Game Thread: Twins @ White Sox, 8/29/19, 1:10 CT

[mrtwinsfan]

Bremer is comical  on the cruz foul out he had it 10 rows back cause of the wind,  on the 2 homeruns  no comment about it,

[PDX Twin]

 

Seriously, they should be allowed to forfeit ......just move on with life at this point.

 

That would be bad for a team seeking the HR record.

[Mike Sixel]

 

That would be bad for a team seeking the HR record.

 

Meh, I get that, but meh. I want no more injuries. But sure, pad your stats all you want. It's still boring.

[Diesel]

Cease’s outing was strange. His 99 mph fastball looked like a meatball. Amazing what movement does to a fastball. Cease doesn’t have it yet

[bighat]

Dick just said "Last year on August 29th, the Twins were 62-70". Yeesh, it seems like a zillion years ago. Paul Molitor at helm in a lame duck year, not a memorable time to be a fan for sure.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

listening on the radio - it sounds likes the Pale Hose are the cure for what ails Berrios. Is that accurate? sounds like his velo is up a mile or two, but not back up to 94-95

[Circus Boy]

Through the 3rd inning, the Twins have gone 44 consecutive innings playing error-free baseball. It's a miracle!

[Puckett34]

 

Through the 3rd inning, the Twins have gone 44 consecutive innings playing error-free baseball. It's a miracle!

I feel like this post won't age well. lol

[Squirrel]

Okay ... cmon Twins! Don’t let the Sox get on the board!

[Squirrel]

Seriously, they should be allowed to forfeit ......just move on with life at this point.

At 8-0 in the 4th?

[Don Walcott]

Through the 3rd inning, the Twins have gone 44 consecutive innings playing error-free baseball. It's a miracle!

Was going to say something last night, but didn’t want to jinx it . . . .

[FLTwinsGuy]

Was looking good for jose to get 7 in, now not so much

 

Nice job getting out of that inning though

[Puckett34]

Dearest Sleeper Agent Brad Hand,

 

If you could just cough up that lead in Detroit, that would be great.

 

Thanks

[PDX Twin]

Lots of swinging strikes for Berrios today, for a change. I'm not too worried about him for today.

[Don Walcott]

Nice job, Jose.

 

Looks like the curveball is back.

[Cap'n Piranha]

 

Drive in 88 runs... But yeah, Eddie has to be a trade candidate this offseason. 

 

When the entirety of the case for keeping a player is "he has a lot of RBI's," it means he's not really that great of a player, he just consistently finds himself in opportunities to drive in runs.

 

Eddie is 21st in baseball in terms of PA's with RISP; in those situations he has a .900 OPS, which sounds good until you realize that actually only puts him 86th in baseball this year.  By wRC+ he's tied for 87th, and wOBA puts him at 91st.

 

Zooming out to 30,000 feet, Eddie has 1.3 WAR in 110 games and 472 PA; Cave is at 0.8 in only 51 games and 156 PA.  Add in the fact that most of our best hitting prospects (Kiriloff, Larnach, Rooker, and potentially Lewis) are nominally outfielders, the fact that Kepler and Buxton are clearly better and more valuable players, and Eddie only has two more years of control left (at much more money) compared to Cave's 4, and this honestly seems like a no-brainer to me.

[Blake]

That strike-out of McCann by Berrios was a thing of beauty.

[obtusebanter]

 

listening on the radio - it sounds likes the Pale Hose are the cure for what ails Berrios. Is that accurate? sounds like his velo is up a mile or two, but not back up to 94-95

 

I can't speak to his velocity but his curveball looks like it got a lot more depth. Not the flat P.O.S. he been tossing up there lately.  

[Don Walcott]

Dearest Sleeper Agent Brad Hand,

 

If you could just cough up that lead in Detroit, that would be great.

 

Thanks

Unfortunately, you can’t trust those sleeper agents.

[gocgo]

Gardy brought in a pinch hitter for the last out of the game...3 pitches...K.

[MMMordabito]

Cron just needs that triple.

[TFRazor]

 

Gardy brought in a pinch hitter for the last out of the game...3 pitches...K.

I think that says more about the talent currently on Detroit's roster than it does about Gardy

[sampleSizeOfOne]

Bases loaded, no outs.

 

They got us where they want us...

[yarnivek1972]

It’s usually been around pitch 75-80 where Berrios has been hitting the wall hard of late. Let’s see how the next inning or two goes before declaring him right as rain.

[Puckett34]

 

Dearest Sleeper Agent Brad Hand,

 

If you could just cough up that lead in Detroit, that would be great.

 

Thanks

Well that didn't work

[Blake]

 

Worst lineup the Twins have put out all season?

As an anti-jinx comment, I rate this:

 

[TFRazor]

 

Well that didn't work

You must not have paid him enough

[VATwinsFan]

So in what inning do the unwritten rules go into force?

[yarnivek1972]

As an anti-jinx comment, I rate this:

So far, it’s only a 9. But it is just the 5th inning...

[Cap'n Piranha]

 

While I agree that there are times where Rosie can be "frustrating", don't forget that he was arguably the best player on the team last year and carried us for extended periods.

 

That was true--last year.  A year before Kepler's breakout, when Sano and Buxton were hurt basically the entire year, Polanco was suspended for half the year, Garver spent 2/3 of the year in the minors, and Arraez the entire year.  Just because a player has been good doesn't mean he still is or will be good--that looks like the case with Eddie right now.  He continues to increase his chase rate, but has also increased his contact rate--likely leading to the decline in his BABIP, which combined with his cratering walk rate puts his OBP right around .300.  Despite only getting 37% of pitches in the zone, Eddie starts 60% of his PA's 0-1; either pitchers have figured out you don't need to give him a strike to start an at-bat, or once they do, they don't go back to the zone again.

 

Either way, this is not sustainable, and I find it hard to believe that a guy who will be 28 next year, and has had the same hitting coach for the last 3 years while his discipline eroded, is all of the sudden going to start demonstrating even a modicum of patience.  Cave does just about everything Rosario does, but will do it at about 10% of the cost next year--I'd rather the Twins spend the ~$5.5M savings on pitching or building a lineup of death than "upgrading" from Cave to Rosario.