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With potentially  5 teams needing a catcher the Twins should be able to get surplus value in trading Jeffers. If a prospect needs to be added to get 3-4 years of a starting pitcher you do that deal every day. Starting pitching is still my biggest concern in the next competitive window. 

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59 minutes ago, ashbury said:

If they're interested in Jeffers then they are going for it, and then why would they trade away the starting pitcher giving them the second most b-r value this season, who I believe isn't even eligible for arbitration yet?

They would be willing to trade him if they see this season as an anomaly.  If the return is what they are looking for he will be traded. I doubt that it would be for a rental and garbage 

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Garver and Jeffers in Seattle. That would be bizarre.

BTW, I've always considered trading prospects for established players the domain of the baseball haves, NYY, LAD, Boston, Philadelphia, Mets, etc.

The Twins are in no position either on the field, or in the bank account, to give up potential cost controlled players, some of whom might be really good, at this point. 

If it's a baseball trade of equivalents, then maybe.

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My answer, unfortunately, is both YES and NO.

But let me explain my ambiguity. 

I've always believed 2026 was a retooling season. We've started to see that with a number of young arms debuting and getting their feet wet. And I'm still hoping we get Raya back soon...throwing the way he was...and CJ Culpepper at some point in the pen as well. Unfortunately, Abel and Festa are done for the year. (Fingers tightly crossed there is a FIX for his injury).

On the position player side, things have been murky. Injuries have delayed Roden, Jenkins, Rodriguez, and K-Pepper, though Roden is up now, and we might still see Jenkins and Rodriguez as well. KC should still debut at some point and get his feet wet for 2027. And I don't think Gonzalez and Mendez are very far behind. And so far, Houston looks to be at least a decent/solid hitter with an amazing glove that MIGHT be ready in 2027 as well.

So I'm having a really hard time trading the TOP prospects of Jenkins, Rodriguez, KC, and Houston at this point. I want so much to see an INF of Lee, Houston, K-Pepper, with Lewis probably at 1B.

And Buxton is still at the top of his game even at 85-90% and isn't going anywhere. And I've been damn impressed with Keaschall in the OF, the potential he's shown there, and his offense has been damn good since May, even though I'd still like to see a little more pop/power.

BUT, the Keaschall move to the OF further changes the OF situation of talented prospect depth. There's not room for EVERYONE, and that gives you room for trade options right there.

So then I say YES that they have the ability to make a significant trade, but I just don't want to touch those top 5. If I HAD to pick one, it might be Rodriguez only because you'd be "betting" he might not reach his potential. But that's a very scary bet to make.

But I believe Gonzalez and Mendez have some real value. I'm not certain that Rosario...killing it at AAA since his long awaited promotion...doesn't also have some value as part of a deal. And while I'm afraid we might end up regretting moving him in a deal, I can see a team really liking to have Winokur in a deal.

The Twins drafted a lot of interesting arms in 2025. Unfortunately, most of them are either injured, or began the season injured and are still working their way back currently. But they also went pretty hard on some intriguing arms in this past draft, especially early, so by next season, we could see a slew of arms at both A levels, hopefully a couple at AA as well, to help replenish the system. So maybe moving Soto or Hill in a big deal isn't such a bad option?

And while I'm not interested in moving the young Tait, I can see him still being a valuable trade piece as well. Again, like Winokur and all the other possibilities listed, you may regret moving them one day. But you can't get something for nothing.

***Just a side note, if Jeffers was moved to someone like NY, LA, or BOS, I don't believe they would see him as a pure rental player. They would have the cache and cash to re-sign him with a deal the Twins simply can't, or won't. 

I like the idea of Hancock as presented by @chpettit19, or someone similar. I'd rather go the Jeffers, Mendez, Hill route for Hancock and a young RP and leave Rodriguez out of it. Maybe another top 20-30 throw in, or Wallner/Larnach if that gets it done?

Adding another quality SP to go along with Lopez, Ryan, Bradley, Abel, and Prielipp...MAYBE Ober...is a hell of a good looking rotation. Add one good looking BP arm and then maybe Matthews DOES switch to bullpen...especially with concerns about Festa...and you might really have something. The debate of what to do with Rojas in this configuration is a different topic for a different day.

So my answer is a convoluted YES and NO. I believe the system is deep enough to move some really talented young prospects without destroying the system. I just really want to stay away from the TOP 5.

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4 hours ago, Rufus said:

4 of he Twins top 14 prospects are catchers..  See what a Jeffers trade can bring.

Most likely it brings at least a year, if not two of pretending we can contend with Caratini & Jackson behind the dish until a youngster shows up and (hopefully) is ready to contribute to a contender right away.  

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1 hour ago, AlLagoon said:

Garver and Jeffers in Seattle. That would be bizarre.

BTW, I've always considered trading prospects for established players the domain of the baseball haves, NYY, LAD, Boston, Philadelphia, Mets, etc.

The Twins are in no position either on the field, or in the bank account, to give up potential cost controlled players, some of whom might be really good, at this point. 

If it's a baseball trade of equivalents, then maybe.

The pitcher from Seattle can't be a free agent until 31......

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Taking a look at the standings tonight, guess who else is competing for a wild card spot?

Yankees and Red Sox: oh, and the Guardians. 

Hovering within a game of the Twins in that race are Seattle, Houston, Baltimore.

Jeffers is the best chip to deal. 

I'd keep Ryan for now.

 

Posted
29 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

The pitcher from Seattle can't be a free agent until 31......

All in favor of baseball trades, like for like.

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3 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

Couldn't afford to do the Sonny Gray trade every year. Financially speaking. That's why you need cheap ceiling. I've been open to trading Emma for a couple years now. When they were in "win now" mode. I'm not so open to the idea of trading young guys now. Because I think the real window opens in 2028. And I don't subscribe to any idea that you ever have a surplus anywhere when you aren't in "win now" mode.

I don't care if the Twins have 8 OF prospects with a chance of being major leaguers, I'd still want a 9th and 10th. Don't care if they have 5 C prospects with a chance of being major leaguers, I'd still want a 6th and 7th. Playing the guessing game of which one will make it and which one won't is a dangerous game.

When you're in your window, I'm all for trading some prospects for major leaguers. I had no problem at all with the Mahle/Lopez deadline. But when you're working on opening your window, I want every last prospect I can get. If 6 OFers end up succeeding, then I'm in my new window and I trade a couple to fill other holes. It's all about where you're at in the cycle to me. And I don't think the Twins are in a part of the cycle that should include trading away ceiling. Unless you're getting something pretty impressive like 4 more years of Emerson Hancock.

Good way to look at it. I’m all for creating prospects for controllable pitching like Hancock. Otherwise, keep them and sort them out over the next 1.5 years until the real contention window opens. 

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