. The new bursa will most likely be healthy and will not have the pain and inflammation that may have been experienced with the removed bursa. From: https://www.njspineandortho.com/how-to-know-if-you-need-a-bursectomy/ Wow! Didn’t see that one coming. Sounds like changing the tire on a car. If only that were the case all around!
MMMordabito Verified Member Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Rod Carews Birthday said: Wow! Didn’t see that one coming. Sounds like changing the tire on a car. If only that were the case all around! I guess we still have some traits from our lizard ancestors. Rod Carews Birthday 1
jmlease1 Verified Member Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 This sounds like very good news for Kirilloff, and should increase the odds that he is rehabbed and ready to go by Spring Training. There are no guarantees, but this is unquestionably a less severe injury than if he needed repair on the labrum or rotator cuff. I'm going to guess that come the winter meetings, the Twins will have a much better idea of his progress and what level of depth they'll need to have in place. This also makes me think even more strongly that an in-house option for depth is more more likely than a significant free agent, but we will see. Miranda's recovery will probably influence this to some degree as well; if the indicators are that he'll be fully rehabbed before Spring Training that would make an external depth option even less needed, which would allow for resources to stay focused on CF (they simply can't go into the season planning on Buxton playing a full year there), the rotation, and the bullpen. Good news for Kirilloff, who needed some luck to go his way. TiberTwins 1
Twins_Fan_in_NJ Verified Member Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 Great news. Still really high on AK. I think he has the potential to be an all-star caliber 1B - if he can stay healthy.
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