Manny Machado to the Padres

[Seth Stohs]

According to Jeff Passan, the first big domino has fallen as the Padres and Manny Machado have agreed to terms.

 

Recent reports were that the Padres had offered somewhere between 8 years and $240-280 million. Apparently no one topped it. Itll be interesting to see what the final tally is.

 

Mark Feinsand is reporting 10 years, $300 million.

 

https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1097911249399177221 

[Vanimal46]

The San Diego Dads are going to be a fun team to watch...

[markos]

At least it's not the White Sox...

[BobAzar]

 

At least it's not the White Sox...

 

 

I was super worried he would sign there. We already have Lindor in the division, didnt need Manny.

 

 

 

[SomeGuy]

2020 - 2022 they will be paying the amounts below annually. 

 

Manny Machado about 30M (not sure exactly how the contract is built yet)

Wil Myers 22.5M (only making 5.5M in 2019)

Eric Hosmer 21M

 

73.5M total for 3 players on a team that usually spends about 90-110M. I would argue that these 3 seasons are "peak window" for them.  Better hope those good prospects pan out right out of the gate, especially on the starting pitching side.

[sweetmusicviola16]

 

At least it's not the White Sox...

This is a big break for the Twins, especially, of all of the Central teams.

[bighat]

 

2020 - 2022 they will be paying the amounts below annually. 

 

Manny Machado about 30M (not sure exactly how the contract is built yet)

Will Myers 22.5M (only making 5.5M in 2019)

Eric Hosmer 21M

 

73.5M total for 3 players on a team that usually spends about 90-110M. I would argue that these 3 seasons are "peak window" for them.  Better hope those good prospects pan out right out of the gate, especially on the starting pitching side.

 

Yeah, interesting to see how an also-ran, below-.500 club with a shaky core just went out and signed Manny to the biggest contract in the history of American sports. Looks like they weren't concerned about a "competition window", they just saw a great player and grabbed him. Good for San Diego.

[sweetmusicviola16]

 

2020 - 2022 they will be paying the amounts below annually. 

 

Manny Machado about 30M (not sure exactly how the contract is built yet)

Will Myers 22.5M (only making 5.5M in 2019)

Eric Hosmer 21M

 

73.5M total for 3 players on a team that usually spends about 90-110M. I would argue that these 3 seasons are "peak window" for them.  Better hope those good prospects pan out right out of the gate, especially on the starting pitching side.

Right now their SP is awful. They have some nice young guns in the pipeline. But we well know that some don't pan out and others have struggles before they solidify themselves. Myers and Hosmer are expensive baggage. I see just more struggles ahead for SD.

[puckstopper1]

Dang!     

 

With Sano's injured heal in a walking boot (not kidding) and soon to be amputated (kidding, of course - I hope) I was hoping the Twins would pull the trigger and get Manny...  (Kidding again, sort of)

[Taildragger8791]

So after the PR nightmare of a top free agent still being unsigned in spring training...the resolution was going to an underachieving organization where he'll likely be buried by mediocrity and obscurity? Sounds like the PR and marketing problems for MLB continue.

[Riverbrian]

I think it’s funny that Machado signed with a team that Yonder Alonso USED to play for.

 

#nicetrywhitesox

[SomeGuy]

 

Right now their SP is awful. They have some nice young guns in the pipeline. But we well know that some don't pan out and others have struggles before they solidify themselves. Myers and Hosmer are expensive baggage. I see just more struggles ahead for SD.

Yeah looking at the current depth chart on MLB.com  their most experienced pitcher of the starting 5 is Robbie Erlin with 257 innings and a 4.40 ERA. Five of the six listed as their starting rotation were rookies last season.  They might get Garret Richards back from Tommy John late this season.

 

I am familiar with Joey Lucchesi from fantasy leagues and prospect status, he is pretty good. But this seems like a really bad group unless they all make substantial strides. 

[SomeGuy]

 

 

So after the PR nightmare of a top free agent still being unsigned in spring training...the resolution was going to an underachieving organization where he'll likely be buried by mediocrity and obscurity? Sounds like the PR and marketing problems for MLB continue.

That underwhelming organization did offer him the most money and a record contract for American sports.  Doesn't seem like that much of a PR issue.

 

Bryce Harper has also reportedly turned down 2 contracts of this same value.  Doesn't seem like the issue of them still being free agents was the teams fault.

 

I'm predicting Manny's record contract is broken in the next few days.

[Taildragger8791]

That underwhelming organization did offer him the most money and a record contract for American sports. Doesn't seem like that much of a PR issue.

 

Bryce Harper has also reportedly turned down at least 2 contracts of this same value. Doesn't seem like the issue of them still being free agents was the teams fault.

I’m not even saying it’s any team’s fault. Just that baseball in general is having a lot of problems marketing themselves and their players. Having free agent fiascos like your top names be unsigned in spring training takes away from the positive press that should be surrounding this time of the year. Then to top it Machado goes to a market that typically is uncompetitive and an afterthought nationally. This is the league that can’t even market Trout in L.A....

[Danchat]

Well, we got what we wanted - one team finally caved in and overpaid him. They had better start gearing up to win soon and not spend the rest of his prime on a bad roster. They did lose 96 games last year...

 

I’ll assume Harper will demand more, and he’ll probably get it, but I’m not sure who will pay him it.

[SomeGuy]

 

I’m not even saying it’s any team’s fault. Just that baseball in general is having a lot of problems marketing themselves and their players. Having free agent fiascos like your top names be unsigned in spring training takes away from the positive press that should be surrounding this time of the year. Then to top it Machado goes to a market that typically is uncompetitive and an afterthought nationally. This is the league that can’t even market Trout in L.A....

Players like Machado should not be restricted to only the popular teams.  Machado to the Padres is not a problem for the league as a whole.  Competitive balance should always outweigh jersey sales. 

[nicksaviking]

 

Yeah, interesting to see how an also-ran, below-.500 club with a shaky core just went out and signed Manny to the biggest contract in the history of American sports. Looks like they weren't concerned about a "competition window", they just saw a great player and grabbed him. Good for San Diego.

 

I would have taken Machado here, but after their terrible Hosmer and Myers deals, I really questing that organization's decision making skills. Maybe third time's a charm.

[SomeGuy]

 

Yeah, interesting to see how an also-ran, below-.500 club with a shaky core just went out and signed Manny to the biggest contract in the history of American sports. Looks like they weren't concerned about a "competition window", they just saw a great player and grabbed him. Good for San Diego.

It will be interesting to see how the flexibility of the Twins compares with this set lineup over the next 5 or so years.  Two completely different strategies, I am probably leaning Twins since the Padres were already looking at overpays that will potentially be dead contracts before adding this 10 year deal.  They will likely be depending on their "shaky core" much more than we will.

[TheLeviathan]

But....but....they're a small market!  How can this be?

 

(What's our sarcasm font here?  We should establish that....)

[bird]

The Padres must be thinking they can avoid breaking the bank by just bringing up wave after wave of league-minimum elite prospects and re-stocking the pipeline by trading players bumping up against their perceived salary threshholds. It just might work. That farm system is obscenely good and unfathomably deep. I like their chances to pull this decision off.

[cmoss84]

With the Chargers no longer in San Diego, the Padres have a chance to gain some momentum-fan base wise. They are smart by doing this. Watch out-they might sign Harper also. Even if they do not make the playoffs (immediately), they are going to be fun to watch and put fans in the seats. Good for them!

[sweetmusicviola16]

 

The Padres must be thinking they can avoid breaking the bank by just bringing up wave after wave of league-minimum elite prospects and re-stocking the pipeline by trading players bumping up against their perceived salary threshholds. It just might work. That farm system is obscenely good and unfathomably deep. I like their chances to pull this decision off.

The problem is SD has been awfully run for years. Its not just the past either. The present GM has them on the hook for Hosmer and Myers. A cesspool of an org. GL Machado. LOL

[Vanimal46]

The problem is SD has been awfully run for years. Its not just the past either. The present GM has them on the hook for Hosmer and Myers. A cesspool of an org. GL Machado. LOL

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A cesspool of an org with the #1 farm system in baseball, and a desire to make headlines. I'll take that all day long in Minnesota.

[jkcarew]

Me-thinks towards the end there, the Padres bidded primarily against....themselves.

 

Also an I-told-you-so moment for those that said money trumps all. (Not me.) I thought the organization would matter some to him. But (other than the weather) this is among the lowest in the pecking order...small, actually ignored, market and historic ineptitude. Doesn't mean he can't lead a turn-around...but if he doesn't, the casual fan will not even see him for the next 8 years, except maybe at all-star games.

[nicksaviking]

 

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A cesspool of an org with the #1 farm system in baseball, and a desire to make headlines. I'll take that all day long in Minnesota.

 

I would have liked Machado, so that's a check mark in the Good column for SD as far as I'm concerned. 

 

But I agree with the previous poster both SD and the White Sox seem to make way more terrible decisions than good and don't appear to be great at this modern baseball stuff. I wouldn't trust either of those front offices to run my team, good intentions only get you so far. 

[howieramone2]

 

This is a big break for the Twins, especially, of all of the Central teams.

Anyone who has lived in Chicago, knew it was never going to happen. Reinsdorf is the only owner I know worst than the Pohlads. 

[jkcarew]

Nothing says "unfair labor practices" like a $300 million contract.

[gunnarthor]

Twins' fans should never forgive this FO for not getting involved in the Machado sweepstakes and letting freaking San Diego get him. Good lord. We could have signed him and still had a lower payroll than last year. 

[Nine of twelve]

 

Yeah, interesting to see how an also-ran, below-.500 club with a shaky core just went out and signed Manny to the biggest contract in the history of American sports. Looks like they weren't concerned about a "competition window", they just saw a great player and grabbed him. Good for San Diego.

We shall see if it was good for San Diego. That's some big money for them to be gambling. It sure wasn't good for the Angels to grab Pujols.

[Mike Sixel]

They drew the 18th most fans last year, on a bad team.... I'm not sure fans don't care. That's nearly median....

 

They have the number one farm system, so maybe things are better than they have been, I'm told that's how I should judge this FO.....

 

For the cost of Mauer and Kepler, they get one player that should produce double the WAR of any Twin, unless Buxton or Sano finally achieve stardom.

 

All the judging of this seems absurd to me. There is plenty of money, it's a great city, and they have a bright future...... That is now brighter.