Basking in Buxton’s Season

Why should Buxton be any different than any other Twin looking to get rich off Pohlad?? Trade him, we need to rebuild our Minor League system. Prospects win championships ya know. Just ask a Pohlad.....

Plus, then you can write about the need for pitching...........and a centerfielder. 

Yup - Buxton put together a wonderful ONE THIRD of a season.

33 minutes ago, TheLeviathan said:

How many people saw that he only started 55 games and thought it was more?  I was going to guess he played half the season, but it's a third.  Ouch.

He stayed on the field after he came back, that was a very promising end.  Hopefully they get a very fair contract done with incentives for Buck and protections in case we spend the next 7 years with 50 games played.

My thoughts exactly. It wouldn't be too difficult to come up with a contract with incentives based on games and production. Buck wants to stay, lets get it done as soon as possible. While we're at it lets get a decent back up for a change so we aren't hurting soooo bad when he's not in the line up.

The Twins screwed Buxton on service time a few years ago.

Ever since then, I've doubted he'd remain in Minnesota. I'm hoping that he remains a Twin next year, or at least til the trade deadline.  Why would he not want to test the market?

Just gonna enjoy him this weekend.

I believe he has said he wants to stay here......?‍♂️

2 hours ago, USAFChief said:

There is nothing the front office can do this offseason more important than getting Buxton under contract.

 

Whatever it takes. Pay the man. It's criminal it has gone this long. 

What if his asking price is $300 million for 10 years?

Buxton has 221 AB's this year. 18 Hr's (12 solos and six 2-run shots) for a total of 24 RBI's from HR's. His other 6 RBI's came in the remaining 203 "non-HR" AB's. You read that right. That level of production outside of the long ball has to be the lowest in MLB.

T-R-A-D-E.

12 hours ago, puckstopper1 said:

Yup - Buxton put together a wonderful ONE THIRD of a season.

 

The best ability is availability.

9 hours ago, Dennesey55347 said:

Buxton has 221 AB's this year. 18 Hr's (12 solos and six 2-run shots) for a total of 24 RBI's from HR's. His other 6 RBI's came in the remaining 203 "non-HR" AB's. You read that right. That level of production outside of the long ball has to be the lowest in MLB.

T-R-A-D-E.

You seem to forget he is hitting at the top of the order, the last 3 hitters in the twins lineup have been bad this year, so his chances have not been as great as you would believe.

I really hope they sign Buxton.  I find it interesting how this and similar articles will mention injuries then as if to brush those off talk off his "great" play when he is playing.  Or extending part time numbers for full time numbers.  The fact is he IS injured a lot.  The last several years he hasn't even come close to playing half of his eligible games.  While he is a great defensive center fielder, he is a career .247 hitter over 7 years.  Let's get him signed and signed for a reasonable amount.  If you grossly overpay him where will the money come to improve the team?  Not the Pohlads with tight budgets.  20-30 mil per year for a part time player is not reasonable.  It's ludicrous!

It is a necessity to keep him. Bear in mind we are talking about the league MVP for the next 2-3 years.

I tire of reading posts that reference Buxton's injuries as if every one was his fault and that project him to continue to spend significant time on the IL for the rest of his career.

Yes the injuries, we all get it. I’ve been following the Twins since the late 60s and I will say that when he is healthy he is the best overall player in the history of the franchise.  You don’t pay him and many fans like me will consider it the last straw. 
Wouldn’t it be ironic if he has good health going forward. 

I am thankful they have him next season. Good move a few years back to protect his service time in a season where he had an OPS+ of 5. For comparison Simmons has an OPS+ of 58 this year. 

He will sign if they pay up.

23 hours ago, Dennesey55347 said:

Buxton has 221 AB's this year. 18 Hr's (12 solos and six 2-run shots) for a total of 24 RBI's from HR's. His other 6 RBI's came in the remaining 203 "non-HR" AB's. You read that right. That level of production outside of the long ball has to be the lowest in MLB.

T-R-A-D-E.

Of those 203 "non-HR" AB's, 82 have come with runners on base (91 PA's); he is 30-82 with 18 RBI in those AB's. With RISP he is 11-46 (50 PA's) with 11 RBI. Not a lot of chances to drive in runs....

All I can really think about is seeing him in a Yankees jersey putting up stupid numbers. That feels gross. It's not my money but I hope they spend it.

Seems like we get the players we want/have been waiting for and so many posters love to post the negatives instead of enjoying the great players.  Granted this is a small sample of fans but most fans love the presence of a great player and don’t care about numbers.  They love seeing the amazing talent and the possibility of Berrios pitching a no-hitter or Buxton speeding around the bases or making a game winning catch. I think the Twins did themselves in with how they treated him with the service time issue.  Also money is probably a huge factor but followed closely by by the possibility of contending most years.  They are good enough to be wanted and signed by these types of teams.  This has to have been the most exciting time of Berrios’ career.  The best players want to have at least a shot of going to the WS or far in the playoffs.   This most likely isn’t going to happen during Buxton’s best years.

26 minutes ago, TheLeviathan said:

Who cares whose fault they are?  All we have to predict the future is trends of the past.  Players with this kind of history rarely become durable.  The time of his life where his body was the most resilient was spent playing halves to thirds of seasons.  That has bearing on a 7 year contract.

If the injuries were due to something Buxton does on a day-to-day basis then there is some basis to predict the future. But they are not. Hence, it's just as legitimate, probably more so, to say that the odds are that he is due for a few injury-free seasons. But in either case past results are no guarantee of future performance.

1 hour ago, TheLeviathan said:

Guys who get injured don't do so by choice, I don't understand why anyone thinks this is a reasonable way to look at things.  Of course Buxton isn't hurling his body purposely into injury with the intent to be injured.

The problem is that we have ample evidence that some players maintain durability and others simply don't.  Josh Donaldson isn't "doing something" or "choosing" to keep hurting his balky leg muscles.  He's just clearly more prone to injuries there.  His body can't handle the sport without more chance of injury relative to his peers.  Likewise, we have a crap ton of evidence this is the case for Buxton.  Could he suddenly be able to play baseball without getting hurt all the time?  Sure.  I hope that's the case.  I'm on board for that gamble and want an extension.  But I'm over this fairy tale that it's some kind of given he's going to be healthy.  If Vegas was doing odds on Buxton's future games played per season, I guarantee you that over/under is WAY short of 150.  It's probably short of 100.  

Yup - and how much should the Twins pay for 100 games per year? I'd love the Twins to resign Buck, but if he wants Machado/Harper like money THAT PREVENTS THE TEAM FROM ADDING OTHER QUALITY PLAYERS, then he should be traded for the best package the Twins can get.