Carlos Correa is Coming On for Minnesota

[chpettit19]

2 hours ago, LastOnePicked said:

Sadly, I think this is very likely. Falvey/Levine set aside the x-rays and picked up rose colored glasses instead. Boras was probably only too happy they came back around to help him and his client save face.

I like Correa. I wish this wasn't happening. But he's no superstar at this point, and it's only year one.

What do the x-rays have to do with his current performance? Is the idea that his ankle is so shot right now that he's struggling to hit?

[JD-TWINS]

1 hour ago, MABB1959 said:

Is .265 good.   I guess I would expect nothing less than .300+ for that kind of money.  What do you see to expect.265?

To hit .265 for the year he’ll need to hit .295 the balance of the season - seems reasonable. I see a career BA of .279 and a traditionally slow starter. Seems to make sense.

[wabene]

4 hours ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

Oh, definitely, I agree. Too many things could go wrong, too many secondary injuries possible, not to mention Correa may not be all he is cracked up to be as a clubhouse leader. 

After the medicals raised concerns, the Mets still offered 6/157, for some reason. I have to wonder if a Correa injury was even insurable by that point. Yet the Twins ripped up that 6/157 and gave him 6/200 guaranteed. yikes. 

I don't see the logic here. It is being implied that other teams saw his poor performance this year coming. Why would they then offer the same AAV but just cut the term in half? 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

1 hour ago, wabene said:

I don't see the logic here. It is being implied that other teams saw his poor performance this year coming. Why would they then offer the same AAV but just cut the term in half? 

I think by cutting the term in half, the Mets signaled “we don’t want you anymore with that ankle.” Because my guess is Correa was really, really dead set on a 10 year, 300 million contract and had already told teams, nothing less than 10/300. I’m just speculating here. So Correa/Boras bid the Giants up to 350 but also did not realize the injury made their position weaker. Correa reportedly turned down 10/275 from Detroit before the 2021-2022 lockout, and then turned down that 10/285 offer from the Twins. (*shudders* at the thought). Houston did not really care to extend him after 2021, either, offering 5/160 when he already said he was seeking double that. Anyway. That’s my take on it.

[UK Twin]

The quality his at bats are certainly improving. The stats are slowly but surely improving. It's also worth mentioning the elite defense he's providing. He's thrown out a lot of baserunners that most SS wouldn't. So even though he's not hitting at a level he and everyone else would like he is still contributing. 

I have no reason to doubt why he won't post similar batting stats from last season.

[Squirrel]

10 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

What do the x-rays have to do with his current performance? Is the idea that his ankle is so shot right now that he's struggling to hit?

All the while playing the defense he has. Bum ankle fer sure 🙄

[Whitey333]

Correa is overpaid and definitely over hyped and overrated.  He's s good player.  But not even the biggest Correa fans can say he is playing like a superstar.  He needs to play up to and beyond hus potential if thus club is to be taken seriously

[DJL44]

14 hours ago, MABB1959 said:

Is .265 good.   I guess I would expect nothing less than .300+ for that kind of money.  What do you see to expect.265?

You know very few people hit .300 anymore, right? This isn't the 1990s or the 1930s.

What is the obsession with batting average on this board?

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

26 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

What is the obsession with batting average on this board?

This board is also obsessed with ERA again, too.

Despite the prevalence of the advanced metrics nowadays, the traditional stats still tell the story well enough. 

[tarheeltwinsfan]

On 5/31/2023 at 12:42 PM, #3Killer said:

Should we really accept that it takes two months to “heat up”. Minimal AB’s in spring training, lots of off days early on, -are slumping athletes getting the work from hitting instructors and extra work in the batting cage. Our offense is really bad- and it shouldn’t be! Let’s hope lessons can be learned and fixed for the future. All these winnable games will really come back to haunt us at the seasons end. Every game counts.!

You may be right, but it is what it is. 

[tarheeltwinsfan]

5 hours ago, Whitey333 said:

Correa is overpaid and definitely over hyped and overrated.  He's s good player.  But not even the biggest Correa fans can say he is playing like a superstar.  He needs to play up to and beyond hus potential if thus club is to be taken seriously

Correa is the best fielding SS I have ever seen in my 65 years of watching and playing baseball.  Period. That fits my definition of a superstar SS, the most important fielding position on a baseball team. 

[blindeke]

The foot thing is a big worry for me...

[Riverbrian]

16 hours ago, blindeke said:

The foot thing is a big worry for me...

Under normal circumstances... I would agree with you. Correa is a tremendous defensive SS. Correa in years past is also an offensive force that will help teams win. 

Sadly, circumstances are not normal. 

It's June 2... The Alarm Clock on my patience rang yesterday. I have none left.  

Correa has been no help at the plate. He's given us 9 walks and a couple of doubles in the past 15 days. his OPS in the past 7 days is .431 -- just 3 singles and 3 walks.

I'm going to say it... Our comeback last night was in part possible because he got out of the way so the players capable of bringing us back could. 

Sometimes injuries make us better.  

It's June... Cleveland is in town. LET'S GO

[MABB1959]

On 5/31/2023 at 6:13 PM, Twins33 said:

11 qualified hitters hit .300 or better last year. Baseball has been going this direction for years now. 

It has become extremely unrealistic to expect anyone to hit .300. 

Except for Arraez and Urshela!  Kind of kidding but if .265 is acceptable at that salary (he is 11th in salary) he would rank 72nd in avg and 89th in RBI's.   

[Schmoeman5]

On 6/1/2023 at 2:12 PM, tarheeltwinsfan said:

Correa is the best fielding SS I have ever seen in my 65 years of watching and playing baseball.  Period. That fits my definition of a superstar SS, the most important fielding position on a baseball team. 

Better than Ozzie? His range is nowhere near his. Correa has a big arm supposedly. I see a lot of his long throws skipped over to 1st. Not saying he isn't a good shortstop. But I don't think he's any better than Ripken another tall SS. I'm not buying what him and Boras sold the Twins. If Turner Seager Simien that 2022 group of FA coerced big money longer deals from their clubs why wasn't Correa able to? Something is not adding up. We'll have 6 years to find out and assess who zoomed who. And now he has Planters Fasciitis That's not going away by tomorrow.  We'll see.

[Schmoeman5]

On 5/31/2023 at 6:13 PM, Twins33 said:

11 qualified hitters hit .300 or better last year. Baseball has been going this direction for years now. 

It has become extremely unrealistic to expect anyone to hit .300. 

Why? With strikeouts down. More emphasis on speed and getting on base. I expect to see More .300 hitters. Team BA already higher than last year except for the Twins and a few other clubs

[Twins33]

On 6/2/2023 at 12:03 PM, MABB1959 said:

Except for Arraez and Urshela!  Kind of kidding but if .265 is acceptable at that salary (he is 11th in salary) he would rank 72nd in avg and 89th in RBI's.   

Urshela was not a qualified hitter, but Arraez was.
 

It’s perfectly fine to expect more from players. I expect more from Correa than he’s done so far this year, but again, if you expect a .300 hitter than nearly every player in MLB will never be good enough for you. 

[Twins33]

On 6/2/2023 at 4:50 PM, Schmoeman5 said:

Why? With strikeouts down. More emphasis on speed and getting on base. I expect to see More .300 hitters. Team BA already higher than last year except for the Twins and a few other clubs

Because it’s not the baseball world we live in anymore. Like I told the other poster, it’s fine to want the players to be better…I want that to, but this is the reality of the game today. As of this moment, only 16 qualified hitters are hitting .300 or better. 

If you want to expect/demand someone hit .300, that’s your prerogative. Reality will be different. 

[Schmoeman5]

53 minutes ago, Twins33 said:

Because it’s not the baseball world we live in anymore. Like I told the other poster, it’s fine to want the players to be better…I want that to, but this is the reality of the game today. As of this moment, only 16 qualified hitters are hitting .300 or better. 

If you want to expect/demand someone hit .300, that’s your prerogative. Reality will be different. 

I still disagree 2016 27 did it 2017 29 hit over .300. With the emphasis going away from the homerun on some clubs and going to OBP. You can expect more athletic hitters. That's the kind of increase I expect. And not overnight. But prospects we'll see in the next few years. An I'm not demanding that. I just see baseball moving away from the 3 outcome hitters.

[Twins33]

31 minutes ago, Schmoeman5 said:

I still disagree 2016 27 did it 2017 29 hit over .300. With the emphasis going away from the homerun on some clubs and going to OBP. You can expect more athletic hitters. That's the kind of increase I expect. And not overnight. But prospects we'll see in the next few years. An I'm not demanding that. I just see baseball moving away from the 3 outcome hitters.

Sure, that’s not a crazy take. The other poster was saying they expect Correa, and anyone getting paid as much as he is, to hit .300. That’s not realistic especially in today’s baseball, because most guys don’t or can’t…no matter what they’re making. 
 

It wouldn’t surprise me to see baseball move away from the three true outcomes because baseball changes all the time, but I don’t believe it will ever get back to the way it used to be. Pitches are better than they’ve ever been in just about every way.