Arbitration Agreement Deadline: 4 Interesting Wrinkles for the Twins

A little disappointed they didn't give Jeffers a long-term contract to buy out arbitration.

With these arb players signed, what is the payroll at now? Any room to left to add to the payroll? Seems strange the TV deal hasn’t been worked out yet. 

54 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

A little disappointed they didn't give Jeffers a long-term contract to buy out arbitration.

I think the TV revenue limbo the Twins are in make it hard to fill out the future player salary projection spreadsheets.

Isn’t Gordon repped by ROC Nation?  They may be the ones advising their client on the value they think he is worth.  But 1.25 million is a loser as the projection model has him at 1 million so the 900k is going to win and Gordon’s pride is going to get busted if he doesn’t settle.  
 

Also like the two options for Farmer with Farmer the Twins can either have him back for next year at a predetermined price or save 250,000 if Farmer opts out and if they decide to get rid of him they pay that 250,000.  and Alcala.  It’s going to help keep costs down next year.  I love the nickel and diming.

If the Twins settle a contract with Gordon pre arbitration hearing is he guaranteed that $.  
 

If Twins decide to not add him to the 26 man roster after ST  and he is outright with no options what is guaranteed and does that change is they settle or if they go through the arb process?

With the current Twins roster or if they add a CF I’m 50/50 on Gordon making the team.  I don’t see his value unless he is platooning with Castro or Buxtonin CF.  

1 hour ago, sampleSizeOfOne said:

I am curious how mutual options get exercised. Is there a required order: does the team have to decide first to bring them back? Or does the player?

(I keep trying to decide which way it should go, but between describing a base salary assuming player decides no to come back, a team buy out, they kinda imply differing order, and in the case neither wants the second year, without and order it'd feel like a weird staring contest over that buy out money.

And how does that work if the player gets traded?

 

I believe its club first/player 2nd. Contract terms don’t change if a trade occurs. 

8 hours ago, AceWrigley said:

I think the TV revenue limbo the Twins are in make it hard to fill out the future player salary projection spreadsheets.

Jeffers is not going to break the bank.

MLB makes over $10.5B in revenue. 48% of local revenue and 100% of national revenue is shared among all 30 teams. There is shared revenue of at least $200M into the foreseeable future. Target Field has never drawn less than 1.8M fans outside of a pandemic year. The Twins will have revenues over $250M even if they decide to make TV broadcasts free on their website.

I am really tired of the local TV contract becoming the excuse for everything.

9 hours ago, DJL44 said:

A little disappointed they didn't give Jeffers a long-term contract to buy out arbitration.

I hope this is an area they work on during the season, I really like Jeffers.

33 minutes ago, LewFordLives said:

I can't believe they'd go to arbitration with Gordon over such a small amount. I gotta think they'll work something out.

As far as Alcala, I don't understand why he'd agree to that.  He's basically getting league minimum and giving away any leverage for next year. Wouldn't he have been better off just going to arbitration and letting the chips fall where they may?

it's 50% of a league minimum player, and Last year Gordon was -100% a league minimum player, so I kinda see the Twins side. I wouldn't go to Arb over it, but I also wouldn't have tendered a contract to Gordon and instead tried for a MiLB deal with him. I'm guessing his representation is saying go to a hearing rather than settle at the midpoint. 

The lack of a TV deal does hurt.  However, many other teams are signing players and free agents.  The Twins, I realize, are one of the few teams that don't have a deal and this bankruptcy thing with Diamond sports keeps getting postponed.  But it gives the Twins a crutch for not spending money.

One silver lining, Nick Gordon is more likely to pass through waivers at $1.25M than at $900k. It would make him easier to stash in St. Paul.

With Castro and Martin also ready to make a splash (and bat leadoff, hit 285 with 25 SB, play CF, I predict)

Gordon is redundant and may not even make the roster. 

Farmer - yay! Finally a smart move.

Alcala is just a reminder of Ryan Pressley's record breaking run and 2 WS with Houston. So far a terrible trade.

If they are so worried about payroll, even though it sounds like they will still have plenty of revenue,  then dump Polanco & Kepler -for at least some bullpen help or a RH bat in LF.

They are also redundant and cost $18M more than Wall er, Julien & Lee combined.

10 minutes ago, KBJ1 said:

With Castro and Martin also ready to make a splash (and bat leadoff, hit 285 with 25 SB, play CF, I predict)

Stevenson was excellent in the AAA League also.

23 minutes ago, KBJ1 said:

Alcala is just a reminder of Ryan Pressley's record breaking run and 2 WS with Houston. So far a terrible trade.

The Twins weren't going to give Pressly a high dollar contract extension.

I'm hoping the Twins talk more with Jeffers in spring training.

Gordon, like Alcala, are lucky they aren't seeking minor league split contracts. I'm not sure how badly any team would wish to carry them on the 40-man if requried to open the season with them. Like Farmer, Alcala having the lower option that what he "might" get in arbitration is a plus if either become valuable enough to be a trade piece.

So the Twins get four arbitation trips with Kirilloff, right?

Will it be the same when Lewis enters arbitration next year?