Bob Nightengale: Astros Exploring Reunion With Carlos Correa

[Brock Beauchamp]

7 minutes ago, Woof Bronzer said:

Source?

I've heard Gleeman and others mention it repeatedly, mostly in podcast form. It may be out there in the written word somewhere.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

1 hour ago, Woof Bronzer said:

Half the team follows his example of trotting out grounders...

I wouldn’t worry about it.

It’s not like there are a lot of bang-bang plays at first. 

[Woof Bronzer]

45 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I've heard Gleeman and others mention it repeatedly, mostly in podcast form. It may be out there in the written word somewhere.

Eh, a couple of guys bs-ing on a podcast isn't really a source...but man, if this is what a locked-in captain who is committed to the franchise, leads by example, and will do anything to win looks like...give me someone, anyone else.  

And if this front office is truly telling its players not to try so hard...tear it all down.

[Brock Beauchamp]

20 minutes ago, Woof Bronzer said:

Eh, a couple of guys bs-ing on a podcast isn't really a source...but man, if this is what a locked-in captain who is committed to the franchise, leads by example, and will do anything to win looks like...give me someone, anyone else.  

Gleeman is literally a full-time writer with full Twins access, but okay.

[Killer Rod Tony]

On 7/30/2025 at 9:32 AM, Brock Beauchamp said:

If Correa wants to leave, I don't blame him.

And if new owners don't raise payroll in an attempt to put on a good face, oh boy are we in ****ing trouble.

Let's talk of money. 95% of the public cannot afford a major league baseball game. The prices have gone up like football who only have 20 games a season. Most Americans have to budget and don't have such money yet the players some of them are enormously greedy but some of them would play for more reasonable money. The current fan base is upset that more money isn't spent for players. You don't want to win baseball by buying your team you want to win in baseball by making good trades and good drafts. When I read about the twins are cheap will Tampa is cheap the twins are paying what is it $132 million for their team! That's crazy money one player can make 70 million dollars now and Carlos Correa think it's 37 million this season. Derek Jeter was quoted as saying what do you think about baseball on David Letterman he said crazy money and he was making 15 million. He could easily make double that now and that's where the rub is this has to stop and I've been saying that for 40 years but somehow the stupid public will keep paying bigger and bigger money. It needs to be boycotted entirely nobody bought a ticket nobody pay for the season on TV just stop doing it but when the player contracts come up again they're going to strike because evidently millions of dollars every season isn't enough and it comes out of your pocket. Is it really worth this kind of money? It can easily cost $1,000 for family of four to go to a baseball game. That's ludicrous. They have us by our butt sporting events and we let him have it. Our boycott the stadiums now. I won't go to a game but I am still buying it by the month on TV where they blacked me out of two teams. Think about what we're doing with these conversations about money. How do you think the Dodgers won the World Series with their head with their brain no with their money.

[Killer Rod Tony]

1 minute ago, Killer Rod Tony said:

Let's talk of money. 95% of the public cannot afford a major league baseball game. The prices have gone up like football who only have 20 games a season. Most Americans have to budget and don't have such money yet the players some of them are enormously greedy but some of them would play for more reasonable money. The current fan base is upset that more money isn't spent for players. You don't want to win baseball by buying your team you want to win in baseball by making good trades and good drafts. When I read about the twins are cheap will Tampa is cheap the twins are paying what is it $132 million for their team! That's crazy money one player can make 70 million dollars now and Carlos Correa think it's 37 million this season. Derek Jeter was quoted as saying what do you think about baseball on David Letterman he said crazy money and he was making 15 million. He could easily make double that now and that's where the rub is this has to stop and I've been saying that for 40 years but somehow the stupid public will keep paying bigger and bigger money. It needs to be boycotted entirely nobody bought a ticket nobody pay for the season on TV just stop doing it but when the player contracts come up again they're going to strike because evidently millions of dollars every season isn't enough and it comes out of your pocket. Is it really worth this kind of money? It can easily cost $1,000 for family of four to go to a baseball game. That's ludicrous. They have us by our butt sporting events and we let him have it. Our boycott the stadiums now. I won't go to a game but I am still buying it by the month on TV where they blacked me out of two teams. Think about what we're doing with these conversations about money. How do you think the Dodgers won the World Series with their head with their brain no with their money.

Let's talk of money that began the message I did not identify myself and I don't have a thing on here don't really know how to do that. In 1992 box seat behind home plate was $12.75 in Baltimore.  Lrjohnson195230@yahoo.com

[Mike Sixel]

4 minutes ago, Killer Rod Tony said:

Let's talk of money. 95% of the public cannot afford a major league baseball game. The prices have gone up like football who only have 20 games a season. Most Americans have to budget and don't have such money yet the players some of them are enormously greedy but some of them would play for more reasonable money. The current fan base is upset that more money isn't spent for players. You don't want to win baseball by buying your team you want to win in baseball by making good trades and good drafts. When I read about the twins are cheap will Tampa is cheap the twins are paying what is it $132 million for their team! That's crazy money one player can make 70 million dollars now and Carlos Correa think it's 37 million this season. Derek Jeter was quoted as saying what do you think about baseball on David Letterman he said crazy money and he was making 15 million. He could easily make double that now and that's where the rub is this has to stop and I've been saying that for 40 years but somehow the stupid public will keep paying bigger and bigger money. It needs to be boycotted entirely nobody bought a ticket nobody pay for the season on TV just stop doing it but when the player contracts come up again they're going to strike because evidently millions of dollars every season isn't enough and it comes out of your pocket. Is it really worth this kind of money? It can easily cost $1,000 for family of four to go to a baseball game. That's ludicrous. They have us by our butt sporting events and we let him have it. Our boycott the stadiums now. I won't go to a game but I am still buying it by the month on TV where they blacked me out of two teams. Think about what we're doing with these conversations about money. How do you think the Dodgers won the World Series with their head with their brain no with their money.

 

They aren't lowering ticket prices...... So if you decrease payroll, the money goes to owners. I'm not sure what you realistically expect. 

[Woof Bronzer]

19 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Gleeman is literally a full-time writer with full Twins access, but okay.

Exactly.  Why hasn't he written about it? 

[tony&rodney]

2 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

That's an organizational decision, not a Carlos Correa decision. Half of this team, and pretty much all of its actual good players, have had repeated lower-body injuries. As a result, they're being told not to run out grounders at 100% because it's not worth the risk.

Seems like it would have to be a team directive. When you watch the Twins run, they all are on cruise. Buxton, most of the time, is an exception. He likely has told Rocco where to go if asked to slow down or more likely the FO and Rocco leave Buck alone.

What a contrast to what we saw from Boston. As I noted during the game yesterday, the Red Sox hustle. From Story (guaranteed long term contract) to Duran (still in Arb) to Anthony (rookie), these guys are sprinting as soon as they are finished swinging. Duran runs likes it is Game 7 in the World Series. There are a whole pile of teams that run like this all across MLB. And then there are the Twins. How is this even possible?  I am a little flummoxed when a guy who was DFA' ed., like Clemens, is cruising around the bases. It is a loser's strategy. One or two guys? Maybe. The entire team? WTF.

[Dman]

MLB Trade rumors on supposed deal for Correa:

"July 31: Nightengale reports that the talks between the two clubs are “all but dead,” adding that Houston asked Minnesota to pay “about $50MM” of the $102.5MM remaining in Correa’s contract and also asked for an outfielder to be included in the deal. Nightengale adds that the Twins rejected that offer and “aren’t budging” from that position. Rome reports (alongside The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal) that talks between the sides have continued despite both sides downplaying the likelihood of a trade."

If that was the "true" offer that has to be incredibly embarrassing for Correa.  They see him as so bad that they want the Twins to pay half his salary and include an outfielder in the deal. Even his old team doesn't want him back. Ouch.  I can't believe that could be a real proposal as the Twins would be paying Houston as much for him to play in Houston as the Twins would pay for him to not play for them. That would make this a very unserious proposal IMO.

Correa is going to heat up with the bat.  He might not be worth 30M but he is way, way better than that deal. If that's the best they've got they should just stop already. I could see that Twins doing like maybe 7M per year if the Houston adds a prospect to the deal not the other way around.  That would be the best I could see Twins ever doing. but we'll see.

[Woof Bronzer]

1 minute ago, tony&rodney said:

Seems like it would have to be a team directive. When you watch the Twins run, they all are on cruise. Buxton, most of the time, is an exception. He likely has told Rocco where to go if asked to slow down or more likely the FO and Rocco leave Buck alone.

What a contrast to what we saw from Boston. As I noted during the game yesterday, the Red Sox hustle. From Story (guaranteed long term contract) to Duran (still in Arb) to Anthony (rookie), these guys are sprinting as soon as they are finished swinging. Duran runs likes it is Game 7 in the World Series. There are a whole pile of teams that run like this all across MLB. And then there are the Twins. How is this even possible?  I am a little flummoxed when a guy who was DFA' ed., like Clemens, is cruising around the bases. It is a loser's strategy. One or two guys? Maybe. The entire team? WTF.

I mean if this really is a team directive then this is a massive scandal.  You cannot be taken seriously as a baseball organization if you determine that you can't keep guys healthy enough so instead they have to start giving less effort.  Where does it end?  You can jog to first if you THINK it's going to be an out?  What if the fielder drops the ball - should you start sprinting?  Won't that risk injury?

Can you jog on defense - I mean, if sprinting to first is going to get you hurt won't sprinting after a foul ball get you hurt too?  What about running the bases?  Should players dive for balls and slide into bases?  

All I know is what I can see, and what I can see is a checked out team who gets out-hustled and out-fundamentaled on a daily basis, and the results speak for themselves.  

[In My La Z boy]

21 minutes ago, Killer Rod Tony said:

Let's talk of money that began the message I did not identify myself and I don't have a thing on here don't really know how to do that. In 1992 box seat behind home plate was $12.75 in Baltimore.  Lrjohnson195230@yahoo.com

Interesting example of our deflated currency you have here. Baseball "Inflation" seems to be on par with everything else in our world. Let's take your example 1992 Orioles Box seats vs 2025 Orioles box seats. In 1992 you had to pay 0.39 ounces of Gold for a box seat. Today in 2025 it costs you only 0.28 ounces of Gold. Ticket prices in 1992 were actually MORE EXPENSIVE than they are today if measured in real money. The federal reserve notes we use are fake. It's why we're all working ourselves to death to survive. Inflation is a scam. They are stealing from us. Baseball is no more expensive than everything else compared to 1992 in federal reserve notes. 

[In My La Z boy]

4 minutes ago, Woof Bronzer said:

I mean if this really is a team directive then this is a massive scandal.  You cannot be taken seriously as a baseball organization if you determine that you can't keep guys healthy enough so instead they have to start giving less effort.  Where does it end?  You can jog to first if you THINK it's going to be an out?  What if the fielder drops the ball - should you start sprinting?  Won't that risk injury?

Can you jog on defense - I mean, if sprinting to first is going to get you hurt won't sprinting after a foul ball get you hurt too?  What about running the bases?  Should players dive for balls and slide into bases?  

All I know is what I can see, and what I can see is a checked out team who gets out-hustled and out-fundamentaled on a daily basis, and the results speak for themselves.  

Maybe we should start practicing with wiffle balls and plastic bats 🙃

[Danchat]

16 minutes ago, Dman said:

MLB Trade rumors on supposed deal for Correa:

"July 31: Nightengale reports that the talks between the two clubs are “all but dead,” adding that Houston asked Minnesota to pay “about $50MM” of the $102.5MM remaining in Correa’s contract and also asked for an outfielder to be included in the deal. Nightengale adds that the Twins rejected that offer and “aren’t budging” from that position. Rome reports (alongside The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal) that talks between the sides have continued despite both sides downplaying the likelihood of a trade."

If that was the "true" offer that has to be incredibly embarrassing for Correa.  They see him as so bad that they want the Twins to pay half his salary and include an outfielder in the deal. Even his old team doesn't want him back. Ouch.  I can't believe that could be a real proposal as the Twins would be paying Houston as much for him to play in Houston as the Twins would pay for him to not play for them. That would make this a very unserious proposal IMO.

Correa is going to heat up with the bat.  He might not be worth 30M but he is way, way better than that deal. If that's the best they've got they should just stop already. I could see that Twins doing like maybe 7M per year if the Houston adds a prospect to the deal not the other way around.  That would be the best I could see Twins ever doing. but we'll see.

I wonder who the outfielder they asked for was?

[tony&rodney]

7 minutes ago, Woof Bronzer said:

I mean if this really is a team directive then this is a massive scandal.  You cannot be taken seriously as a baseball organization if you determine that you can't keep guys healthy enough so instead they have to start giving less effort.  Where does it end?  You can jog to first if you THINK it's going to be an out?  What if the fielder drops the ball - should you start sprinting?  Won't that risk injury?

Can you jog on defense - I mean, if sprinting to first is going to get you hurt won't sprinting after a foul ball get you hurt too?  What about running the bases?  Should players dive for balls and slide into bases?  

All I know is what I can see, and what I can see is a checked out team who gets out-hustled and out-fundamentaled on a daily basis, and the results speak for themselves.  

I wouldn't call it a scandal but the Twins do go less than 100% on the bases and in the field. There is no debate about that, I don't believe. It is likely a strategy to prevent injuries.

[tony&rodney]

1 minute ago, Danchat said:

I wonder who the outfielder they asked for was?

Larnach or Wallner most likely. If the Twins are really wanting to offload the contract, send one of the outfielders, pay the remainder of his contract this year minus the minimum (which keeps Houston below the CBT), and pay $7M the next 3 years. Ask Houston to return a lower level pick that the Twins choose.

[Dman]

3 minutes ago, Danchat said:

I wonder who the outfielder they asked for was?

Not sure, but I know they are looking a lefty bat and Larnach has good splits against righties. It could be him, but it could be anyone hard to say.  I just think they are looking for immediate help so Larnach or Wallner most likely, but that is guess work on my part.

[Dman]

2 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

Larnach or Wallner most likely. If the Twins are really wanting to offload the contract, send one of the outfielders, pay the remainder of his contract this year minus the minimum (which keeps Houston below the CBT), and pay $7M the next 3 years. Ask Houston to return a lower level pick that the Twins choose.

Yeah if they will do Larnach in that deal I could see it happening that way.  Houston could send some relief arms back the Twins way from their prospect pool to even things out a bit.  That nets them Correa and the Twins get like 24M or so back per year to spend on other needs.  I could see something like that working.  I can't see the Twins adding anymore money than that though and Houston doesn't seem to value Correa as 25M per year player. So not sure they go for that.

[tony&rodney]

1 minute ago, Dman said:

Yeah if they will do Larnach in that deal I could see it happening that way.  Houston could send some relief arms back the Twins way from their prospect pool to even things out a bit.  That nets them Correa and the Twins get like 24M or so back per year to spend on other needs.  I could see something like that working.  I can't see the Twins adding anymore money than that though and Houston doesn't seem to value Correa as 25M per year player. So not sure they go for that.

About 5% maybe. 

I'm just hoping that a different Twins team shows up in Cleveland tomorrow night. I can handle the losses if the team is hustling on every play. The Twins dropped 2 of 3 to a team playing very poorly (Dodgers), but they actually seemed to work harder in that series than they have all year. I know people explode at the thought but I would rather have Keirsey Jr. making outs but making every play in right field than watching 2 balls a game escape a lumbering incompetent outfielder. 

Things need to change.

[NotAboutWinning]

If this does not happen.... and it sounds like it won't. How in the world does Correa come back to this clubhouse and fanbase and continue to profess his love of the Twins???

[USAFChief]

Just now, NotAboutWinning said:

If this does not happen.... and it sounds like it won't. How in the world does Correa come back to this clubhouse and fanbase and continue to profess his love of the Twins???

90 percent of Twins fans are unaware of any of this. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

51 minutes ago, Woof Bronzer said:

Exactly.  Why hasn't he written about it? 

Maybe he has, but I'm not going to go back and search 100,000 words to find it.

[Woof Bronzer]

14 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

I wouldn't call it a scandal but the Twins do go less than 100% on the bases and in the field. There is no debate about that, I don't believe. It is likely a strategy to prevent injuries.

It also seems like a strategy to lose more games! 

Just fyi, we probably don't agree on a lot of Twins things but I really like your calm, rational style.  I could learn a thing or two from you!

[AlwaysinModeration]

Reports that the trade is happening.

[LakesPibble]

4 hours ago, In My La Z boy said:

Interesting example of our deflated currency you have here. Baseball "Inflation" seems to be on par with everything else in our world. Let's take your example 1992 Orioles Box seats vs 2025 Orioles box seats. In 1992 you had to pay 0.39 ounces of Gold for a box seat. Today in 2025 it costs you only 0.28 ounces of Gold. Ticket prices in 1992 were actually MORE EXPENSIVE than they are today if measured in real money. The federal reserve notes we use are fake. It's why we're all working ourselves to death to survive. Inflation is a scam. They are stealing from us. Baseball is no more expensive than everything else compared to 1992 in federal reserve notes. 

[Obsvr]

He gone.

[big dog]

I really don't think the Twins would have beaten the Blue Jays in the playoffs without him. If I thought they'd be in the playoffs any time in the near future, I'd be really ticked off.

But I'm not.

[Jeff K]

On 7/30/2025 at 10:12 AM, Cory Engelhardt said:

IF they are better in 2026, isn't that the goal?

Not saying they truly become the Rays. But if getting off of Correa does open a spot for Culpepper (as an example) and allows to sign someone else (even if it isn't a total payroll as high) that still is a tier or 2 ahead of how Tampa has operated right?

Anyway, I'm 3 steps ahead here. This is probably just a rumor. Fun thought experiment.

And now it's a fact.  Hopefully, the Twins don't owe too much of the contract.  The Twins can't rebuild with Correa's contract hanging around their collective necks.  Quite the yard sale going on.