Front Page: Trade Deadline: What if the Twins Do Nothing?

[yarnivek1972]

Both of the recently acquired relievers have a k per 9 below MLB average.

[Mike Frasier Law]

 

Both of the recently acquired relievers have a k per 9 below MLB average.

 

True, but not the whole picture:

 

 

 

MLB Average  9.23 k/9   3.76 bb/9   4.48 ERA   4.50 FIP   4.55 xFIP

AL average     9.12 k/9    3.74 bb/9   4.43 ERA  4.52 FIP    4.60 xFIP

Dyson:            8.29 k/9    1.24 bb/9  2.47 ERA   2.74 FIP    3.40 xFIP

Romo:             7.91 k/9    3.03 bb/9  3.49 ERA   3.90 FIP    5.20 xFIP

 

[SwainZag]

I think Dyson is a great add

[nicksaviking]

 

True, but not the whole picture:

 

 

 

MLB Average  9.23 k/9   3.76 bb/9   4.48 ERA   4.50 FIP   4.55 xFIP

AL average     9.12 k/9    3.74 bb/9   4.43 ERA  4.52 FIP    4.60 xFIP

Dyson:            8.29 k/9    1.24 bb/9  2.47 ERA   2.74 FIP    3.40 xFIP

Romo:             7.91 k/9    3.03 bb/9  3.49 ERA   3.90 FIP    5.20 xFIP

 

I care more about the strikeouts, particularly when Sano is fielding grounders over my right shoulder.

[yarnivek1972]

Getting strikeouts is important for middle relievers. If they are brought in with runners on, simply allowing contact may allow them to score.

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

Getting strikeouts is important for middle relievers. If they are brought in with runners on, simply allowing contact may allow them to score.

I think Romo and Dyson means that Rodgers becomes the primary fireman. He's the guy you're going to see with runners on. Romo, Dyson, Harper, and Duffey seem to be guys who can get that clean inning fairly consistently. 

 

You might see Dyson in a DP situation, given his GB tendencies. 

[notoriousgod71]

We may be able to hold an occasional lead in the postseason now, but will we ever get one with this starting rotation?

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

We may be able to hold an occasional lead in the postseason now, but will we ever get one with this starting rotation?

Boy, what a silly trade deadline re: starters.

 

Stroman and Bauer go to non-contenders. Minor, Bumgarner, Wheeler, and others stay put.

 

Only Greinke felt like a normal move.

[yarnivek1972]

I don’t recall the word “solid” being used to describe reliever targets. The word I recall is “shut down”. That doesn’t describe Romo or Dyson.

[tlkriens]

 

ALDS game 5. 7th inning. Top of the Yankees lineup coming up in a 2-2 ballgame. Now pitching for the Twins...Lewis Thorpe. Still confident? 

In this scenario, Thorpe is coming in before Romo, Dyson and Rogers? OK.

He did give up one run in 2 2/3 inning last week to the Yankees. There are worse options. 

[Squirrel]

What a weird deadline. Yankees and Red Sox did virtually nothing to improve their pitching. Houston traded for EVERYONE. Mets and Reds (non contenders) trade for two of the best starters on the market. Wheeler, Bumgarner, Vazquez, Minor don't get traded.

 

Just weird

This is where I’m at right now.

[notoriousgod71]

 

Another thing I’d like to add is while we should strive to be like the Tampa Bay Rays our minor league development hasn’t been great. Yes, it’s looking more like some of our position players are developing nicely (Polanco, Garver, Rosario, and Kepler), yet we’ve only sorta developed 2 quality starting pitchers in Berríos and Gibson (and Gibson is a stretch considering he was a potential #2-3 starter who is more or less a #4-5 starter). If we were actually better at developing talent I’d feel better of standing pat.

 

Why do we want to be like Tampa Bay? What have they ever won? The goal is not to spend the least amount of dollars per win; the goal is to spend as much as is necessary for the most wins and the FINAL win.

[dex8425]

I personally am happy with the two deadline deals. At the beginning of the year, I thought we were 2 pen arms away from being a legitimate playoff series contender.  I would have rather had Kimbrel, but Dyson and Romo are solid pieces and it does look like one or more of the AAA guys, or May, can be a shut down 6th-7th inning guy. 

 

Making a huge splash is fun, but nobody expected the Twins to do that and I'm not sure I would want the Twins to do the Greinke deal the Astros did. 

[Pardon My Dinger]

Well...what happened?

[notoriousgod71]

 

This reminds me of 2001. The Twins traded for a closer and a starter a couple days before the deadline. But getting the starter cost them their leadoff hitter, Matt Lawton. Ortiz and Guzman were already hurt. Doug Mientkiewicz remembered that he was Doug Mientkiewicz after doing an impersonation of Rod Carew for two months. The offense was scuffling, bad. The common wisdom (as I recall, the main messgage board in those days was on espn) was that the Twins were going to trade away some surplus OF prospects for Shannon Stewart or Brian Hunter.

Suffice to say, that didn’t happen.

 

Here's a funny story. I used to tape a lot of games on this thing called a VCR and I watched a bunch of them about ten years ago before my VCR died a tragic death. One of the games was from June or July of 2001 against Detroit and Dick says, "The Tigers will likely try to move Todd Jones at the trade deadline but looking at his numbers I'm not sure they'll find any takers."

[notoriousgod71]

 

They can spin it however they want, I don't see this fanbase taking the bait.

 

 

We will be easily appeased with another Joe Mauer night.

[notoriousgod71]

 

I'm about to acquire a Chipotle burrito bowl for cash considerations...

 

That is more of a rental?

[Squirrel]

 

Well...what happened?

Good morning, Dinger! Had your coffee yet?

[Squirrel]

 

That is more of a rental?

Depends on how much fast food affects your system.

[Oldgoat_MN]

 

I guess Diplan can take Lewin Diaz's place in this offseason's 40-man crunch.

Art least he'll be safe. No one is going to pick up a guy with 5 to 6 walks per nine.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Art least he'll be safe. No one is going to pick up a guy with 5 to 6 walks per nine.

...except us.

[jokin]

The potential for this thread going apocalyptically nuclear really looked promising around 3:01 today....