Twins (Abel) Vs White Sox (Martin): 8/23/25, 6:10 pm CDT

[karcherd]

1 minute ago, S Bart said:

How can they be committed to most of the castoff pitchers they have now? 

That's my point, if they were truly being aggressive and less risk averse, we would see guys up here from the minor leagues in the bullpen.  These castoffs are bad pitchers but have less risk and less upside.  They are only looking at the risk side of the equation.

[Parfigliano]

4 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

Happy Mick Abel day!

Maybe the bats can combine and get him a W.

[USAFChief]

2 minutes ago, S Bart said:

Considering Cain murdered Abel.. ..probably be bad vibes.

Lorenzo Cain?

Don't think they've ever faced each other 

[Parfigliano]

3 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

He can throw a wicked knuckleball with his claws! 

Bet he can really scuff up the ball

[Parfigliano]

2 hours ago, shortround81 said:

Chess.com? What an effing nerd

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/V2o2QpN6pCU

I'm a nerd.

[Squirrel]

10 minutes ago, S Bart said:

Considering Cain murdered Abel.. ..probably be bad vibes.

Except maybe Abel gets revenge 🙂

[USAFChief]

So some of you know I like to stop off pretty often at this little neighborhood bar for a beer or two.

I noticed this fellow, Irish I believe, would come in every day and order two shots. He'd sit quietly for a few seconds after the shots came, and then down both. 

I got curious so I asked him what was the deal? "Well," he said. "Me brother is back in Ireland and I miss the lad terribly, so each day I have a shot for him, and one for me. Helps me remember."

I thought that was pretty neat, and it went on for quite some time, until yesterday. He walked in, ordered only 1 shot, sat quietly for twice the normal time, then downed the single shot. 

"Friend," I said, almost afraid to ask. "Did something happen to your brother?"

"Oh no" he said, but very Somber. "Im afraid my doctor said I haffta give up drinkin"

[Dave Borton]

3 hours ago, T.O. said:

Lewis may have talent but I don't see him ever being a mature baseball player. He seems to be stuck in 9 year old mode.

Sound bites are nothing more than excerpts without context. Writers love to extract for clicks.

While I have fallen off the Royce Lewis wagon, the kid is more than two quotes. Still believe in his basic persona of positivity and would want him in my club house.

[Vanimal46]

Tough news for the Phillies and fans of great pitching… Who can remember the former Twins pitcher that had TOS surgery? 

[Patzky]

6 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

Happy Mick Abel day!

Tha first day of the rest of our season.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

2 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

Tough news for the Phillies and fans of great pitching… Who can remember the former Twins pitcher that had TOS surgery? 

Phil Hughes. Was he the only one?

having received successful PT for TOS, I feel for Wheeler. It’s excruciating! The PT is almost as bad as the pain from the nerve damage. Spreading your ribs with fingers and tools hurts really bad!

[SS MagicMark]

First Markelle Fultz and now Wheeler. Philly fans are going to be sick of TOS.

[Mike Sixel]

6 hours ago, Richie the Rally Goat said:

What gets measured gets results, and people respond to incentives.

Royce is going in to his first year of Arbitration. The stats are how the arbitration process gets settled.

I find the candor refreshing.

Except he's been awful for a year, and he refuses to change or take coaching. So it's not like he's getting a huge raise this way. 

[Richie the Rally Goat]

2 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Except he's been awful for a year, and he refuses to change or take coaching. So it's not like he's getting a huge raise this way. 

But will his raise be higher than if he alters his swing mid season? Motivations not outcomes.

i agree he’s sucked, but the tinkerers on the club have sucked too.

[Mike Sixel]

2 minutes ago, Richie the Rally Goat said:

But will his raise be higher than if he alters his swing mid season? Motivations not outcomes.

i agree he’s sucked, but the tinkerers on the club have sucked too.

In any event, if you won't take coaching, you likely aren't going to get better. Scottie Scheffler makes changes...... confident humans are willing to do so. 

[Patzky]

2 hours ago, USAFChief said:

Lorenzo Cain?

Don't think they've ever faced each other 

Matt Cain? At least cut from the same tablet.

[Patzky]

18 minutes ago, SS MagicMark said:

First Markelle Fultz and now Wheeler. Philly fans are going to be sick of TOS.

Genesis 5:25

[Chris Hove]

I will be in St. Paul to watch the Saints, so I will unfortunately miss Abel's Twins debut. 😮‍💨

Edited August 23, 2025 by Chris Hove

[LakesPibble]

17 minutes ago, Richie the Rally Goat said:

But will his raise be higher than if he alters his swing mid season? Motivations not outcomes.

i agree he’s sucked, but the tinkerers on the club have sucked too.

I've been thinking about this for a while.  Who has improved as a hitter on the Twins in the last 2 or 3 years?

I'm going to say nobody.  

[LakesPibble]

16 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

In any event, if you won't take coaching, you likely aren't going to get better. Scottie Scheffler makes changes...... confident humans are willing to do so. 

There was discussion about clubhouse culture recently, and of course none of us know what it's like.  But I don't think the idea of "You're a pro, just do your job" is realistic either.  I'm guessing some of us have jobs, and those workplaces have cultures.  Some are high energy, some are apathetic, some are negative, etc etc  It's very hard to change a culture, and sometimes it's very hard not to be affected by the culture.  

From the outside, it appears whatever the culture is in the clubhouse isn't working, because it doesn't seem that there is much improvement going on recently, at least among batters.

[Parfigliano]

28 minutes ago, LakesPibble said:

I've been thinking about this for a while.  Who has improved as a hitter on the Twins in the last 2 or 3 years?

I'm going to say nobody.  

Small sample size but their best hitter is Keaschall. The one with the least exposure to the MLB coaches/clubhouse.

You're right though nobody has gotten better.   Many regressed 

[mrtwinsfan]

1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said:

Tough news for the Phillies and fans of great pitching… Who can remember the former Twins pitcher that had TOS surgery? 

Phil Hughes , ?

[knothole61]

5 hours ago, shortround81 said:

Chess.com? What an effing nerd

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/V2o2QpN6pCU

That was fun. I hope this works out...fingers crossed.. 

[ziggy]

1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said:

Tough news for the Phillies and fans of great pitching… Who can remember the former Twins pitcher that had TOS surgery? 

Phil Hughes, and I think Johan Santana after he left the Twins.

[mrtwinsfan]

27 minutes ago, Parfigliano said:

Small sample size but their best hitter is Keaschall. The one with the least exposure to the MLB coaches/clubhouse.

You're right though nobody has gotten better.   Many regressed 

 Keaschall. --- hope they leave him alone !!!!!!!

[knothole61]

1 hour ago, Dave Borton said:

Sound bites are nothing more than excerpts without context. Writers love to extract for clicks.

While I have fallen off the Royce Lewis wagon, the kid is more than two quotes. Still believe in his basic persona of positivity and would want him in my club house.

Well put...

[CRF]

I hope Mick is ready, willing, and abel!

[Aggies7]

1 hour ago, LakesPibble said:

I've been thinking about this for a while.  Who has improved as a hitter on the Twins in the last 2 or 3 years?

I'm going to say nobody.  

The skor north podcast talked about this the other day. Hitters coming up, doing well and then not adjusting to the adjustments made by the league. Concerning that the coaches apparently can’t figure that out, there are certainly enough of them. They said a lot of players are looking for and not getting any direction. Or is it a certain philosophy that they aren’t allowed to diverge from? How can David popkins get canned here and now have a top 5 offense in AVG and OPS? Either way, with a ton of prospects currently doing well in the minors, it’s unnerving to think that no changes have been made in on/off field management/philosophy yet and it doesn’t seem like they’re coming. Will the new crop of prospects be ruined too as we continue to hold on to the management that hasn’t produced results?

[mrtwinsfan]

1st pitch-- getting stale  Byron

[mrtwinsfan]

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