Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 I think Chicago and MN are similar in the rankings of which teams they root for...... The timing makes sense, if he wants a job before FA starts.....
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 LaVelle E. Neal III @LaVelleNeal · 4m4 minutes ago Spoke to someone close to Joe Maddon within the last 90 minutes. Twins have not contacted him yet. LaVelle E. Neal III @LaVelleNeal · 3m3 minutes ago But several other teams have touched base and Maddon's camp has reached out to several teams. That's hilarious, considering only 2 jobs open I don't find it hilarious that the Twins haven't inquired unless they've made a decision .... nope not even then. But not sure if this means they haven't contacted his agent.
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 I think the Twins job would be a great opening for nearly all managers and Maddon would be nuts to not want it. BUT he likely has better options/more money elsewhere. He'll get 5-6m or more a year and the Twins aren't going to spend that on a manager. (Heck, they won't spend that on a LFer next year). I still think it'll be Molitor but Lovullo could get it.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 They need 2 weeks of meetings first.... /s /false meme.... Kirby_waved_at_me 1
Kirby_waved_at_me Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 I think the Twins should be given the benefit of the doubt for at least the weekend. And hey, if Maddon's agent is reaching out to teams, but hasn't reached out to the one team that has a vacancy, well, maybe he doesn't want the job? Jerr, Benchwarmerjim, Steven Buhr and 5 others 8
Linus Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Wow - the hyperbole is flying even for TD standards. The part I love best is that TR is getting blamed for stuff already - might be a new TD record. We'd be better taking the money and putting it towards the best FA starting pitcher. Kirby_waved_at_me, Benchwarmerjim, bird and 2 others 5
Steven Buhr Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 If the Twins don't even reach out to contact Maddon's agent, it can only mean one thing... they've already made a decision and an offer and it has been accepted. Just waiting to announce. Squirrel, EephusKnuckler and brvama 3
tobi0040 Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Seems to me paying the guy 3-4M more than whoever we sign is a good investment. Basically what Jared Burton was owed. jokin and nicksaviking 2
tobi0040 Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 If the Twins don't even reach out to contact Maddon's agent, it can only mean one thing... they've already made a decision and an offer and it has been accepted. Just waiting to announce. I think another explanation is out there too, and the article alluded to it. $$$$$$$$$
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 I find it fascinating everyone is spelling his name correctly.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Wow - the hyperbole is flying even for TD standards. The part I love best is that TR is getting blamed for stuff already - might be a new TD record. We'd be better taking the money and putting it towards the best FA starting pitcher. No one has posted anything unrealistic or non-evidentiary in this thread. Ryan has been around long enough for any Twins fans to understand and grasp Shakespeare's phrase- "What's past is prologue..." There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that Ryan would actively and seriously consider such a hire- as much as many of us would see it as a master stroke.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 I find it fascinating everyone is spelling his name correctly. Not everyone did, but I think it tells you his string of baseball excellence has helped his confusing name penetrate the collective bad-speller psyche. LaBombo 1
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Is MLB pissed off that this news broke during the World Series? Bud Selig is en route to throw a baseball at Maddon's head as we speak. That'll learn him. GCTF 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 But it was a written rule, not sure how those are punished in MLB......
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 But it was a written rule, not sure how those are punished in MLB...... They bring in Roger Goodell as a special consultant for those. Mike Sixel 1
bird Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 I think the Twins should be given the benefit of the doubt for at least the weekend. And hey, if Maddon's agent is reaching out to teams, but hasn't reached out to the one team that has a vacancy, well, maybe he doesn't want the job?Good one.
mbents Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Think about what you just said for a moment. "once Maddon is hired by the Dodgers or Cubs" Pretend you're Joe Maddon for a second. Under what situation would you choose the Twins over the Dodgers or Cubs? Let's check the options: - You can choose beautiful LA, which is baseball crazy and has a payroll roughly equivalent to the GDP of Spain - You can choose Chicago, which is even more baseball crazy and has a fantastic farm system, smart ownership, and you'd be a golden god if you brought a championship to Wrigley Field - You can choose Minnesota, which has a great farm system, kinda mostly likes baseball when the Vikings aren't playing, and has a pretty sweet stadium when it's not snowing Makes the choice pretty easy. If the Dodgers or Cubs open their managerial position, I don't see the Twins nabbing Maddon if they back up a Brinks truck and promise him half of Edina. Yeah.......that wasn't really meant to be taken seriously. It was just a joke about what we've heard in the past, when a free agent we had hoped would sign with the Twins ended up signing elsewhere. I agree with all your points and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. I do think Maddon ends up with the Dodgers, even if it means sitting out 2015, but I also hope the Twins reach out to his agent just to see if there's any interest from him at all. Mike Sixel and jokin 2
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Remember 2010 when there was a mysterious entrant in the Cliff Lee sweepstakes? This reminds me of that -- it was fun to dream even if you knew that's all it would ever be. Mike Sixel and glunn 2
Winston Smith Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 He is going to want a lot of money maybe 5m a year. The twins can afford that but will Terry write that kind of check? I kind of doubt it.
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Good Summary: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/10/latest-on-joe-maddon.html
Steven Buhr Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 I think the Twins should be given the benefit of the doubt for at least the weekend. And hey, if Maddon's agent is reaching out to teams, but hasn't reached out to the one team that has a vacancy, well, maybe he doesn't want the job?Excellent point.
LaBombo Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Would love it but I can't see them paying a manager that much especially with them still owing Gardy $2M for next year.I would actively seek to organize a boycott and protests if the Twins make ANY relevant decisions based on a tiny sum of organizational pocket change owed Ron Gardenhire, let alone made the mind-bogglingly stupid mistake of passing on Joe Maddon. I would be more likely to expend time and energy on following whatever team Maddon went to if that happened than a Twins organization with only a faint interest in winning. jokin 1
Brandon Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Can we get a hold of enough season ticket holders to raise a stink to the front office to contact this guy already? jokin 1
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 I think the Twins should be given the benefit of the doubt for at least the weekend. And hey, if Maddon's agent is reaching out to teams, but hasn't reached out to the one team that has a vacancy, well, maybe he doesn't want the job?Which, if true, tells us more than a little about how this pretty universally admired manager views the Twins job, IMO. nicksaviking and jokin 2
Winston Smith Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Reported to want 5 yrs - $25 mill. 5 years of Maddon for what they pay Mauer for one year seems fair. h2oface 1
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 I think the Twins should be given the benefit of the doubt for at least the weekend. And hey, if Maddon's agent is reaching out to teams, but hasn't reached out to the one team that has a vacancy, well, maybe he doesn't want the job? I would be fielding calls not seeking out employers if I was Maddon and his agent. We're not talking about some mid-level corporate job -- Maddon can wait for the offers to come to him. A bit of an arrogant view? Perhaps, but Maddon is a prime commodity. He is the "sought after" not the "seeker". jokin 1
darin617 Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Not gonna happen. For 2 simple reasons. The first is the Twins are too cheap to spend more than $2M for a manager. The second reason is why would he want to waste his time and talent to manage the Twins. Everyone should take a couple of steps back and hold off on the manager hiring and clean house on the upper end.The sad part is he might actually like the challenge to turn this club back into contenders but if course the Pohlad boys need that extra $3M more every year and don't care about winning. If you can pay $23M for a 1B that has no power and hopefully can at least get back to hitting .300 you can pay $5M for a man to turn this club around.Paul Molitor is not the answer.
Bark's Lounge Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 It has to suck to be Rick Renteria right now. Poor fella.
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 It has to suck to be Rick Renteria right now. Poor fella. Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN · 43m43 minutes ago Rival executives believe that if Joe Maddon winds up with the Cubs, the Rays will investigate the issue of tampering. May not help Renteria, though.
LaBombo Verified Member Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) It has to suck to be Rick Renteria right now. Poor fella.The minute Maddon hit the open market life began to suck at least a little for somewhere between a half and a full dozen current managers. Edited October 24, 2014 by LaBombo
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