DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Wow, Yankees just traded Beltran for Tate+more.Once A-Rod and a couple of those contracts are off the books the Yankees are setting up for another dynasty like run. LaBombo 1
wsnydes Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 So, a beer and universal healthcare?You forgot a vat of maple syrup. Vanimal46 and Mike Sixel 2
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 So, a beer and universal healthcare?And poutine. Mike Sixel and wsnydes 2
KirbyHawk75 Verified Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Well, if Abad is the Twins only trade; then that is one more trade than I guessed.
LaBombo Verified Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 If he starts quoting "River of Dreams", we're in trouble.But the Muzak version makes for great grocery shopping. Otto von Ballpark 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 KLAW just said that Yankees are now one of the top 3 farm systems.....that is one fast rebuild if they pan out! Vanimal46, KirbyHawk75 and wsnydes 3
wsnydes Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 And poutine. ...and I just suddenly got really hungry. LaBombo 1
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Dillon Tate for two months of Carlos Beltran?! Come ON!That's a nice return, even though Tate isn't exactly setting the pro game on fire. He dropped off of MLB's midseason top 100 (had been #36 preseason). But he was the 4th overall pick just a year ago, and Beltran is of course 2 months of a 39 year old DH (although a pretty darn reliable one, with some big postseason experience too). markos and gunnarthor 2
whydidnt Verified Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Wow, Yankees just traded Beltran for Tate+more.Once A-Rod and a couple of those contracts are off the books the Yankees are setting up for another dynasty like run.Yep, they have acquired a boatload of prospects. One of the lessons the Twins could learn from this: You can spend for top talent, and then sell it off for top prospects if things don't go well. The Yankees spend some $ on Miller and Chapman, but once it became apparent they were out this year, they turned that $ into valuable future pieces. Vanimal46, DaveW, Primetime82 and 5 others 8
LaBombo Verified Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 We used Korn Ferry at my place.We played Korn at the company picnic...http://metamansion.com/wp-content/uploads/images/Korn_12240.jpg Vanimal46 1
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Yep, they have acquired a boatload of prospects. One of the lessons the Twins could learn from this: You can spend for top talent, and then sell it off for top prospects if things don't go well. The Yankees spend some $ on Miller and Chapman, but once it became apparent they were out this year, they turned that $ into valuable future pieces. Yeah Cashman has done a helluva job not only convincing his bosses they needed to do the un Yankee like "rebuild" but brought back 4 or 5 top 50 top prospects!
Taildragger8791 Verified Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Yep, they have acquired a boatload of prospects. One of the lessons the Twins could learn from this: You can spend for top talent, and then sell it off for top prospects if things don't go well. The Yankees spend some $ on Miller and Chapman, but once it became apparent they were out this year, they turned that $ into valuable future pieces. I'm jealous of the ability of the Yankees to reload so easily like that. Even if their drafting is terrible they will always have pieces to trade and for some reason teams loves forking over their top prospects for them. They make it look so easy.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Maybe it is a bit of an F off to Lucroy? Oh, you don't want to beat out an up and coming player? Fine, we'll add just that!Nah, I don't think that was Lucroy's real reason for rejecting the deal. He must get along pretty well with Milwaukee management, after all he signed the deal and hasn't really complained that I can recall. The Brewers have to plan for a life after Lucroy, though, and Susac isn't really a threat to Lucroy for the next year anyway.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Yep, they have acquired a boatload of prospects. One of the lessons the Twins could learn from this: You can spend for top talent, and then sell it off for top prospects if things don't go well. The Yankees spend some $ on Miller and Chapman, but once it became apparent they were out this year, they turned that $ into valuable future pieces. Unfortunately, I think that's more a Pohlad constraint than anything... but yes, I agree.
LaBombo Verified Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 KLAW just said that Yankees are now one of the top 3 farm systems.....that is one fast rebuild if they pan out!Wow. That would be a quick turnaround for any franchise, but especially one who almost always travels in the opposite direction on the veteran <=> prospect highway.
gocgo Verified Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Yep, they have acquired a boatload of prospects. One of the lessons the Twins could learn from this: You can spend for top talent, and then sell it off for top prospects if things don't go well. The Yankees spend some $ on Miller and Chapman, but once it became apparent they were out this year, they turned that $ into valuable future pieces. They will build a base from these guys and then spend big for pitching.
bluechipper Provisional Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 KLAW just said that Yankees are now one of the top 3 farm systems.....that is one fast rebuild if they pan out!MLBpipeline says they may be their #1. Not much in terms of frontline pitching though, or top of the line (top 10 overall range) prospects, but great depth.
wsnydes Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) MLBpipeline says they may be their #1. Not much in terms of frontline pitching though, or top of the line (top 10 overall range) prospects, but great depth. If they're able to build a lineup from within, they have plenty of resources to fill in the holes in their pitching staff. Edited August 1, 2016 by wsnydes whydidnt and bluechipper 2
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 I said before I would be "Ok" with one trade, but if Suzuki isn't traded today it is a major failure by the front office.The guy is an impending FA, there is ZERO reason not to trade him for anything. whydidnt, Primetime82, Hosken Bombo Disco and 1 other 4
markos Provisional Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 I'm jealous of the ability of the Yankees to reload so easily like that. Even if their drafting is terrible they will always have pieces to trade and for some reason teams loves forking over their top prospects for them. They make it look so easy.There is a lot of luck involved in this. The one year that the Yanks are actually in a position to sell just happens to be the year when everyone is willing to pay a crazy amount on relief pitching (thanks Royals) AND when the Yankees just happened to have two of the best relief pitchers. Now some of this is by design, and Cashman deserves credit for executing. But if this was an offseason when everyone was paying top-dollar for starting pitching, the Yanks wouldn't have much to offer.
bluechipper Provisional Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 If they're able to build a lineup from within, they have plenty of resources to fill in the holes in their pitching staff.Yeah, it's annoying that they're doing the smart thing. wsnydes 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 There is a lot of luck involved in this. The one year that the Yanks are actually in a position to sell just happens to be the year when everyone is willing to pay a crazy amount on relief pitching (thanks Royals) AND when the Yankees just happened to have two of the best relief pitchers. Now some of this is by design, and Cashman deserves credit for executing. But if this was an offseason when everyone was paying top-dollar for starting pitching, the Yanks wouldn't have much to offer. So they took advantage of their resources, and didn't keep them around "to be competitive this year/next year"? Isn't that what a smart team does? Some teams trade their players, and get better, some do not......for some reason. DaveW, whydidnt, Vanimal46 and 2 others 5
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 There is a lot of luck involved in this. The one year that the Yanks are actually in a position to sell just happens to be the year when everyone is willing to pay a crazy amount on relief pitching (thanks Royals) AND when the Yankees just happened to have two of the best relief pitchers. Now some of this is by design, and Cashman deserves credit for executing. But if this was an offseason when everyone was paying top-dollar for starting pitching, the Yanks wouldn't have much to offer.The Yankees have 27 World Series title, "luck" often happens to the teams that earn it. Mike Sixel 1
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 I'm jealous of the ability of the Yankees to reload so easily like that. Even if their drafting is terrible they will always have pieces to trade and for some reason teams loves forking over their top prospects for them. They make it look so easy.Money is a big advantage. LaBombo, Major League Ready and bluechipper 3
gocgo Verified Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Is the fact that Suzuki isn't being talked about an indication of how bad our catching is? I mean, he's our starter and no one even wants him as a backup??? KirbyHawk75 1
Loosey Verified Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Two Month Rental of Beltran gets a return of last years #4 overall pick. Maybe the Twins really should put a feeler out there for what 2+ years of Brian Dozier would net them. Primetime82, Taildragger8791, magiklair and 4 others 7
70charger Verified Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Wow, Yankees just traded Beltran for Tate+more.Once A-Rod and a couple of those contracts are off the books the Yankees are setting up for another dynasty like run. God. Damn. It. DaveW 1
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 Is the fact that Suzuki isn't being talked about an indication of how bad our catching is? I mean, he's our starter and no one even wants him as a backup???I think this thread is talking about Santana b/c of the rumors Jeremy put out there. I would imagine that teams are looking at Suzuki - certainly there have been reports on mlbtraderumors of that but nothing specific. I think Lucroy is slowing the catching market, but I have no idea.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 We played Korn at the company picnic...http://metamansion.com/wp-content/uploads/images/Korn_12240.jpgI liked them better before Ferry left. Ferry likes this LaBombo 1
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