diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Don't have a catchy nickname for Carrol like Butera, but given the return for Butera, I nice snarky poll is just what we need to pry Ventura away from Dayton Moore.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted August 14, 2013 Author Posted August 14, 2013 I voted for a relief pitching prospect for Butera. That obviously was low. Assuming a similar return, I'd guess Sam Selman or maybe Orlando Calixte, but that seems like a high price to pay for Carroll. Either way, this might be fun.
Kwak Verified Member Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 It was reported that the PTBNL is CASH$$$. But maybe only 20K.
James Verified Member Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 It was reported that the PTBNL is CASH$$$. But maybe only 20K.Where did you see this? I've only seen PTBNL or cash. I would have thought that they would get a player out of it, but I'm not sure how great that player will be. I voted for org filler, but I hope they at least get some sort of pitching prospect, relief or otherwise. I wouldn't expect Dayton Moore to overpay, at least not as much as Ned Colletti seems to have done with Butera.
MichiganTwins Verified Member Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Cash considerations= just enough to pay for a six pack for the FO
Boom Boom Verified Member Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 I didn't find "Burger King coupons" anywhere as an option.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 My vote is for cash considerations, but it's more fun to try to find a player. My player pick is Everett Teaford a left handed swingman who would take on Duensing's role but is not yet arbitration eligible. Not sure what will happen with Duensing, but I'll bet this offseason the Twins will be looking to move him. Maybe even release him.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted August 14, 2013 Author Posted August 14, 2013 I didn't find "Burger King coupons" anywhere as an option. Only had 10 options, and I'm pretty sure I'd get banned for leaving off the Ralley Monkey.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 My vote is for cash considerations, but it's more fun to try to find a player. My player pick is Everett Teaford a left handed swingman who would take on Duensing's role but is not yet arbitration eligible. Not sure what will happen with Duensing, but I'll bet this offseason the Twins will be looking to move him. Maybe even release him. I don't see that happening. Given Ryan's track record, he'd much rather pick up someone in the low minors and the Twins already have a potential Duensing Redux in Pedro Hernandez.
Kwak Verified Member Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Where did you see this? I've only seen PTBNL or cash. I would have thought that they would get a player out of it, but I'm not sure how great that player will be. I voted for org filler, but I hope they at least get some sort of pitching prospect, relief or otherwise. I wouldn't expect Dayton Moore to overpay, at least not as much as Ned Colletti seems to have done with Butera. It was in the Sports section of the Mpls tribune.
AlwaysinModeration Verified Member Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 I suppose even post-hype John Lamb would be a pipedream? How about Christian Colon...is that feasible?
ScottyB Verified Member Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 I'm guessing Kyle Zimmer, Sean Manaea or Hunter Dozier (so we can have Dozier and Dozier up the middle). After all - Carroll is worth more than Butera.
cmathewson Provisional Member Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 It was reported that the PTBNL is CASH$$$. But maybe only 20K. LEN III predicted it would just be cash. But he had no supporting evidence. And he gave no specific number. So, I call BS.
cmathewson Provisional Member Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 I'm guessing Kyle Zimmer, Sean Manaea or Hunter Dozier (so we can have Dozier and Dozier up the middle). After all - Carroll is worth more than Butera. Manaea would be awesome, but he can't be traded until next June.
Major League Ready Verified Member Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 I don't expect much. I would like to think part of this was pure respect for the pro that is Jamey Carroll. He seems to have the makings of a great coach and I would like to see him back with the organization when he is done playing. Hopefully, the roster spot will be used creatively and I would be thrilled with an A baller with the potential to be a ML level player similar to the Butera trade. However, I have a sense it will be cash or an organizational filler. I think the Twins made this move for three reasons. Not necessarily in this order. 1. Open a roster spot. 2. Financial considerations 3. Respect - Give Mr. Carroll an opportunity at post season play in what is likely his final year.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 I don't see that happening. Given Ryan's track record, he'd much rather pick up someone in the low minors and the Twins already have a potential Duensing Redux in Pedro Hernandez. I'd prefer the low minors as well. Pedro Hernandez was actually my insperation for my search of a AAAA pitcher. I disliked the waste of a 40-man roster spot last year and I would also dislike the waste of the 40-man roster spot this year.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 I suppose even post-hype John Lamb would be a pipedream? How about Christian Colon...is that feasible?Lamb was just promoted to AAA so that might be a really good get.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 He was already traded for cash...
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 I'll go with the future Punto/E. Escobar.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted August 17, 2013 Author Posted August 17, 2013 I wonder if this had any bearing into the Carroll trade. It might mean that KC was desperate too.
IdahoPilgrim Provisional Member Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 I wonder if this had any bearing into the Carroll trade. It might mean that KC was desperate too. I hope it did - might mean we actually got something, if they were more motivated to do a deal than we were.
darin617 Verified Member Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 I know for a fact that I have breaking news on who the Twins will be receiving for Carroll. The Twins will not be getting cash in the deal they will be acquiring another infielder in return for Carroll. The PTBNL is Miguel Tejada...
Pius Jefferson Verified Member Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 I'll go with future Nebraska QB Bubba Starling.
Thegrin Verified Member Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 Luke Hochevar - They've run out of patience
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted August 18, 2013 Author Posted August 18, 2013 I know for a fact that I have breaking news on who the Twins will be receiving for Carroll. The Twins will not be getting cash in the deal they will be acquiring another infielder in return for Carroll. The PTBNL is Miguel Tejada... I'm guessing this is sarcasm. No reason TR would do that deal.
Monkeypaws Verified Member Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 I an not gonna let the unexpected Butera return lead me to think that's the new normal. Org filler or cash.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted August 18, 2013 Author Posted August 18, 2013 Luke Hochevar - They've run out of patience That might be one of those diamonds in the rough that Levi was talking about taking. Flip side though is that he's 29 and will be a FA soon.
Guest USAFChief Guests Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 I'm guessing "the Carroll Return" occurs during spring training, 2014, after TR signs him as a free agent.
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