Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted April 7, 2025 Posted April 7, 2025 This is something I’m interested in monitoring throughout the year. After years of pay walling their content on TV, many people who would be considered casual fans have found other things to do in the summer time. Other more diehard fans are pissed about the ownership situation and the continuation of not investing in the team. I’m not just talking about solely money. I’m talking about an unbalanced roster full of slow, poor defenders with bats that aren’t good enough to make up the difference. Here is where we stand after the first home stand… TheLeviathan and Schmoeman5 1 1
The Great Hambino Verified Member Posted April 7, 2025 Posted April 7, 2025 With St Peter out of the picture, who's going to be the one to tell me this is my fault? lecroy24fan, Original_JB, Vanimal46 and 4 others 7
Battle ur tail off Verified Member Posted April 7, 2025 Posted April 7, 2025 Well, you can't watch them on TV. Their players are soft as charmin and hurt all the time. Their manager uses a spreadsheet to run his pitching staff. A year after their best postseason showing in years they lose players and add none all while complaining about not having enough money, etc. Flat out, they are boring and uninspiring to watch. I haven't watched more than about 3 innings this year and I love Twins baseball. Ownership, management and coaching has made them un-watchable. Couple that with the fact that hardly anyone has any disposable income anymore and it's the perfect storm. This team is going to severely struggle getting fans to come out to game this year. I don't feel bad for them. It's just flat out not good ball to watch or root for. Tlaker, laloesch, GeorgeLooney and 1 other 3 1
Battle ur tail off Verified Member Posted April 7, 2025 Posted April 7, 2025 20 minutes ago, The Great Hambino said: With St Peter out of the picture, who's going to be the one to tell me this is my fault? Won't be long and one of the guys on the DL will let you know...😄 Dave Borton 1
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted April 7, 2025 Posted April 7, 2025 40 minutes ago, The Great Hambino said: With St Peter out of the picture, who's going to be the one to tell me this is my fault? I wish I could give this ten upvotes. The Great Hambino and lecroy24fan 2
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted April 7, 2025 Posted April 7, 2025 By the end of the month, it won’t matter. laloesch and Schmoeman5 1 1
Jocko87 Verified Member Posted April 7, 2025 Posted April 7, 2025 3 hours ago, The Great Hambino said: With St Peter out of the picture, who's going to be the one to tell me this is my fault?
Parfigliano Verified Member Posted April 7, 2025 Posted April 7, 2025 I predict attendance less then 1.58 million laloesch 1
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted April 15, 2025 Author Posted April 15, 2025 Tonight was a crappy night to be at Target Field. Real attendance was less than 5k laloesch 1
Parfigliano Verified Member Posted April 15, 2025 Posted April 15, 2025 8 hours ago, Vanimal46 said: Tonight was a crappy night to be at Target Field. Real attendance was less than 5k I was there. I'd say 4,000 tops. laloesch 1
Parfigliano Verified Member Posted April 15, 2025 Posted April 15, 2025 On 4/7/2025 at 2:06 PM, The Great Hambino said: With St Peter out of the picture, who's going to be the one to tell me this is my fault? It's your fault. Pay me TC.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted April 15, 2025 Posted April 15, 2025 I hope no one goes until they make real changes. Schmoeman5 1
Trov Verified Member Posted April 15, 2025 Posted April 15, 2025 The team is ranked, by ESPN, as one of the most unwatchable teams. Right now I fully agree. I love baseball and used to watch just about every game I could. This year though, with real life stuff going on, to go with the terrible product they are putting on the field is making them not really watchable. I got free tickets, great seats in a week, but outside of that I have little plan to go to any games and will not go out of my way to watch them. Their offense is terrible. Their defense is terrible. Their pitching is good overall, but when you cannot score any runs, like last September, it will not carry the day. Watching guys just make dumb mistakes over and over the few times I do watch just makes me not want to watch. Even when we lose if the game is entertaining I am okay, but watching the team get no hits with RISP and really no hits at all, mostly striking out. Sadly, there is no top guys knocking on the door right now to look forward too. Our stars are not doing anything either. I am hoping they can turn it around but dang this is getting crazy. Mike Sixel, GeorgeLooney and Vanimal46 3
laloesch Verified Member Posted April 15, 2025 Posted April 15, 2025 12 hours ago, Vanimal46 said: Tonight was a crappy night to be at Target Field. Real attendance was less than 5k With such low attendance and terrible play if the Pohlads are going to do anything they'd better do it quick, ie firing Rocco and or selling. The value of their product is plummeting fast. Not good for the asking price.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted April 15, 2025 Author Posted April 15, 2025 1 hour ago, Trov said: The team is ranked, by ESPN, as one of the most unwatchable teams. Right now I fully agree. I love baseball and used to watch just about every game I could. This year though, with real life stuff going on, to go with the terrible product they are putting on the field is making them not really watchable. I got free tickets, great seats in a week, but outside of that I have little plan to go to any games and will not go out of my way to watch them. Their offense is terrible. Their defense is terrible. Their pitching is good overall, but when you cannot score any runs, like last September, it will not carry the day. Watching guys just make dumb mistakes over and over the few times I do watch just makes me not want to watch. Even when we lose if the game is entertaining I am okay, but watching the team get no hits with RISP and really no hits at all, mostly striking out. Sadly, there is no top guys knocking on the door right now to look forward too. Our stars are not doing anything either. I am hoping they can turn it around but dang this is getting crazy. As Twins fans we have become accustomed to watching bad baseball over the last 15 years. I can tolerate it if we’re using the time wisely on young talent. The problem is this team is not young. We’re allocating 2/3rds of the lineup to guys that are 27-29 years old and still trying to establish themselves 3-5 years into their careers. For the past 2+ seasons it feels like our FO is at a loss what to do and keeps running it back with the same players. They got rug pulled by the Pohlads after 2023, but they still have options to shuffle this deck of players. Falvey has chosen to stand pat and hope for a mediocre 85 win season. Mike Sixel 1
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Author Posted April 28, 2025 Weather hasn’t been worse in April compared to last year. The Wild and Wolves were in the playoffs last year too. This is a notable 14% decline in tickets sold per game. Mike Sixel 1
Dave Borton Verified Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 47 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: Weather hasn’t been worse in April compared to last year. The Wild and Wolves were in the playoffs last year too. This is a notable 14% decline in tickets sold per game. I find myself listening to Tigers, Guards, Yanks, WSox (broadcasters), Cinci games more than Twins. Much has to do with Atteberry/ManFromGlad as well as the AAAA players fielded to complete the roster.
Parfigliano Verified Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said: Weather hasn’t been worse in April compared to last year. The Wild and Wolves were in the playoffs last year too. This is a notable 14% decline in tickets sold per game. My wife and I went to 3 games. We did our part.
The Great Hambino Verified Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 Took the family to Sunday's Angels game, and it wasn't as desolate as I expected. I even had to wait in a line or two! I was expecting a higher announced attendance than 18K But keeping the Tony O's stand closed is a crime against humanity that needs to be reported to MLB, and perhaps Hennepin County authorities as well. It was open on opening day; if they've been closing this regularly, then I think we've found the primary source of the attendance woes
Parfigliano Verified Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 Closed when we went to last 2 against Det and 1st against Mets.
bean5302 Verified Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 13 hours ago, Vanimal46 said: ...Weather hasn’t been worse in April compared to last year. The Wild and Wolves were in the playoffs last year too. This is a notable 14% decline in tickets sold per game. The weather was way better this year. Fans are apathetic like they haven't been since pre-contraction. We're sick of the Pohlads. We're sick of empty stadiums. We're sick of poor play. We're sick of watching a manager fumble the games away. We're sick of a front office obsessed with every cheap re-tread shiny object they see. We're sick of terrible marketing. We're sick of a team that caters to 4 year olds. We're sick of a team that distances the fans from the product. We're sick of paying for season tickets that are available at 1/2 to 1/3 face. We're sick of Delaware North. We're sick of $25 parking. We're sick of it all. NotAboutWinning, Jack, I Miss The Lakes and 2 others 5
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Author Posted April 28, 2025 39 minutes ago, bean5302 said: The weather was way better this year. Fans are apathetic like they haven't been since pre-contraction. We're sick of the Pohlads. We're sick of empty stadiums. We're sick of poor play. We're sick of watching a manager fumble the games away. We're sick of a front office obsessed with every cheap re-tread shiny object they see. We're sick of terrible marketing. We're sick of a team that caters to 4 year olds. We're sick of a team that distances the fans from the product. We're sick of paying for season tickets that are available at 1/2 to 1/3 face. We're sick of Delaware North. We're sick of $25 parking. We're sick of it all. Sad but true. The weather this weekend was great. I considered going to Target Field on Saturday and Sunday. I opened the Gleeman and the Geek sponsored ticketing app Gametime multiple times, and could have purchased pretty good seats for $25 or less. I decided to do other things instead, and caught a couple of innings on the radio. That’s basically where we are as a fan base.
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said: Sad but true. The weather this weekend was great. I considered going to Target Field on Saturday and Sunday. I opened the Gleeman and the Geek sponsored ticketing app Gametime multiple times, and could have purchased pretty good seats for $25 or less. I decided to do other things instead, and caught a couple of innings on the radio. That’s basically where we are as a fan base. So, pretty much the same way we are as citizens. Dave Borton 1
jaimedude Verified Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 3 hours ago, The Great Hambino said: Took the family to Sunday's Angels game, and it wasn't as desolate as I expected. I even had to wait in a line or two! I was expecting a higher announced attendance than 18K But keeping the Tony O's stand closed is a crime against humanity that needs to be reported to MLB, and perhaps Hennepin County authorities as well. It was open on opening day; if they've been closing this regularly, then I think we've found the primary source of the attendance woes I was at yesterday's game and tge first White Sox game. Not used to so few fans only on Vikings home games Sundays and bad weather days have I been where it is so empty. A lot of the food stands have been closed. Hard to staff when attendance low. They would improve attendence just announcing a tentative sales agreement I think.
bean5302 Verified Member Posted April 28, 2025 Posted April 28, 2025 1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said: Sad but true. The weather this weekend was great. I considered going to Target Field on Saturday and Sunday. I opened the Gleeman and the Geek sponsored ticketing app Gametime multiple times, and could have purchased pretty good seats for $25 or less. I decided to do other things instead, and caught a couple of innings on the radio. That’s basically where we are as a fan base. Literally could have gotten Club Level seats at $23 including fees on SeatGeek on a beautiful day when I looked on the 22nd. It was sunny and like 65*. $60-75/ea for the poor season ticket holder who owned them.
laloesch Verified Member Posted May 3, 2025 Posted May 3, 2025 On 4/28/2025 at 1:35 PM, jaimedude said: I was at yesterday's game and tge first White Sox game. Not used to so few fans only on Vikings home games Sundays and bad weather days have I been where it is so empty. A lot of the food stands have been closed. Hard to staff when attendance low. They would improve attendence just announcing a tentative sales agreement I think. That’s a bad sign and I can’t imagine the Poland’s haven’t noticed. I think this season they’ve officially checked out. They need to revise their sale price to a realistic number and just unload this thing. It looks like they’ve committed the classic mistake of overpricing their house and now no buyers. Worse yet with significantly declining attendance numbers and bad media deals they are now in a death spiral. This will force them to start selling off assets. Expect a fire sale soon.
jctwins Verified Member Posted May 4, 2025 Posted May 4, 2025 Gleeman trolling the owners with facts is quite enjoyable. Richie the Rally Goat and The Great Hambino 2
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted May 4, 2025 Posted May 4, 2025 On 4/27/2025 at 10:07 PM, Parfigliano said: My wife and I went to 3 games. We did our part. I’ve been to two, my third is this week
bean5302 Verified Member Posted May 4, 2025 Posted May 4, 2025 16 hours ago, laloesch said: That’s a bad sign and I can’t imagine the Poland’s haven’t noticed. I think this season they’ve officially checked out. They need to revise their sale price to a realistic number and just unload this thing. It looks like they’ve committed the classic mistake of overpricing their house and now no buyers. Worse yet with significantly declining attendance numbers and bad media deals they are now in a death spiral. This will force them to start selling off assets. Expect a fire sale soon. Twins have some of the lowest ticket prices in MLB. It's not the cost. It's the product (game day experience).
Ryan Atkins Verified Member Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 On 4/7/2025 at 2:26 PM, Battle ur tail off said: Flat out, they are boring and uninspiring to watch. This is it, if you ask me. They are not a team that generates any sort of excitement or anticipation of what might happen next. They rarely, if ever, attempt to manufacture runs. They play poor defense with equally poor all-around baseball fundamentals (TK would be sick watching this team). Every single "move" seems to be strictly by the book (the advanced stat sheet) with no awareness of, or adjustments made from, game-situation observations. There was one spark of optimism which got me excited to watch a Twins game this year and that was the emergence of Luke Keaschall. When he was batting, or running the bases, it was suddenly must-watch TV. And in an instant, whether a fluke or simply bad Twins injury mojo, this one incentive for watching was shut down. Or, hear me out, maybe all they really need is a dome.
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