stringer bell Verified Member Posted March 31, 2025 Posted March 31, 2025 The Twins DFA's Randy Dobnak after he saved the bullpen in their latest loss in St. Louis. Given the rules in place, the move makes sense, despite Dobnak's contribution to the Twins. Dobnak's replacement is another guy who hasn't had much major league success but who is capable of throwing several innings if the call to the bullpen comes early. Welcome to the Twins Darren McCaughan. I hope your stay is short and uneventful unless there is more quality in your arm than you've demonstrated over the years. glunn 1
DJL44 Verified Member Posted March 31, 2025 Posted March 31, 2025 It looks like the last spot in the bullpen is designated for pitchers nobody wants until we see Tonkin or Stewart return. We may see Ynoa next if McCaughan pitches in this series.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted March 31, 2025 Posted March 31, 2025 That works for me. It's not like the non-40 man options in AAA and the options on the waiver wire tend to be any different. Punto4President 1
shortround81 Verified Member Posted March 31, 2025 Posted March 31, 2025 Joey Gallo's available to pitch. Bet we can get him pretty cheap 🤣 Doctor Wu and Parfigliano 2
Linus Verified Member Posted March 31, 2025 Posted March 31, 2025 This business of shuttling guys up for one outing and then sending them down the road should be stopped. Perhaps there needs to be a required minimum stay barring injury. Doctor Wu 1
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted March 31, 2025 Posted March 31, 2025 1 hour ago, Linus said: This business of shuttling guys up for one outing and then sending them down the road should be stopped. Perhaps there needs to be a required minimum stay barring injury. They get two weeks pay.
East Coast Twin Verified Member Posted March 31, 2025 Posted March 31, 2025 4 hours ago, nicksaviking said: That works for me. It's not like the non-40 man options in AAA and the options on the waiver wire tend to be any different. Is Dobnak required to stay in the minors for 15 days before he can be recalled, like an optioned pitcher is? Doctor Wu 1
jorgenswest Verified Member Posted March 31, 2025 Posted March 31, 2025 6 hours ago, DJL44 said: It looks like the last spot in the bullpen is designated for pitchers nobody wants until we see Tonkin or Stewart return. We may see Ynoa next if McCaughan pitches in this series. Don’t many teams use that last spot as their long reliever? Sometimes they have a player in that role on options. Sometimes it is a player they are willing to DFA after a long outing. Is Ynoa a pitcher that they should be willing to DFA when they need help in the pen?
Autist75 Verified Member Posted March 31, 2025 Posted March 31, 2025 It's just a total joke to get rid of Randy Dobnak after he was, literally, one of the ONLY bright spots for the team this last weekend. This team's stupidity knows no bounds... DJL44 and djm24 1 1
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted March 31, 2025 Posted March 31, 2025 16 minutes ago, Autist75 said: It's just a total joke to get rid of Randy Dobnak after he was, literally, one of the ONLY bright spots for the team this last weekend. This team's stupidity knows no bounds... This is exactly why he was tendered the $10m contract. No one will claim him because they don’t want to pay him, and Dobnak wont reject the outright assignment, because he wont get better money elsewhere. There’s nothing here to be upset about, from Dobnak’s perspective he gets paid life changing money whether it’s for the Twins or the Saints Vanimal46, Parfigliano, Autist75 and 4 others 7
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted March 31, 2025 Posted March 31, 2025 24 minutes ago, Autist75 said: It's just a total joke to get rid of Randy Dobnak after he was, literally, one of the ONLY bright spots for the team this last weekend. This team's stupidity knows no bounds... Pretty sure you missed the point of the post. The Twins would have been stupid if they would let him waste a roster spot they couldn't use for 3-4 days. What you mean is the Twins callousness knows no bounds. Which is also wrong. Dobnak has been paid a MLB salary for several years now; being removed from the 26-man is hardly the indignity being presented here. So what? Players are always removed from the 26-man all the time. Keeping him on to cater to his ego (I doubt it bothers him, it probably just bothers the Dobnak fans actually) would be a slap in the face to the other 25 players who presumably prefer to win games over playing favorites. DJL44, DocBauer, chpettit19 and 3 others 6
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 Twins: "Hey Randy, you pitched well, but now you're out of commission for the better part of a week, and we both know that's an issue for a relief pitcher. Will you be offended if we remove you from the 26-man so we can add someone to hopefully get us a win finally?" Dobnak: "No, that doesn't offend me, I want to win too. What offends me is that you think my ego is so fragile that you thought this would be an issue." DJL44, DocBauer, glunn and 2 others 4 1
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 6 hours ago, Linus said: This business of shuttling guys up for one outing and then sending them down the road should be stopped. Perhaps there needs to be a required minimum stay barring injury. Why? Nothing in Randy Dobnak’s life changes with this. Him or anyone else on the AAAA shuttle only adds 20 minutes of commute time to their day. Punto4President and nicksaviking 2
Linus Verified Member Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said: Why? Nothing in Randy Dobnak’s life changes with this. Him or anyone else on the AAAA shuttle only adds 20 minutes of commute time to their day. I’m talking league wide not Dobnak
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 4 minutes ago, Linus said: I’m talking league wide not Dobnak And how many players league wide are in the same situation as Dobnak?
Schmoeman5 Verified Member Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 Was he in the original night stalker? Doctor Wu 1
Doctor Wu Verified Member Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 18 hours ago, Linus said: This business of shuttling guys up for one outing and then sending them down the road should be stopped. Perhaps there needs to be a required minimum stay barring injury. I agree, There needs to be some sort of rule to prevent these types of silly transactions. They now have new rules regarding the use of relief pitchers, so why not some sort of sensible (or one that is at least fair to the players) way to manage rosters?
Parfigliano Verified Member Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 13 hours ago, Richie the Rally Goat said: This is exactly why he was tendered the $10m contract. No one will claim him because they don’t want to pay him, and Dobnak wont reject the outright assignment, because he wont get better money elsewhere. There’s nothing here to be upset about, from Dobnak’s perspective he gets paid life changing money whether it’s for the Twins or the Saints It's the Dobnak family winning lottery ticket. Richie the Rally Goat 1
Parfigliano Verified Member Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 6 hours ago, Schmoeman5 said: Was he in the original night stalker? That was Richard Ramirez.
Linus Verified Member Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 11 hours ago, Vanimal46 said: And how many players league wide are in the same situation as Dobnak? I am specifically referring to pitchers who are making league minimum or close to it. I am not worried about Dobnak - he’s got his money no matter where he pitches. The bigger issue for me is allows teams to have a 15 or more pitcher bullpen which directly evades the 13 pitcher limit. Bigger bullpens mean shorter starts, more three true outcomes etc etc jorgenswest 1
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 27 minutes ago, Linus said: I am specifically referring to pitchers who are making league minimum or close to it. I am not worried about Dobnak - he’s got his money no matter where he pitches. The bigger issue for me is allows teams to have a 15 or more pitcher bullpen which directly evades the 13 pitcher limit. Bigger bullpens mean shorter starts, more three true outcomes etc etc They have an options limit of 5 times per season, then the pitcher has to go through waivers.
Linus Verified Member Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 Just now, Vanimal46 said: They have an options limit of 5 times per season, then the pitcher has to go through waivers. I understand the rules, they are minimal in my view. Apparently we disagree which is fine - enjoy the game tonight.
Schmoeman5 Verified Member Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 5 hours ago, Parfigliano said: That was Richard Ramirez. The TV show???
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 6 hours ago, Doctor Wu said: I agree, There needs to be some sort of rule to prevent these types of silly transactions. They now have new rules regarding the use of relief pitchers, so why not some sort of sensible (or one that is at least fair to the players) way to manage rosters? I don't get why it's not fair to the players though. One guy goes down, but correspondingly, another guy comes up. Why aren't we happy for that guy instead? This only happens because of the goofy mascot kind of situation Dobnak is in. Also happened with the 'He's back after all these years!" human interet story of Michael Tonkin too. I bet I won't find a thread like this last year for Daniel Durate, Caleb Boushely or Diego Castillo though. USAFChief, jud6312, chpettit19 and 1 other 4
Parfigliano Verified Member Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 1 hour ago, Schmoeman5 said: The TV show??? LA and San Fran serial killer in '84-85.
DocBauer Old-Timey Member Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 Darren McGavin played Kolchak, the night stalker in the 70's TV show. Parfigliano 1
Schmoeman5 Verified Member Posted April 1, 2025 Posted April 1, 2025 21 minutes ago, DocBauer said: Darren McGavin played Kolchak, the night stalker in the 70's TV show. Thanks Doc! It went over the whippersnappers. 😄 DocBauer 1
laloesch Verified Member Posted April 3, 2025 Posted April 3, 2025 On 3/31/2025 at 7:33 PM, Autist75 said: It's just a total joke to get rid of Randy Dobnak after he was, literally, one of the ONLY bright spots for the team this last weekend. This team's stupidity knows no bounds... I don't think so. He's getting paid 10 million dollars to shuttle back and forth to AAA to open up a roster spot when he's not needed. I'd take that deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday if I was in his shoes. DocBauer 1
stringer bell Verified Member Posted April 3, 2025 Author Posted April 3, 2025 Every pitcher in McCaughan's position is happy to get the major league service time and eventually he'll get a chance to audition for 30 big league teams for a more permanent role. Dobnak's position is slightly different because of his contract. He will accept DFA after DFA and remain in the Twins organization unless another club wants to take on his contract. DocBauer 1
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