Pardon My Dinger Verified Member Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 Does that include "dinger"?Dinger is a classic. A classic! and my handle is in fact a very obscure reference. so there.
ashbury Verified Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 It was titled specifically to drive up the web traffic statistics.FTFY.
Linus Verified Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 How could they possibly take Joe Benson off the 40 man.....
Platoon Verified Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Mauer was the right guy, in the right place, at the right time, to get his contract. The "Perfect Storn". Plus, if he had not been re-signed, and at even a much higher rate, Twinsdom would have erupted. As for the present, IF he is the cause of the Twins losing, it's would not be his contract, it would be his performance. And if it he is blocking someone younger, better from playing, it's not his contract, or him that's doing that. It's a lack of intestinal fortitude by management. I like Mauer, I liked him better as a catcher. But love him or hate him, he is the key piece in the restructuring of the entire lineup. Until they figure what, if anything, to do with him, they are just treading water.
formerly33 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Joe Mauer has a no-trade clause and will never play catcher again. Wait ... what?! That's not what I'm hearing: http://stmedia.startribune.com/images/randmid_1291158384_jetercardtwins_1.jpg
Linus Verified Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Let's trade Nolasco for nothing and dump the salary. (Never mind he is on the DL)
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Terry Ryan is never making a big trade to acquire talent in July. Can we add that to the list yet, after 17 years?
gil4 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Much in favor of Mr. Beauchamp's proposal. I'd like to attach a few trendy baseball lingo items to the list as well (i.e., "raking" and/or "...at a clip..."). Does that include "dinger"? I'm not sure what Mr. Beauchamp's proposal was, but if it involved banning or shooting, I'm in favor. And yes, dinger is on the list (right at the top). Someone's going to have to change his name to "Pardon My :shoot: "
boomerb5 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Expert analysis on "Mays" and "Meyers." Joe Mays hasn't pitched for the Twins in a decade, it's time to give it a rest. Still not sure who Meyers is. Y'know...Greg Meyers...left-handed catcher.
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 "Who to blame for this, who to blame for that." Gets older than dirt.
wickedslider Provisional Member Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 No trade clause doesn't mean he can't be traded, just that he has to approve his trade. That being said, he isn't going anywhere. I also think it's unreasonable to expect him to restructure his contract...that's just not how sports workthe player's union would oppose any restructuring of Joe's contract. This isn't pro football.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Mauer does have like an .830 ops or something his last 40 games or so....
clank2000 Provisional Member Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Can Pinto play SS? Also, can I has cheezburger?
sane Provisional Member Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 I don't understand why the Twins don't Trade Danny Santana, Oswaldo Arcia and Rickey Nolasco for Bryce Harper and Stephen Strausberg? [/quote The Nationals are not required to honor any trade agreements signed while being held hostage?
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 People who think deliberately misspelling someone's name is funny. Hie thee back to joke school.
mikecgrimes Verified Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Clearly unless you pay at least 80% of mauers salary no team would trade for him. That being said when the twins are ready to move on (today would be a good day) give him the option to accept a trade if some team would pay 15% of his remaining salary. Otherwise you have to hope he retires or eat his salary. We can't go another year with < Gene Larkin as our starting 1st baseman. In fact we shouldn't go another week with mauer starting more then 3 games.
twinsnorth49 Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Mauer does have like an .830 ops or something his last 40 games or so....cut him.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Mauer does have like an .830 ops or something his last 40 games or so....I call shenanigans. Last 28 days: .6182015: .712Last 365 days: .739
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted August 4, 2015 Author Posted August 4, 2015 I call shenanigans. Last 28 days: .6182015: .712Last 365 days: .739I think Dave is basing that on old stats before Joe went into his current tailspin. From June 5-July 24, Joe posted an .816 OPS. I didn't try to optimize that timeframe beyond "it looks like he started hitting here" and "it looks like he stopped hitting here". There was a stretch of 4-5 weeks where Joe was OPSing around .850. I remember when it happened.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Twenty 1B qualify from the beginning of 2014 to now. Mauer has the 2nd lowest wRC+ of them all...... this year, he's even worse (though, so are some others). It's not just his ranking, it's how far his WAR is from median that is a killer, let alone from good / elite.
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Wasn't this supposed to be a fun thread? So serious. Let me tell you how I got these scars...
spinowner Provisional Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I still say Brock should have changed the title so people would have understood the spirit in which it was intended and continued in that vein. Oh well, I guess it's a mute point now.
SwainZag Community Moderator Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 They aren't going to eat 70+ million dollars to release him. As soon as this gets through everyone's heads the better.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I understood. ...it changed. So it is better to pay him, and play a worse player, than pay him and play a better player?
mikecgrimes Verified Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Real question not that any gm is this foolish but if somehow he got claimed off waivers would no trade clause matter?
mikecgrimes Verified Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 They aren't going to eat 70+ million dollars to release him. As soon as this gets through everyone's heads the better. sunk cost not a legitiment reason to keep him around.
LeatherAntenna Verified Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 Everyone is way to hard on Mauer. He is hot right now. He has 5 RBIs in the last 5 weeks. Sure am glad he bats second or third in the lineup.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 There's no shame in a former batting champ batting in the six hole in the latter part of his career. The Twins hit against David Price yesterday, a tough lefty. That would have been the perfect time to drop Mauer to sixth in the order and leave him there. Instead he didn't have to play at all, and then came back tonight batting second. Mauer had some big hits earlier in the season. Those are not helping us right now. I don't know if this is strictly a Molitor thing, what Jack Goin's opinion of it is, if it's an organizational decision to keep him at the top of the order in the mistaken belief fans will be upset if he's dropped down, or what the deal is.
mikecgrimes Verified Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 There's no shame in a former batting champ batting in the six hole in the latter part of his career. I don't really care so much that he's batting third although clearly thats probably not the right spot. My question is why is he on pace for the most plate appearances in his career. Of course staying healthy is part of it, but the fact he doesn't get at least one off day a week is insane.
Boom Boom Verified Member Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 I don't think it matters how much of his salary the Twins would be willing to eat. Joe's a roughly replacement level first baseman. No team would want to trade for Joe unless it got them out from under a bad contract of Nolascan proportions.
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