DOUBLEHEADER GAME THREAD: Twins vs. Guardians 08/09/2024; 1:10 p.m. (BSN & MLBN) & 7:10 p.m. (Apple TV+ exclusive)

[Hubie29]

1 hour ago, Road trip said:

Apparently "TBD" throws left-handed...

M Margot (R) LF
B Buxton (R) CF
R Lewis (R) DH
J Miranda (R) 3B
C Santana (S) 1B
R Jeffers (R) C
M Kepler (L) RF
W Castro (S) SS
B Lee (S) 2B

Joey Cantillo. 7.36 ERA.  Hitters should feast game 1.

[Mike Sixel]

Farmer and Margot starting over Martin. Veterans forever!

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

4 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Farmer and Margot starting over Martin. Veterans forever!

Not too upset with the MM decision. He's been raking against lefties.

[SF Twins Fan]

4 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Farmer and Margot starting over Martin. Veterans forever!

At least Rocco can't use Margot as a pinch hitter...

[Mike Sixel]

1 minute ago, Twins_Fan_in_NJ said:

Not too upset with the MM decision. He's been raking against lefties.

Fair!

[Schmoeman5]

34 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

I'm sure people will complain the team doesn't have enough pitching.... They are down three starters, pretty much no team has that much depth. Not that I liked the original plan....

Who are the 3 starters down? Ryan and Paddack. Who's the third one? 

[Schmoeman5]

sorry  Double post

[Road trip]

5 minutes ago, Twins_Fan_in_NJ said:

Not too upset with the MM decision. He's been raking against lefties.

That was the narrative for a while, but he's been slumping lately.  His season OPS against lefties is now down to .709, which is just slightly below league average. 

But I get playing him, because if you don't use him vs lefties what purpose does he serve?

[Parfigliano]

42 minutes ago, Craig Arko said:

And finally,

 

Not bringing the A team for the foreseeable future.

[Vanimal46]

48 minutes ago, Craig Arko said:

And finally,

 

The injury bug bit hard in the last 2 weeks. That’s tough. 

[Parfigliano]

19 minutes ago, Hubie29 said:

Joey Cantillo. 7.36 ERA.  Hitters should feast game 1.

LHP that stinks.  History says he's dominating today.  If his best fastball is 92-93mph possible no hitter.

[Parfigliano]

20 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Farmer and Margot starting over Martin. Veterans forever!

Farmer starter.  Sickening.

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

10 minutes ago, Schmoeman5 said:

Who are the 3 starters down? Ryan and Paddack. Who's the third one? 

DeScalfiini (sp)

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

At this point, all things considered, might as well sign Rich Hill. If the Twins get to October, you can use him as a piggyback for one of the young guys. He might able to piece together a few good innings here or there.

[cHawk]

Bring back Shoemaker.

[Schmoeman5]

Just now, Twins_Fan_in_NJ said:

DeScalfiini (sp)

DeSclafani. OK. I don't believe he was REALLY being counted on. More like they hoped they might get something out of him. How about a 1/2 grade? Lol 

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

Just now, Schmoeman5 said:

DeSclafani. OK. I don't believe he was REALLY being counted on. More like they hoped they might get something out of him. How about a 1/2 grade? Lol 

Yeah, I wouldn't consider him as 'missing' starter - was never really there to begin with.

[nicksaviking]

54 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

I'm sure people will complain the team doesn't have enough pitching.... They are down three starters, pretty much no team has that much depth. Not that I liked the original plan....

I'm not complaining, the Twins went nearly two years without losing a starting pitcher of consequence, that was a pretty dang good run.

The gripe shouldn't be that the team didn't have starting pitching depth, the gripe should be that Paddock and Desclafani WEREN'T the pitching depth. Both of them had no business being considered rotation pieces for a team coming off their first playoff win in two decades. Maybe one for the 5th/swing spot, but not both.

[USAFChief]

56 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

I'm sure people will complain the team doesn't have enough pitching.... They are down three starters, pretty much no team has that much depth. Not that I liked the original plan....

If only there were some way, some...mechanism, some...strategy whereby the poor Twins could have supplemented their roster in-season. That would have been something. 

Oh well. Poor, unlucky Twins.  

[Craig Arko]

I see it’s time to leave now. Good luck, all.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

44 minutes ago, Craig Arko said:

Lots of gut punches today. Time for the Rocky theme.

The road to victory starts and ends in Philly 

[Schmoeman5]

2 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

If only there were some way, some...mechanism, some...strategy whereby the poor Twins could have supplemented their roster in-season. That would have been something. 

Oh well. Poor, unlucky Twins.  

Are you suggesting that things could've been done? Blasphemy!

[cHawk]

6 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

If only there were some way, some...mechanism, some...strategy whereby the poor Twins could have supplemented their roster in-season. That would have been something. 

Oh well. Poor, unlucky Twins.  

They did supplement their roster with a project reliever who has a WHIP over 2 since the trade. Apparently that was enough.

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

What is the deal with waiver wire pick ups? The Guards scooped up a bunch of guys last summer, Giolito, etc.. Not ideal but a serviceable starter or two could shake free. Isn't there a deadline for when you have to add them in order to have the player post season eligible?

[USAFChief]

Need about 7 strong from Ober and a W in game one. Preferably without using any of Alcala, Jax or Duran, who are then available for game 2. Use up a good portion of Cleveland's pen to boot.

That's not asking much, is it?

[stringer bell]

1 hour ago, Road trip said:

Apparently "TBD" throws left-handed...

M Margot (R) LF
B Buxton (R) CF
R Lewis (R) DH
J Miranda (R) 3B
C Santana (S) 1B
R Jeffers (R) C
M Kepler (L) RF
W Castro (S) SS
B Lee (S) 2B

Twins web site says that Lee was put on the IL with his shoulder injury. 
 

Blewitt has been pretty good for the Saints, but WTH is Topa? I guess I won’t expect him to pitch for the Twins until he actually pitches for the Twins. 

[Mike Sixel]

19 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

If only there were some way, some...mechanism, some...strategy whereby the poor Twins could have supplemented their roster in-season. That would have been something. 

Oh well. Poor, unlucky Twins.  

Agreed. But they are eight deep right now.... Most teams couldn't dream of that. 

We clearly didn't like the off season or trade deadline, but you swing and missed on the point completely.

[Mike Sixel]

22 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I'm not complaining, the Twins went nearly two years without losing a starting pitcher of consequence, that was a pretty dang good run.

The gripe shouldn't be that the team didn't have starting pitching depth, the gripe should be that Paddock and Desclafani WEREN'T the pitching depth. Both of them had no business being considered rotation pieces for a team coming off their first playoff win in two decades. Maybe one for the 5th/swing spot, but not both.

Which was my last sentence....

[Schmoeman5]

6 minutes ago, stringer bell said:

Twins web site says that Lee was put on the IL with his shoulder injury. 
 

Blewitt has been pretty good for the Saints, but WTH is Topa? I guess I won’t expect him to pitch for the Twins until he actually pitches for the Twins. 

Farmer for Lee.  Topa is a fugazi. 

[USAFChief]

8 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Agreed. But they are eight deep right now.... Most teams couldn't dream of that. 

We clearly didn't like the off season or trade deadline, but you swing and missed on the point completely.

I don't think I did. They're 8 deep? They're 2 deep, and plenty of teams have had worse luck with starters than the Twins.

This isn't  some unforeseeable, incredibly unlucky situation. 

And not addressing it in the offseason isn't an excuse for not addressing it in-season.