wsnydes Old-Timey Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 I realize this guy's numbers are terrible and he probably won't be any good. But, he wasn't exactly handed any favors for his start last weekend as far as being rested. "Wilk’s outing came under sub-optimal circumstances, to say the last, as Fred Kerber of the New York Post detailed. The lefty flew from Las Vegas to Albuquerque (with a stop in Denver) last Saturday, only to learn he was needed in the Majors, at which point he flew to Los Angeles and took a midnight flight to New York to start against the Marlins at 1pm."So what is the excuse for the rest of his career? yarnivek1972, Mike Sixel, bluechipper and 5 others 8
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 I realize this guy's numbers are terrible and he probably won't be any good. But, he wasn't exactly handed any favors for his start last weekend as far as being rested. "Wilk’s outing came under sub-optimal circumstances, to say the last, as Fred Kerber of the New York Post detailed. The lefty flew from Las Vegas to Albuquerque (with a stop in Denver) last Saturday, only to learn he was needed in the Majors, at which point he flew to Los Angeles and took a midnight flight to New York to start against the Marlins at 1pm." A new market inefficiency has been found! 70charger, d-mac, LimestoneBaggy and 1 other 4
lukeduke1980 Verified Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 I assume when he starts that Castro will be framing his pitches...
Danchat Verified Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Then why send Gibson down? Gibson is bad, but IMO he's better than Wilk.I never approved of the Wilk acquisition. I was just emphasizing the importance of waiting until Berrios is ready.
wsnydes Old-Timey Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) I never approved of the Wilk acquisition. I was just emphasizing the importance of waiting until Berrios is ready.That's fine, but they could have let Mejia take the spot start. They could have let Tepesch take the spot start. They could have even gone with a bullpen game (yes I find the humor in that too). It seems silly to bring a guy in with this sort of resume for that sort of purpose. Edited May 10, 2017 by wsnydes Mike Sixel, Dave The Dastardly and Oldgoat_MN 3
caninatl04 Verified Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Why not Hurlbut? He isn't exactly the starter of the future, so bringing him up won't exactly destroy long-term plans.
drjim Provisional Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 All this concern and the game tonight is rained out. Won't need a 5th starter again for 10 days. Could be Gibson by then. h2oface 1
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 All this concern and the game tonight is rained out. Won't need a 5th starter again for 10 days. Could be Gibson by then. In which case the claim now makes even less sense. You just gave up your waiver spot for wait for it Adam Wilk. Vanimal46 and d-mac 2
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 In which case the claim now makes even less sense. You just gave up your waiver spot for wait for it Adam Wilk.What do you mean by gave up their waiver spot?
drjim Provisional Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 In which case the claim now makes even less sense. You just gave up your waiver spot for wait for it Adam Wilk. Just an open 40 man spot. That is easily fixed if they want to bring someone else on board.
Oldgoat_MN Verified Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 I don't want to write what I really think. It would get me a warning point. I'll just note that I think this occurs as almost childish. Dr. Evil, d-mac, USAFChief and 2 others 5
Tibs Verified Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Not a fan and don't completely understand the move, but I'll give the new front office the benefit of the doubt on having a plan until they give me reason not to. Carneal&Gordon, ThejacKmp and WLFINN 3
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted May 10, 2017 Author Posted May 10, 2017 fair. but this does say they aren't trying to win this year, doesn't it? Can we ever be honest about rebuilding here? How would you feel if you were on the roster, and they made these decisions? I don't think it would bother me a lot as a player. I'd trust in the plan. And, I don't think it tells us anything about their plans for 2017. They are thinking big picture, but with 120 games to play, I'm sure they're willing to adjust throughout the year.
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 What do you mean by gave up their waiver spot? Does a team that makes a claim not go to the end of the list after doing so? I honestly don't know. I know it is set by record, but I guess I always thought it was fluid based on made claims.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Does a team that makes a claim not go to the end of the list after doing so? I honestly don't know. I know it is set by record, but I guess I always thought it was fluid based on made claims.Nope. Making a claim doesn't affect your waiver position. USAFChief 1
Dr. Evil Verified Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 I don't want to write what I really think. It would get me a warning point. I'll just note that I think this occurs as almost childish.Your restraint level is most commendable sir. Oldgoat_MN, d-mac, Dave The Dastardly and 1 other 4
wsnydes Old-Timey Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) I don't think it would bother me a lot as a player. I'd trust in the plan. And, I don't think it tells us anything about their plans for 2017. They are thinking big picture, but with 120 games to play, I'm sure they're willing to adjust throughout the year. I'd agree with this completely if there were a plan that was a bit more clear. The moves last week seemed to indicate one thing and now this doesn't really fit into that. It's an outlier move, which is what is confusing to me to begin with. It doesn't show that they're trying to win now and it doesn't show that they're trying to get the future of the organization big league experience. So what is it telling me? Edited May 10, 2017 by wsnydes
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Saw that Bernadino says WIlk NOT under consideration to start on Saturday. Now it gets interesting. He is here to replace someone in the bullpen. I'm guessing Pressly. This also raises the possibility that Berrios will start Saturday. According to Bernadino, still under discussion. We were told a couple days ago, Berrios was not ready. If he's ready now, he was ready then.... Tibs, d-mac and rghrbek 3
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted May 10, 2017 Author Posted May 10, 2017 Article is updated with notes on Rucinski being sent down after the game, and the Twins saying that Wilk is considered a reliever by the team, not a starting option. Saturday starter could be Tepesch, Berrios or Mejia. wsnydes, PseudoSABR and Danchat 3
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted May 10, 2017 Author Posted May 10, 2017 I'd agree with this completely if there were a plan that was a bit more clear. The moves last week seemed to indicate one thing and now this doesn't really fit into that. It's an outlier move, which is what is confusing to me to begin with. It doesn't show that they're trying to win now and it doesn't show that they're trying to get the future of the organization big league experience. So what is it telling me? Maybe the plan is more clear to the players. It doesn't need to be clear to us... WLFINN, gheggs42, Tibs and 2 others 5
Carneal&Gordon Verified Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Not worried, I trust FalVine and admire the fact that they dare to make moves this early. flags, BigSkyTwinsFan, gheggs42 and 1 other 4
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Article is updated with notes on Rucinski being sent down after the game, and the Twins saying that Wilk is considered a reliever by the team, not a starting option. Saturday starter could be Tepesch, Berrios or Mejia. Rucinski never should have been called up.
wsnydes Old-Timey Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Maybe the plan is more clear to the players. It doesn't need to be clear to us... That may very well be the case, and I hope that it is. The news of Rucinski being optioned and Wilk not being considered for a start makes much more sense. This is what I get for reacting to unconfirmed information. That being said, I still would have liked a promotion from within over this.
drjim Provisional Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Article is updated with notes on Rucinski being sent down after the game, and the Twins saying that Wilk is considered a reliever by the team, not a starting option. Saturday starter could be Tepesch, Berrios or Mejia. That would be pretty amazing if after all this angst (myself included) it ends up being Berrios starting on Saturday over Tepesch, and then Mejia (or Gibson) when the next start is needed May 20. Seems there is a split in the front office. As there should be. Start Berrios already. USAFChief, Vanimal46, 70charger and 2 others 5
drjim Provisional Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Rucinski never should have been called up. Getting an emergency long man is the least of the controversy here. PseudoSABR, Shaitan, Richie the Rally Goat and 1 other 4
Tibs Verified Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 We were told a couple days ago, Berrios was not ready. If he's ready now, he was ready then....Maybe he had an epiphany yesterday Oldgoat_MN and Dr. Evil 2
curt1965 Verified Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Apparently the new front office's philosophy is to pick up cast-offs from other teams and hope they'll end up with some "diamonds in the rough." We were told for years that the young guys the Twins drafted 3-4 years ago would be studs. They've stock piled hard throwers who were supposed to be the Twins' future stars.So instead, we choose a guy who was released from the Mets so they could start Tommy f-ing Malone?This organization is a disgrace! The only saving grace will be that the team will be so awful no one will come to watch, and then maybe they can get serious about putting a decent product on the field. Oldgoat_MN and Dave The Dastardly 2
drjim Provisional Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Maybe he had an epiphany yesterday I was pretty convinced he had it figured out a couple days ago considering the situation.
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 At what point do we get to start judging the FO and their awesome pitching acumen? At the point that the Twins are not competing. As long as they are competing I will be giving them the benefit of the doubt. What matters is the standings. So far so good. BigSkyTwinsFan and gheggs42 2
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) Wheeler is on the other line...says he wants to know what he needs to do to get a shot and would be happy to make an appearance on the 40 man roster. I watched Wheeler pitch on Monday.Horrible is a compliment for the way he was pitching... Edited May 10, 2017 by Thrylos
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