Article: Official Trade Deadline Day Thread

[Tom Froemming]

Gotta be a Lucroy trade coming .. then Suzuki goes?

[nicksaviking]

Wouldn't the Giants rather have had Santana? This board would have been in hysteria.

[Mike Sixel]

Eric A Longenhagen
2:31 Bickford has been 89-92 with a 50 slider and plus command. Barely threw a changeup as an amateur so that pitch is behind. Not sure why so many are in love with him.

[whydidnt]

 

Jeremy just retweeted Bickford and Susac for the Brewers' Will Smith.

Wow! Are relievers now more valuable than starters? I liked the return for Abad until I saw this one. 

 

 

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

Please tell me that is from the Twins media guide...

Jim Pohlad is currently checking that media guide as we speak...

[Mike Sixel]

Come on.....there is no comparison between a healthy Will Smith and Abad......

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

Gotta be a Lucroy trade coming 

Not necessarily.  Susac has been in AAA, and might just be Lucroy insurance for an offseason or 2017 trade.

[nicksaviking]

 

Eric A Longenhagen
2:31 Bickford has been 89-92 with a 50 slider and plus command. Barely threw a changeup as an amateur so that pitch is behind. Not sure why so many are in love with him.

 

That's interesting. And it makes me feel better.

[Bob Sacamento]

Giants get to control Smith til 2019, BoSox get Abad for 2017.  Still makes me like the Cubs-Chapman trade (for the Cubs) the longer the trading goes on.

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

Eric A Longenhagen
2:31 Bickford has been 89-92 with a 50 slider and plus command. Barely threw a changeup as an amateur so that pitch is behind. Not sure why so many are in love with him.

I could see that he's a bit overrated.  But Bickford is still a nice prospect, though, shooting up to #65 on MLB's list.  He would have represented good return on Santana (assuming the Giants picked up most of the salary).  And Bickford plus an MLB ready catcher in Susac looks like a fantastic haul for Will Smith.

[Vanimal46]

 

Not necessarily.  Susac has been in AAA, and might just be Lucroy insurance for an offseason or 2017 trade.

I'm thinking that's going to be the case. Lucroy's not going anywhere until the offseason. 

[Jham]

 

I will withhold my analysis of the trade until I find out Pat Light's opinions on Billy Joel's 1980s-era output...

Oh ho ho, this is your lucky day.  Thanks to the magic of Twitter, we know he's for it!  Only the good die young!

[Mike Sixel]

It does show what Perkins might have been worth (discounted as RPs are more valuable now).....

[jsimssd72]

 

Well, he's almost 26 and still in AAA. Baseball Prospectus pegs him as a #4 ML starter. Which is valuable, but also what we seem to have plenty of. Why deal a proven #3 for a guy who might become a #3?  

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[gocgo]

Doesn't seem to be much chatter about Suzuki.

[cjj td]

 

Come on.....there is no comparison between a healthy Will Smith and Abad......

Abad just can't "get jiggy" with it?

 

[LaBombo]

 

Wow!  Giants just traded Bickford for Will Smith.

He's not even in the new Independence Day!

[Primetime82]

It's to bad we didn't trade Perkins when his value was sky high!!!

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

Giants get to control Smith til 2019, BoSox get Abad for 2017.

That's probably the least of their differences. Smith had a 12.2 K/9 over the last 3 years.  Only 9.0 this year so far, but it has been climbing since his return.

[markos]

 

I could see that he's a bit overrated.  But Bickford is still a nice prospect, though, shooting up to #65 on MLB's list.  He would have represented good return on Santana (assuming the Giants picked up most of the salary).  And Bickford plus an MLB ready catcher in Susac looks like a fantastic haul for Will Smith.

He seems Gonsalves-esque to me. 

 

I have certainly liked what I've seen from the Brewers under Stearns.

[Willihammer]

Giants get to control Smith til 2019, BoSox get Abad for 2017.  Still makes me like the Cubs-Chapman trade (for the Cubs) the longer the trading goes on.

Do you think a. there was anything to the Theo "chaos theory," and if so, b. did it work?

[whydidnt]

 

Come on.....there is no comparison between a healthy Will Smith and Abad......

Well, I'd agree that Smith is better than Abad, the difference isn't really that great. Baseball Ref Career ERA+ for Smith 103 - for Abad 110. Career bWAR Smith 0.9, Abad  2.8. The difference is not as great as you'd think, and both these numbers favor Abad.  Like I started with I'd rather have Smith, but there really isn't a huge difference in these guy's results. 

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

Oh ho ho, this is your lucky day.  Thanks to the magic of Twitter, we know he's for it!  Only the good die young!

"Only the Good Die Young" was from the 1977 album, "The Stranger."

 

If he starts quoting "River of Dreams", we're in trouble.  I'll grant minor references to "Uptown Girl" and "We Didn't Start the Fire".

[Vanimal46]

 

He seems Gonsalves-esque to me. 

 

I have certainly liked what I've seen from the Brewers under Stearns.

 

That sounds like a ringing endorsement for the search firm that the Twins just hired! Find us another Stearns somewhere. 

[Otto von Ballpark]

Question: what Billy Joel song would work well as a reliever's entrance music?  "We Didn't Start the Fire" with runners on base, obviously -- but what about the start of an inning?

[Jham]

 

He's not even in the new Independence Day!

I thought someone shot him with his own gun outside a New Orleans restaurant or something...  Not a bad return for a deceased defensive end with average pass rush abilities and a penchant for political corruption.

[gmarais66]

Per MLB Trade Rumors, the Marlins are now looking for another starter after trading Rea back to the Padres. Maybe they'll be desperate enough, as the clock winds down, to take Nolasco...

[Lonestar]

 

That sounds like a ringing endorsement for the search firm that the Twins just hired! Find us another Stearns somewhere. 

Search firms don't do the hire.  They only search for candidates.

[redstorm]

MLB.com places Pat Light at #15 on the Twins prospect list. Between Wander Javier and Jake Reed.

[wsnydes]

 

"Only the Good Die Young" was from the 1977 album, "The Stranger."

 

If he starts quoting "River of Dreams", we're in trouble.  I'll grant minor references to "Uptown Girl" and "We Didn't Start the Fire".

I'd imagine that Joe DiMaggio comes up a lot in baseball conversations.