h2oface Old-Timey Member Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 Well by that token Wilson's milb stats aren't hurting the Twins either.He's as capable as any baseball player of going on a fluky, unsustainable hot streak at the plate.So if we're only allowed to judge each player based on their current snapshot at the mlb level, then why are you ripping Wilson's bat? Nevermind. I really don't care that much. The options are not pleasing. Sell it if you want.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 Castro is the Twins best catcher. Not having him hurts.
howieramone2 Verified Member Posted May 8, 2018 Posted May 8, 2018 Since 2013, only one catcher has played more innings than Castro.
cmoss84 Verified Member Posted May 8, 2018 Posted May 8, 2018 Is it just me, or did Wilson look better than Castro and Garver last night? Have our catchers been THAT bad so far?
h2oface Old-Timey Member Posted May 11, 2018 Posted May 11, 2018 Ramos can hit and catch. Oh, that's right, we already wasted him for Matt Capps.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted May 11, 2018 Posted May 11, 2018 Ramos can hit and catch. Oh, that's right, we already wasted him for Matt Capps.Two front offices ago. So long ago that Ramos has already gone into free agency. Time to stop beating that horse. It's been dead for half a decade.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted May 11, 2018 Posted May 11, 2018 I grow less and less impressed with Garver every week. And I didn't start out with a very high opinion. Hurry back Castro.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted May 11, 2018 Posted May 11, 2018 Castro is below replacement so far this year, and that does not take into account the Twins pitchers' ERA is nearly 2 full runs worse when they pitch to Castro than the other guys. I don't mind him making outs when he bats, but Castro needs to be markedly better in the other areas when he returns.
h2oface Old-Timey Member Posted May 12, 2018 Posted May 12, 2018 I grow less and less impressed with Garver every week. And I didn't start out with a very high opinion. Hurry back Castro. It is sad that Castro is someone we miss. He has created so many wild pitches that should have been caught or blocked that I have a hard time missing him, and wish for a catcher other than him. And when he doesn't hit at all, it gets even worse. Garver sure has made some bonehead plays, I agree, especially that play up the line where he didn't just pick up the ball and get the tag or force out instead of doing nothing and letting the run score and runner be safe at first. Right up there with Granite at Dodger Stadium.
h2oface Old-Timey Member Posted May 12, 2018 Posted May 12, 2018 Two front offices ago. So long ago that Ramos has already gone into free agency. Time to stop beating that horse. It's been dead for half a decade. Seems my first response with the same tone was deleted with no explanation or notice. Hmmmmmm Ramos will be available to come home this season as a rental, or at the end of the season as a free agent. That horse is alive and very well. And Castro would be a great backup.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted May 13, 2018 Posted May 13, 2018 Berardino reporting that Castro is headed to Colorado for a second opinion on his knee. From a purely speculative point of view, this sounds like it could be a long term injury.
Mill1634 Verified Member Posted May 13, 2018 Author Posted May 13, 2018 Twins are not bringing in a catcher now, st the deadline, or next season. Castro is the front offices guy, as he was there first signing I think. Garver is more than capable as a backup. The Ramos horse, is in fact, dead.
jorgenswest Verified Member Posted May 13, 2018 Posted May 13, 2018 On the other hand, the first signing might indicate the high priority the front office puts on the catcher position. If age or injury prevents Castro from playing at his prior level of defense, they may be motivated to look for an alternative.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted May 13, 2018 Posted May 13, 2018 Twins are not bringing in a catcher now, st the deadline, or next season. Castro is the front offices guy, as he was there first signing I think. Garver is more than capable as a backup. The Ramos horse, is in fact, dead.Not sure about that. Should Castro need season ending surgery, he'd be almost 32 when he recovers, and Garver becomes the starter, with Wilson the back up. I wouldn't be surprised to see them take a look at catchers, though not necessarily Ramos- payroll is probably pretty much maxed out at this point.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted May 13, 2018 Posted May 13, 2018 Not sure about that. Should Castro need season ending surgery, he'd be almost 32 when he recovers, and Garver becomes the starter, with Wilson the back up. I wouldn't be surprised to see them take a look at catchers, though not necessarily Ramos- payroll is probably pretty much maxed out at this point.Payroll isn’t maxed next season. The team has a boatload of money coming off the books. But I agree it’s unlikely they target Ramos.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted May 13, 2018 Posted May 13, 2018 Payroll isn’t maxed next season. The team has a boatload of money coming off the books. But I agree it’s unlikely they target Ramos.I meant this year, at the deadline.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted May 13, 2018 Posted May 13, 2018 I'd rather target Realmuto anyway. (If, in the unlikely case, we were targeting a catching upgrade)
Kelly Vance Verified Member Posted May 13, 2018 Posted May 13, 2018 Happy for Garver, who seems to have quieted his critics -- at least for now.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted May 13, 2018 Posted May 13, 2018 I meant this year, at the deadline.Ah, yes. Hard to say there. I didn't expect Lynn but if ownership sees a window, I wouldn't rule out some additions, provided they're not outrageously expensive.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 Ugh Castro out another 4 to 6 weeks with surgery.
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 Ugh Castro out another 4 to 6 weeks with surgery. Not sure if I like the idea of Wilson being on the roster for another 4 to 6 weeks. Maybe they could scoop someone off the DFA scrap pile to back up Garver?
kab21 Verified Member Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 This is an example of why you stick a prospect (with options) in AAA to start the season and sign a backup like Gimenez. Part of me is really happy that Garver made the roster on opening dayand has been getting some AB's to prove if he is a long term roster option but the other part would be less concerned if they could call up a catcher of Garver's level from AAA.
bighat Verified Member Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 This is an example of why you stick a prospect (with options) in AAA to start the season and sign a backup like Gimenez. Bobby Wilson IS this year's Chris Gimenez. Wilson's okay, but I'm not sure he's the type of guy you want playing twice a week for the next 2 months. Not sure what the Twins can do. They don't have any other catchers on the 40-man. Here's what's in Rochester, per the interwebz: Wynston SawyerWilson AstudilloJordon Pacheco I dunno.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 Bobby Wilson IS this year's Chris Gimenez. Wilson's okay, but I'm not sure he's the type of guy you want playing twice a week for the next 2 months. Not sure what the Twins can do. They don't have any other catchers on the 40-man. Here's what's in Rochester, per the interwebz: Wynston SawyerWilson AstudilloJordon Pacheco I dunno.Correct. Only this time, they had the, maybe, better player in Minnesota, not Rochester. I'd rather have Castro and Garver, then Garver and Wilson, than Castro and Wilson first....
ThejacKmp Provisional Member Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 Might not be the worst idea to see what the Cubs want for Gimenez. Great clubhouse guy, knows the pitchers, not great with the bat but better than Wilson. I can't think the Cubs would stand in his way of getting some more MLB playing time, you could get him for a song.
ThejacKmp Provisional Member Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 That said, it's always possible that Wilson gets hot for 2-3 weeks and makes this palatable.
ThejacKmp Provisional Member Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 Wynston SawyerWilson AstudilloJordon Pacheco I dunno. Willians Astudillo
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 Do what real teams do, find someone that will actually make a difference. Get on the phone with Miami and cash in some of the minor league talent I keep reading about for J T Realmuto. Realmuto and Castro, with Garver as a 3rd C, RH DH, RH PHer, and RH hitting 5th OFer.
jud6312 Verified Member Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 That said, it's always possible that Wilson gets hot for 2-3 weeks and makes this palatable.It's also possible that I sprout a vestigial tail. Neither is overly likely, but given what I've seen from Wilson's swing, my money is on the tail.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 That said, it's always possible that Wilson gets hot for 2-3 weeks and makes this palatable.Wilson already had his hot streak. He got a hit.
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