Game Thread: Twins v White Sox, 7/17/22 @ 1:10 CT

[Aggies7]

Smith appears to be toast

[Danchat]

Remember the first 2 months of nearly perfect Joe Smith pitching? Ah, good times... seems like the reverse of what happened to him last year. Astros DFA'd him after putting up a 7+ ERA, then he figured it out in the second half with the Mariners.

[bighat]

5 minutes ago, Nashvilletwin said:

Sellers….

The Twins selling while up 1.5 games would bring back memories of the famous "White Flag trade" that the Sox pulled off back in the day....

[Aggies7]

Absolutely embarrassing. Feel bad for smith but this is gross 

[RickOShea]

Just now, Danchat said:

Remember the first 2 months of nearly perfect Joe Smith pitching? Ah, good times... seems like the reverse of what happened to him last year. Astros DFA'd him after putting up a 7+ ERA, then he figured it out in the second half with the Mariners.

 

[mrtwinsfan]

leave smith in and . D.F.A. Him b4 next series

[Aggies7]

What could we get for Carlos correa lol

[snotboogie]

[Irishman]

29 minutes ago, CRF said:

Losing 3 of 4 to the Sox here at home, is pitiful. Unless the FO makes some moves to fix a few things, we're in big trouble. We've got one foot out the door, and the other on the banana peel. 

FO wouldn’t make any trade!   FO have no clue how to run the team.    Scouting department is not that great.  Mediocre drafts.  Pitching and bullpen pitching are terrible.   Twins bats are not that good.   

[KirbyDome89]

Maybe that was Rocco's attempt at a MN passive aggressive message to the FO about bullpen help....

[bighat]

2 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Smith appears to be toast

Stale toast at that - dude's been burned to a crisp since early June and has been lying on the counter ever since.

[RickOShea]

One of the best lines in a sports comedy,.  When they bring Vaughn in, in the movie Major League,  and Rube says "Rick Vaughn?"

I feel that same way on many occasions with the Twins.

[Danchat]

Since May 27th, hitters are hitting .426 against Smith with 6 HRs. ERA of 10.61 in that stretch!

[bighat]

1 minute ago, mrtwinsfan said:

leave smith in and . D.F.A. Him b4 next series

The All-Star Break will be just the excuse the Front Office needs to...do nothing about it.

"These guys are fine, they just need some time to rest" will be the quote from Falvine.

[Irishman]

Please waive Joe Smith tonight!   He is so terrible.   

[LVTwinsfan]

24 minutes ago, ashbury said:

Maybe we just load up on ten of those such guys, have 3 other pitchers for the bullpen in case one of them needs bailing out or wants a closer to take over, and call it a rotation.

8 would be enough, if you’re only working 4 innings, 3 days rest should be enough. But then 4 innings becomes three and your bullpen is still being overused

[notoriousgod71]

Twins Joe Smith signing is worse than the wolves Joe Smith signing.

[Platoon]

13 minutes ago, KirbyDome89 said:

There's also an aftereffect that never seems to make it into these convos. Archer can certainly be effective for 3-4 innings, but if you're managing his exposure, and consistently asking 6+ IP from a bullpen that largely consists of guys who need to limited, in addition to a rotation that's also being minimized in terms of exposure, you can see how the snowball starts to form. 

It’s 93 here, trust me there are no snowballs forming! ☃️☃️

[Irishman]

1 minute ago, Danchat said:

Since May 27th, hitters are hitting .426 against Smith with 6 HRs. ERA of 10.61 in that stretch!

It is no wonder he is terrible!  Baldelli sending J. smith to pitch baffles me!   Baldelli did not get it!

[RickOShea]

Half of the Twins players don't know their left from their right.  Watch them stand for 'God bless America'.  they haven't a clue.  And yet, we expect them to throw strikes and swing a decent bat.

[ashbury]

Three innings to mount a comeback!

[Aggies7]

16 minutes ago, KirbyDome89 said:

There's also an aftereffect that never seems to make it into these convos. Archer can certainly be effective for 3-4 innings, but if you're managing his exposure, and consistently asking 6+ IP from a bullpen that largely consists of guys who need to limited, in addition to a rotation that's also being minimized in terms of exposure, you can see how the snowball starts to form. 

This has been said a lot. Some disagreed because “that’s how it is in today’s game”, but you can’t treat your bullpen like a rented mule. Especially if they aren’t good to begin with. You have to, at some point, get meaningful innings from your starts. Unfortunately our starters are bad too 

[AceWrigley]

Rocco, how do you like your relief pitchers? Well Done. Smith is cooked.

[RickOShea]

Is Melancon healthy and available from arizona?

[Aggies7]

Just now, AceWrigley said:

Rocco, how do you like your relief pitchers? Well Done. Smith is cooked.

 

[IndyTwinsFan]

1 minute ago, bighat said:

The All-Star Break will be just the excuse the Front Office needs to...do nothing about it.

"These guys are fine, they just need some time to rest" will be the quote from Falvine.

Sadly, you're probably pretty close to the truth with that statement. 

The conundrum appears to be that with the expanded playoffs and with so many teams thinking they have a chance to sneak in, that there may not be many viable options available.  Plus, many of those who could be available are probably going to require a king's ransom to pry loose.  Not a good scenario to be facing for teams like us.  Could be a da**ed if you do and da**ed if you don't type of situation.  A no-win for sure.

[RickOShea]

Just now, RickOShea said:

Is Melancon healthy and available from arizona?

I'm looking for rebuilding projects during a pennant race,

[Nine of twelve]

1 minute ago, RickOShea said:

Half of the Twins players don't know their left from their right.  Watch them stand for 'God bless America'.  they haven't a clue.  And yet, we expect them to throw strikes and swing a decent bat.

Keep in mind that GBA is not an official song or anthem. There have been dozens of patriotic songs written over the years and this is just one of those. It's nothing special. It's just a song. So there's no required or expected protocol when it's played or performed.

[ashbury]

15 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Smith appears to be toast

Spread today with 7th inning jam.

[Aggies7]

1 minute ago, IndyTwinsFan said:

Sadly, you're probably pretty close to the truth with that statement. 

The conundrum appears to be that with the expanded playoffs and with so many teams thinking they have a chance to sneak in, that there may not be many viable options available.  Plus, many of those who could be available are probably going to require a king's ransom to pry loose.  Not a good scenario to be facing for teams like us.  Could be a da**ed if you do and da**ed if you don't type of situation.  A no-win for sure.

This x100. Would probably have to give up a correa to expect a big haul