Terry Ryan is in DENIAL!

[lukeduke1980]

So it's all just happenstance...the young guys could be Bryce Harper but check back in a few years?

 

How would the team be doing if the rotation wasn't total garbage and the bullpen wasn't a pathetic collection of the same?

 

You're coaches can't extract adjustments from the veterans like Dozier and Plouffe?

 

Your plan for catcher was a backup traded for an outfielder who finally showed progress in development?

 

Delaying development of the youth with retreads like Grossman, Ramirez and Tommy Millone act IV?

 

The bungled yo-yoing of Polanco, who should be platooning with Dozier at worst?

 

The absolute lack of preparation of Berrios and Chargois when they were brought here?

 

It's all just a little bad luck.

[HitInAPinch]

For some perspective on building a team by counting on prospects.  I think you'll see somethings  similar to what's happening now with the Twins.  At least the first part.

 

http://www.startribune.com/phil-miller-s-sunday-insider-red-sox-show-how-patience-with-prospects-can-be-rewarded/383534181/

 

I threw out the importance of 2015 a long time ago.  The in-game meltdowns this year are undeniable.  The flyball the Kepler missed, weird?  unreal?  IDK.  But things are slooooowly ticking upwards.

 

No highly prized starter will want to sign with the Twins.  Contracts for starters are now solely market driven with quick outs:  see Greinke.  You try to get a MLB'er to fill the void / backup plan, while MiLB'ers are given time to develop, which can obviously turn ugly.  In the case of Buxton, primarily, MiLB time is over.  And is should be over for anyone else who has dominated AAA.  It's sink or swim time.  If you don't like what's happening now, just wait until next year.

[Twinfan & Dad]

The dire state that the Twins Organization is in right now reminds me of someone having to hit rock bottom before they will change. I am hoping that this is rock bottom for the Twins. Terry Ryan you have a problem and until you admit that you are responsible, the organization cannot move forward. Swallow your pride and either step down or "get on with it" and blow this thing up.

[jud6312]

Danny Santana is part of the solution?

 

Does he honestly believe that or does Molitor's contract include a DanSan clause that requires every other person in the organization to say at least one nice thing about him over the course of an interview? 

[mikelink45]

The real indictment is the fact that we have no team to talk about.  We are down to the pitiful level of just being able to talk about the FO and all the coaches.  This is when hope is gone.   It would be nice to talk about TRs shrewd plucking of relievers from the minors, but if you have watched the last week you have seen these vets implode too.  And of course who counts runners who score but are charged to the last pitcher.  

 

The bullpen is over worked.  The starters are overworked.  We need to move the mound in about 10 feet and get rid of the bench and add more pitchers.  How long until the all-star game?  All we need to do is win the next 13 in a row and we will be at 40%.

[notoriousgod71]

Terry should watch the Seinfield episode where George decides to do the exact opposite of his instincts.

[Wizard11]

Although FO's are not constructed this way, I have long thought that TR should only be in charge of the last 5 guys on the roster. He has always been the "Master of the Dumpster Dive" and has often been able to come up with usable freebies like Grossman, Abad, Boshers, Kintzler, etc. What is missing is a forward thinking GM who fills out the entire Rotation, late inning relievers, and the Starting 9. (Just a hint of sarcasm here). TR should be subordinate to a strong GM and then his years of baseball experience could be properly utilized. His tool set and vision are not IMO functional in today's game as a GM.

[David HK]

 

So it's all just happenstance...the young guys could be Bryce Harper but check back in a few years?

 

How would the team be doing if the rotation wasn't total garbage and the bullpen wasn't a pathetic collection of the same?

 

You're coaches can't extract adjustments from the veterans like Dozier and Plouffe?

 

Your plan for catcher was a backup traded for an outfielder who finally showed progress in development?

 

Delaying development of the youth with retreads like Grossman, Ramirez and Tommy Millone act IV?

 

The bungled yo-yoing of Polanco, who should be platooning with Dozier at worst?

 

The absolute lack of preparation of Berrios and Chargois <and Meyer> when they were brought here?

 

<Continuing to go with Molly in the dugout, who mangles all our callups, and manages by Ouija board, or Yahtzee dice, or Magic 8 Ball, or whatever the hell...>

 

It's all just a little bad luck.

Just my 2 Cents.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

Was Terry Ryan ordained to be the GM of this team in perpetuity?

 

 

Yup, by Jim Pohlad himself. As long as he wants the job

[jimmer]

Between offense, defense, starting pitching, and bullpen, our bullpen is our best feature.

 

That's saying a lot.

[DaveW]

 

 

Between offense, defense, starting pitching, and bullpen, our bullpen is our best feature.

That's saying a lot.

That still doesn't excuse it though, overall they have one of the worser bullpens in the league. A lot of that has to do with Jepsen being a disaster of course.

[Highabove]

Ryan is quoted in Sid's column 

 

• Twins General Manager Terry Ryan was asked how he goes about rebuilding a team that could wind up with the worst record in baseball. “We have to make some changes, there’s no doubt about that. Now getting out publicly and saying who’s going to end up staying and going and so forth, I don’t think that’s the right thing to do. But it’s obvious we have to make some changes here, and I’ll have to do that.”

 

It looks like Ryan is planning on staying. Shift the blame to others while he keeps his job.

 

So much for Ryan taking personal responsibility for the Twins mess.

[jimmer]

 

Between offense, defense, starting pitching, and bullpen, our bullpen is our best feature.

That's saying a lot.[/quote
That still doesn't excuse it though, overall they have one of the worser bullpens in the league. A lot of that has to do with Jepsen being a disaster of course.

I was, in no way, trying to defend this bullpen.  It's horrible, inexcusably horrible.  And yet, when looking at our offense, defense and starting pitching...

[Hrbowski]

 

wut?

Most people who are complaining about TR not addressing the bullpen are the ones who were complaining that he signed Fernando Abad and not Antonio Bastardo. His choice was much better.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Most people who are complaining about TR not addressing the bullpen are the ones who were complaining that he signed Fernando Abad and not Antonio Bastardo. His choice was much better.

Well, Abad was minor league deal, so the two aren't mutually exclusive. TR could have signed both.

 

Also, very few people actively endorsed Bastardo. It just so happens he was one of the last names on a market most assumed the Twins would be active in, but weren't.

[Brock Beauchamp]

Most people who are complaining about TR not addressing the bullpen are the ones who were complaining that he signed Fernando Abad and not Antonio Bastardo. His choice was much better.

People wanted Bastardo because he was the last man standing.

 

Nothing was stopping Ryan from signing one of the 15-ish relievers who went off the market before Antonio.

[DocBauer]

I don't know if this was touched on the game tnread, (didn't read any of it today), but I caught a couple minutes of the Ryan interview in the car. Mine you, I'm not letting him off the hook by any means, but he commented about Sano hopefully ready to start playing again soon. And when asked about his position, Ryan staTed they were NOT putting him back in the OF. While felt Sano wasn't meant to be out there long term, his position is 3B, he felt he handled it OK. Whatever. But I thought it was interesting that he at least admitted 3B was Sano's spot, though he might DH and even play a little 1B on assignment. He also stated they needed to Kepler in RF and he needed games and AB out there.

 

While he took no responsibility for mistakes, nor admitted there were mistakes made, he at least publicly stated the obvious. Of course, he probably doesn't have a choice at this point, but I still thoughthink his comments were somewhat interesting.

[S.]

At this point, I'm not sure why anyone cares what Terry Ryan has to say. What he says and what he does rarely, if ever, match up. This is the same guy who said the bullpen was #1 priority this offseason and all he managed to do was sign Abad to a minor league contract. TR needs to be gone yesterday. Can anyone honestly say they trust him dump some veterans and make good trades before the deadline? Or that you trust him to do anything of value in the offseason? Or to handle our prospects in a manner that doesn't jerk them around endlessly in favor of mediocre veterans?

 

At this point, I'm afraid of the (additional) lasting damage he could do to this franchise if he continues to refuse to acknowledge his complete failure at running a team. And if he can't acknowledge how bad this team is and how far we are from competing, then I worry that he is going to do something even more idiotic like trading Berrios or Sano for a 30 year old SP because he thinks thats the piece we need to make our big playoff push in 2017.

[stringer bell]

OK, I've read the article and read the entire thread. I like and respect Terry Ryan, but I believe the game has passed him by and that it is time to retire. To comment on a couple of specifics, I believe the writer named Danny Santana as a part of the future, not Ryan. Secondly, I'm in the boat with Brock, at this point what Ryan is saying and will say isn't going to reveal much about who is really responsible for the failure of this team and how they will attempt to dig out of this mess.

 

Some of the things that worked for the Twins at the turn of this century no longer work as well. Low ceiling pitchers who limit walks and depend on good defense are getting killed, hitters with occasional power are giving the Twins among the lowest OBPs in mlb. Playing guys out of position with (again) a staff that allows so much contact is a recipe for failure. Having so many guys flail and fail is not an endorsement of the team's player development.

 

Further, I think there have been a host of poor 25-man and 40-man roster decisions, which have culminated in far too many guys for a handful of positions, causing more development issues including the current loss of Oswaldo Arcia.

 

Over the years, Terry Ryan has shown that he knows baseball and he knows talent. Putting that talent together to form a winning club. Unfortunately, many things have changed in the last decade and a half and Mr. Ryan hasn't incorporated them into his blueprint.

[DocBauer]

What Stringer said 100%. Can't "like" on my phone, but I definitely agree and "like".

[Craig Arko]

I rather expect Mr.Ryan to retire or take a consultant position in the organization, citing health concerns. The man is only a year removed from cancer treatment, after all. A season like this one has to take a physical and emotional toll.

 

Obviously the interesting question is where the resulting search committee looks. Got no idea about that.

[jimmer]

 

I rather expect Mr.Ryan to retire or take a consultant position in the organization, citing health concerns. The man is only a year removed from cancer treatment, after all. A season like this one has to take a physical and emotional toll.

Obviously the interesting question is where the resulting search committee looks. Got no idea about that.

The resulting search committee is likely Mr. Ryan handpicking his successor. Like last time.

[Platoon]

I rather expect Mr.Ryan to retire or take a consultant position in the organization, citing health concerns. The man is only a year removed from cancer treatment, after all. A season like this one has to take a physical and emotional toll.

Obviously the interesting question is where the resulting search committee looks. Got no idea about that.

There will be an extensive list, let's see? Rob Anthony and er? Ah? Hmm,? Let me get back to u on this!