Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 except none of those guys you listed for the Twins sat top 2 for 3 years straight years, and I'm not sure any of them have to prove anything, at least not nationally. As far as prospect ranks go, the players have to prove nothing. The ones who do the rankings have to prove that they did a decent job. Buxton did not rank himself number 1. Others did, and they are the ones who need to prove themselves "correct".
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted February 14, 2017 Posted February 14, 2017 From the BA top 100 chat: Tiny Lister (Compton, CA): Who was the guy that didn't make the top 100 consensus, but that you fought the hardest for inclusion?Matt Eddy: Some of my picks to click who didn’t make the Top 100 were Brock Stewart (Dodgers) and Scott Kingery and Roman Quinn (Phillies). Some others with carrying tools who deserve mention: Padres 2B Luis Urias (hit), Reds OF Aristides Aquino (power), Cardinals OF Magneuris Sierra (speed, defense), Twins RHP Fernando Rodney (power stuff, plus control) and potential power-speed outfielders Desmond Lindsay (Mets) and Jesus Sanchez (Rays). That "Fernando Rodney" has to be a Freudian slip describing Fernando Romero.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 EbenezerBatflip12:29 Who is the second best team in the AL Central? Seems like after CLE, there is a giant dropoff and lots of question marks. Will anyone in the ALC give CLE any kind of challenge? Dave Cameron12:29 I'll take DET out of the next group.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 15, 2017 Author Posted February 15, 2017 Gibson is first on the list. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/who-could-drop-their-arm-slot-for-more-success/
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 MB2:39 Speaking of Sano - do you believe some of his struggles can be attributed to him being "too selective" at the plate ? Dan Szymborski2:39 No, I don't think he's in the Hermida Zone.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 ouch: :42baby bull: Which AL Central 3B has best year, Jose Ramirez, Miguel Sano, Moustakas? 9:42Paul Swydan: I hope it’s Sano, but I’ll say Ramirez.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 1:03Sam: Zips has Miguel Sano projected for .235/.324/.471 with 26 HR’s. I must be greatly overrating Sano, because I think this seems very low for him. Do you forsee a Sano breakout, or are the Zips about right in your eyes? 1:03Travis Sawchik: I foresee 35 HRs, with health, and .820ish OPS
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 Hank12:15 Which Twins player do you believe will have a better 2017: Miguel Sano or Byron Buxton? Eno Sarris12:15 Sano. Although what's the judging factor. By wRC+, easily Sano, so easily. By WAR, dunno, Buxton will be a good defender. Husk12:17 If I'm looking to target a few teams that will be the first to switch closers this year, am I right to target TEX and MIN? Eno Sarris12:20 Minny for sure, but Dyson has a really high floor with that Britton-esque sinker. I think Rockies could be in flux, depending on Holland's velo when he comes back, Nationals obviously, Athletics, Marlins maybe, Brewers. Dbacks, Phils, Angels. Last two probably first on the list with Minny.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 baby bull12:26 What will Miguel Sano's career low k% be (excluding 2014's 0%)? Eno Sarris12:26 28% in peak year.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 Joe12:46 Have we gone overboard in the pitch frame statistic? I mean Jason Castro has a $24 million deal from MIN, but Wieters can't get a sniff of a contract? I understand he might have been looking for a lot of money initially, but this is getting out of hand. All because he's considered a bad pitch framer? There is no comparison between him and Castro yet pitch framing is winning the day? Makes no sense. Eno Sarris12:46 Think about how many pitches a catcher frames vs how many he gets to swing at.
Willihammer Provisional Member Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 Gibson is first on the list.http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/who-could-drop-their-arm-slot-for-more-success/You can really see the high release point on Wetmore's story today.http://www.1500espn.com/twins-2/2017/02/wetmores-5-thoughts-twins-position-battles-watch-spring-training/I wonder who could possibly be coaching him to throw from such a high arm slot?
Pardon My Dinger Verified Member Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 Eno Sarris12:46 Think about how many pitches a catcher frames vs how many he gets to swing at.Yeah...it's still cheating, though.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 Joe1:15 Castro is an auto out in the lineup though. And there's no evidence that his pitch framing ability will translate to more than a win or two as long as MIN has marginal pitching talent. So that's worth $24 million? That makes zero sense. I could understand if he could get the bat on the ball occasionally, but he's a consistent .210 hitter. Pitch framing is a skill, but it can't be your only skill. Eno Sarris1:16 Batting average? Castro is 6% worse than league average for his career, which is above-average with the stick for a catcher. Last three years he's been about average for a catcher with the stick.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 Yeah, I totally get the poster's point in that question but Castro isn't a great example. He's not terrible with the stick, just average or slightly below average. And it's not like $24m is a king's ransom in 2017. I mean, if you pay all 25 players on your roster $8m a season, that's only a $200m payroll.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 I don't think people realize how bad hitting is for catchers in baseball right now. It's a huge part of what made Mauer so damn valuable, even if he wasn't slugging like a mad man.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 I don't think people realize how bad hitting is for catchers in baseball right now. It's a huge part of what made Mauer so damn valuable, even if he wasn't slugging like a mad man. I don't think people realize how low BA is for the entire pool of MLB hitters right now.....but yes, catcher hitting is pretty bad right now.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 Over the last three years Castro still took a 3rd of his PA against lefties. He is just so, so bad against them. Hopefully Garver can somehow find his way to the MLB team allowing Castro to be a five-games-a-week catcher or a strict platoon. Castro is just fine against righties.
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 Joe1:15 Castro is an auto out in the lineup though. And there's no evidence that his pitch framing ability will translate to more than a win or two as long as MIN has marginal pitching talent. So that's worth $24 million? That makes zero sense. I could understand if he could get the bat on the ball occasionally, but he's a consistent .210 hitter. Pitch framing is a skill, but it can't be your only skill. Eno Sarris1:16 Batting average? Castro is 6% worse than league average for his career, which is above-average with the stick for a catcher. Last three years he's been about average for a catcher with the stick. I hope that isn't Joe Mauer asking that question!!!
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 Over the last three years Castro still took a 3rd of his PA against lefties. He is just so, so bad against them. Hopefully Garver can somehow find his way to the MLB team allowing Castro to be a five-games-a-week catcher or a strict platoon. Castro is just fine against righties.John Ryan Murphy may be able to fill that role as well. His career OPS against lefties is .691, or about 130 points higher than his OPS against righties.
Guest Guests Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 "unfortunately it all came crashing down with a major-league worst 59-103 record, which was the worst in Minnesota Twins history (based on W-L%)."By what metric are they suggesting it might NOT have been the worst in Twins' History?Well, let's see. There was the year Calvin got good and liquored up and gave an asinine speech to the Waseca Lions Club. Now that was a horrible season, regardless of record. And then there was the day Kirby woke up blind in one eye, which pretty much made the whole year a big downer. But other than those two, yes, last year may have been the pits for this franchise.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 Can Jose Berrios be a 2-3 starter or is his fastball too flat as some have asserted? KLAW:As *I* have asserted, you mean. I don't think he's ever going to be a 2.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 Wager No. 2Contestant A: CameronMetric: Brian Dozier’s WAR minus Logan Forsythe’s WAR.Over/Under: 0.5Contestant B: CistulliChooses: Over
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 Jaff9:15 If you could fix a super hyped prospect that failed at the major leagues who would it be? What would you fix? Jeff Sullivan9:16 I'd fix Byron Buxton's ability to make contact. If Buxton could show he could hit the ball consistently, it's so easy to see him as another CF superstarIt's weird that it's 2017 and I'm more excited about Keon Broxton
Taildragger8791 Verified Member Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 Can Jose Berrios be a 2-3 starter or is his fastball too flat as some have asserted? KLAW:As *I* have asserted, you mean. I don't think he's ever going to be a 2. Apparently KLAW really wants that credit for predicting Berrios' eventual failure.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 Apparently KLAW really wants that credit for predicting Berrios' eventual failure. I did find that odd....but he is/was by far the low guy on him, from what I can tell.
Pardon My Dinger Verified Member Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 Apparently KLAW really wants that credit for predicting Berrios' eventual failure.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted February 17, 2017 Posted February 17, 2017 I don't think it's that odd. If anything, I believe Law was trying to point out that he's the low man on Berrios.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 Noah10:05 Do you think Miguel Sano can stick at 3B? Jeff Sullivan10:05 For a few years
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 Noah10:27 Are you surprised by the Twins lack of moves this offseason, considering the regime change? Is this a result of Falvey and Levine not knowing what they have in terms of assets? Jeff Sullivan10:28 I think they would've liked to move Dozier, but outside of that, there are already a lot of internal pieces that need some more time. The team wasn't in position to shake things up too much. I was surprised by the Park move, but I do get it
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 17, 2017 Author Posted February 17, 2017 mike sixel10:50 Will I ever be able to go golfing again, or does the rain never stop here? As for the Twins, odds the SP is not one of the five worst staffs this year? Jeff Sullivan10:50 July through the middle of September are amazing!Except lately Augusts have been too hotsorry10:51 I think the Twins can make it into the 20 - 25 range. Having a pitch-framer, at last, is going to help themGranted, that would be value from the catcher, not the pitching staff, but we'll still be talking better K's and fewer walks
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