Twins (Bullpen) Vs Yankees (Rodon): 8/12/25 6:05 pm CDT

[C-Gangster]

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/twins-vs-yankees/2025/08/12/776774/preview

Oh wow we lost yesterday what a shock!

[C-Gangster]

Sorry guys I could not get the image to work. I will try tomorrow.

[Mike Sixel]

Bullpen. Traded for Abel and Bradley and neither can start in the big leagues.....

[Brock Beauchamp]

2 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Bullpen. Traded for Abel and Bradley and neither can start in the big leagues.....

I think they probably could start in Minnesota, but the Twins targeted them for a reason, and I suspect they're working on new pitches, new grips, pitch selection, or all of the above.

[Mike Sixel]

Just now, Brock Beauchamp said:

I think they probably could start in Minnesota, but the Twins targeted them for a reason, and I suspect they're working on new pitches, new grips, pitch selection, or all of the above.

Let's just say I was not a fan. Also, work on it against the guys they actually need to get out. But they'll sit in AAA all year. Really want falvey gone. I'm salty this morning I guess. Could be the heat. Could be so the stuff. 

[yeahyabetcha]

1 minute ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I think they probably could start in Minnesota, but the Twins targeted them for a reason, and I suspect they're working on new pitches, new grips, pitch selection, or all of the above.

What??  They should be promoted immediately so Twins Daily can see “what they got”!

[Brock Beauchamp]

2 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Let's just say I was not a fan. Also, work on it against the guys they actually need to get out. But they'll sit in AAA all year. Really want falvey gone. I'm salty this morning I guess. Could be the heat. Could be so the stuff. 

I'm also not a fan of many of the deals (some were fine), but now that they're here, they should be handled appropriately so I'll be patient and see what comes of it.

[nicksaviking]

12 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I'm also not a fan of many of the deals (some were fine), but now that they're here, they should be handled appropriately so I'll be patient and see what comes of it.

I'd have just called up Andrew Morris to give him his perfunctory look at the rotation so they can start his inevitable Sands/Varland/Jax bullpen conversion next year.

[The Great Hambino]

14 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I think they probably could start in Minnesota, but the Twins targeted them for a reason, and I suspect they're working on new pitches, new grips, pitch selection, or all of the above.

If they really are working on things that can't be worked on in the majors for some reason, then fine.  But I feel like service time manipulation has some role in this decision, and if it does, that sucks.  

I know it's probably as likely as Rob Manfred and Bryce Harper enjoying a nice family vacation together, but I hope anything that disincentivizes teams from putting their 26 best available players on the active roster gets exterminated in the next CBA.   You don't hear about NFL teams keeping guys on the practice squad or NBA teams keeping guys in the G League to squeeze out more control on a technicality.  Anticompetitive behaviors like this have to go if players are ever going bend on a salary cap

[Mike Sixel]

9 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I'd have just called up Andrew Morris to give him his perfunctory look at the rotation so they can start his inevitable Sands/Varland/Jax bullpen conversion next year.

Also an option. 

[Mike Sixel]

5 minutes ago, The Great Hambino said:

If they really are working on things that can't be worked on in the majors for some reason, then fine.  But I feel like service time manipulation has some role in this decision, and if it does, that sucks.  

I know it's probably as likely as Rob Manfred and Bryce Harper enjoying a nice family vacation together, but I hope anything that disincentivizes teams from putting their 26 best available players on the active roster gets exterminated in the next CBA.   You don't hear about NFL teams keeping guys on the practice squad or NBA teams keeping guys in the G League to squeeze out more control on a technicality.  Anticompetitive behaviors like this have to go if players are ever going bend on a salary cap

Make free agency age related as a start. 26 or 28 or five years in the system, whichever comes first. I have zero interest in a cap. That just puts money in billionaires pockets. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

I mean, we can look this stuff up. Here is Abel's pitch mix.

Majors (Philly):

Minors (Twins): 

[ziggy]

I have an expectancy of losing today. No different than walking into a Las Vegas casino with a $100 bill and planning on winning a $1,000 or go bust. 

The Yankees are better than the Twins. Other than Buxton they are better in every position on the field. 

The Yankees are Macy's and the Twins are Target. The difference in quality is obvious.

 

I hope we win today........

[Brock Beauchamp]

12 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Make free agency age related as a start. 26 or 28 or five years in the system, whichever comes first. I have zero interest in a cap. That just puts money in billionaires pockets. 

There are so many solutions. A cap and floor, what you presented here, or even just starting arbitration in year two of a player's career. Lots of ways to make baseball better.

[The Great Hambino]

6 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Make free agency age related as a start. 26 or 28 or five years in the system, whichever comes first. I have zero interest in a cap. That just puts money in billionaires pockets. 

Yeah, pegging it to a fixed time period like Rule V eligibility is the most straightforward way I can think of to fix that issue.   I don't think I fully agree on the cap, because I think a floor is needed to create competitive balance as much as a cap (I think the Pirates of the world are as responsible for the competitive imbalance in baseball as the Dodgers - okay not as responsible, but definitely don't get the level of blame they deserve), and you don't get a floor without a cap

[Patzky]

23 minutes ago, ziggy said:

I have an expectancy of losing today. 

The Yankees are Macy's and the Twins are Target. The difference in quality is obvious.

We don't even have our Christian Dior coupon anymore..

[thelanges5]

Wallner returns, Pereda back to AAA. Gasper is the backup catcher 🤔

[Mike Sixel]

2 minutes ago, thelanges5 said:

Wallner returns, Pereda back to AAA. Gasper is the backup catcher 🤔

Mind. Boggling. 

[Vanimal46]

So our backup catcher is Gasper? God help us. 

[karcherd]

10 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Mind. Boggling. 

Gasper has more lives than a cat.

[nicksaviking]

Well I've never seen Gasper catch, but I've seen him hit. He's of no use to a major league club unless he unexpectedly CAN catch, so sure, go ahead and give it a try, this club has nothing to lose anyway.

[Mike Sixel]

1 minute ago, nicksaviking said:

Well I've never seen Gasper catch, but I've seen him hit. He's of no use to a major league club unless he unexpectedly CAN catch, so sure, go ahead and give it a try, this club has nothing to lose anyway.

How about using one of the actual catchers in AAA? That would be my preference. 

[IndianaTwin]

1 hour ago, nicksaviking said:

I'd have just called up Andrew Morris to give him his perfunctory look at the rotation so they can start his inevitable Sands/Varland/Jax bullpen conversion next year.

Do you mean the guy who made his first start since June 19 this past Saturday and threw only 31 pitches? That's not how rehab assignments are usually structured. 

[IndianaTwin]

16 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Well I've never seen Gasper catch, but I've seen him hit. He's of no use to a major league club unless he unexpectedly CAN catch, so sure, go ahead and give it a try, this club has nothing to lose anyway.

Agreed. I'm guessing we also see more back-to-backs from Jeffers until (if) Vazquez returns. 

[USAFChief]

On the other hand, glad Wallner is back. He's been taking much better ABs for a while now 

 

[nicksaviking]

17 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

How about using one of the actual catchers in AAA? That would be my preference. 

Since I want wholesale changes to the front office and coaching staff next year, honestly, I'm in favor of pretty much any move that makes them look foolish.

[Patzky]

31 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Well I've never seen Gasper catch, but I've seen him hit. He's of no use to a major league club unless he unexpectedly CAN catch, so sure, go ahead and give it a try, this club has nothing to lose anyway.

He caught Sunday. Did ok behind the plate but not so much with the throws.

[Patzky]

11 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

On the other hand, glad Wallner is back. He's been taking much better ABs for a while now 

 

Slugger's big daddy. We need a daddy in the Bronx. 

[Patzky]

36 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

So our backup catcher is Gasper? God help us. 

I wonder how life threatening the infection really was to Vasquez.. it's not to be trifled with.

[The Great Hambino]

12 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

On the other hand, glad Wallner is back. He's been taking much better ABs for a while now 

 

Plus, he should be launching balls onto the B ramp now that he has his Dad strength