Byron Buxton

[jorgenswest]

15 minutes ago, 4twinsJA said:

The second best CF in Twins system is Kiersay. Kiersay off to good start at the plate also at AAA this season.He is unproven at MLB level. If 40 man roster situation was not a factor, I would think he would be a good choice. But with 40 man roster, adding Kiersay would mean letting someone else go. Don't think FO is willing to do that this early in season.

They just sent Boushley back to AAA and will announce a move tomorrow. They could take Boushley off the 40 and add Keirsey. That move might look like a reliever returning to the 26, Buxton on IL and Keirsey added to roster and 40.

I am not sure they would want to put him on the 40 and limit their flexibility if it is short term. It would be fun seeing what Keirsey can do. He has earned an opportunity.

[ashbury]

5 hours ago, jorgenswest said:

They just sent Boushley back to AAA and will announce a move tomorrow. They could take Boushley off the 40 and add Keirsey.

Gonna make for a weird conversation in the manager's office.

"Boosh, step in here, and shut the door behind you.  I need to talk to you.  Something just came up."
"Paddack tweaked something, and you want me to start?  I know I was just ..."
"That wasn't...."
"... just called up, but I'm ready.  I was born ready, Skip.  I promise I won't let you down."
"Um, no.  Buck is hurt.  So, naturally, we're sending you back to St Paul."

[Linus]

I don’t think we can make judgments about Martin based on his first 20 games. Give him a look and see if he gets comfortable in CF and at the plate. I mean if you aren’t going to give him a shot now when will you?

[RpR]

7 minutes ago, Linus said:

I don’t think we can make judgments about Martin based on his first 20 games. Give him a look and see if he gets comfortable in CF and at the plate. I mean if you aren’t going to give him a shot now when will you?

A team like the Twins that has shown it can absolutely horrible, such AAA mode trial, unless forced by injury should not be done.

At that if you are going to do a --  let's see what if -- then bringing Keirsey Jr. up makes more sense.

[akmanak]

10 hours ago, GeorgeLooney said:

I never understood why the front office decided to sign Margot instead of just bringing Taylor back. Taylor is a better fielder with more pop in his bat plus he was cheaper. 

I never understood why they would extend a injury prone center fielder who seems to get hurt simply by running. 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Short term, Buxton does not go to IL: Castro

Short term, Buxton does go to IL: call up Martin again and let him play. Bummer about the things you are all saying about Martin’s arm and instincts. Paul Molitor said he thought Martin might develop into a semi-full-time CF or 2B option; dont remember the exact quote, though. 

Long term: you go with Buxton and keep signing guys like Taylor and Margot if internal options don’t develop. 

Long term only means two or three more seasons to me. If worse comes to worst and Buxton truly cannot stay healthy, and his base salary is so low, would it be cost effective to just put him on the 60-day IL for long periods or ask him to waive his trade clause? 

Edited May 3, 2024 by Hosken Bombo Disco

[Parfigliano]

6 hours ago, 4twinsJA said:

The second best CF in Twins system is Kiersay. Kiersay off to good start at the plate also at AAA this season.He is unproven at MLB level. If 40 man roster situation was not a factor, I would think he would be a good choice. But with 40 man roster, adding Kiersay would mean letting someone else go. Don't think FO is willing to do that this early in season.

They could easily let Margot go and should let him go.  He cant hit.  He cant field.  He provides nothing.  Naturally they will stubbornly hold on to him because he's a veteran.

[Mike Sixel]

People deciding on Martin after this sample size would have given up on hundreds of players that looked bad in their first taste. I'm not saying he's going to be great, but I'm not deciding after this sample. 

Martin to the majors, ERod to AAA if Buxton will be out longer term. If short term, I probably don't promote ERod yet. 

[PatG]

My Question:  Does B Buxton's batting stance have anything to do with the injury to his right knee?  

He is so loaded up on that knee when he is in his batting stance and then he springs forward to hit the ball.

Very similar to R Lewis' "old" batting stance and similar injuries

[MABB1959]

15 hours ago, Linus said:

I don’t think we can make judgments about Martin based on his first 20 games. Give him a look and see if he gets comfortable in CF and at the plate. I mean if you aren’t going to give him a shot now when will you?

He needs to be brought up for sure.  I am sure ping ponging back and forth is not good for his confidence.  Time to let it ride on Martin!

[MABB1959]

11 hours ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

Long term only means two or three more seasons to me. If worse comes to worst and Buxton truly cannot stay healthy, and his base salary is so low, would it be cost effective to just put him on the 60-day IL for long periods or ask him to waive his trade clause? 

Would anyone take him and give the Twins a good player?

[bean5302]

11 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

People deciding on Martin after this sample size would have given up on hundreds of players that looked bad in their first taste. I'm not saying he's going to be great, but I'm not deciding after this sample. 

Martin to the majors, ERod to AAA if Buxton will be out longer term. If short term, I probably don't promote ERod yet. 

It's not like the track record on Martin is 22 games at the MLB level. There are his last 3 years in AA/AAA which are say the same thing, and that's why Martin's actual production in his 22 MLB games matches so well with projection tools. Add in the fact Martin is at borderline non-prospect age at 25, and Martin breaking the mold and turning into a legitimate starting caliber player is far fetched.

Martin is fine as a backup/utility outfielder as far as I'm concerned, but I agree with the popular viewpoint here that Castro is a better option as a starter since he has the tools to succeed in CF. That said, I don't see why Martin wouldn't be called up to see some playing time between the OF positions if Buxton goes to the IL.

[Mike Sixel]

23 minutes ago, bean5302 said:

It's not like the track record on Martin is 22 games at the MLB level. There are his last 3 years in AA/AAA which are say the same thing, and that's why Martin's actual production in his 22 MLB games matches so well with projection tools. Add in the fact Martin is at borderline non-prospect age at 25, and Martin breaking the mold and turning into a legitimate starting caliber player is far fetched.

Martin is fine as a backup/utility outfielder as far as I'm concerned, but I agree with the popular viewpoint here that Castro is a better option as a starter since he has the tools to succeed in CF. That said, I don't see why Martin wouldn't be called up to see some playing time between the OF positions if Buxton goes to the IL.

I mostly agree, I'm just not so certain as many are that we KNOW. Guys do sometimes get better, it worse....

[Parfigliano]

1 hour ago, PatG said:

My Question:  Does B Buxton's batting stance have anything to do with the injury to his right knee?  

He is so loaded up on that knee when he is in his batting stance and then he springs forward to hit the ball.

Very similar to R Lewis' "old" batting stance and similar injuries

Good question

[bean5302]

2 hours ago, PatG said:

My Question:  Does B Buxton's batting stance have anything to do with the injury to his right knee?  

He is so loaded up on that knee when he is in his batting stance and then he springs forward to hit the ball.

Very similar to R Lewis' "old" batting stance and similar injuries

 

1 hour ago, Parfigliano said:

Good question

Loading up the back leg/knee is the default technique for power hitters, but it's more evident these days because of the pitch velocity. Hitters have less time to rock back on their rear leg than in years past so leg kicks aren't as commonplace. The leg kicks and toe taps weren't ever about the front leg, they were about loading the back leg. A lot of power hitters now just pre-load their back leg so they can eliminate the extra timing/motion.

Buxton's batting stance in 2024 is identical to 2021 from what I can tell.

[SoDakTwinsFan]

22 hours ago, akmanak said:

I never understood why they would extend a injury prone center fielder who seems to get hurt simply by running. 

This isn't talked about enough.  

[stringer bell]

I guess I'm puzzled by the Buxton injury. He has no structural damage according to the MRI, only inflammation. I'd think there would be some warning sign, but AFAIK there were no warning signs. 

[D.C Twins]

28 minutes ago, stringer bell said:

I guess I'm puzzled by the Buxton injury. He has no structural damage according to the MRI, only inflammation. I'd think there would be some warning sign, but AFAIK there were no warning signs. 

maybe broke up some scar tissue. (this could cause evidence of inflammation with no structural damage on MRI). This can also be very painful when it happens but subside fairly quickly.

Fingers crossed... oh wait.... the Buxton fingers and toes have already been permanently crossed since circa 2015