GAME THREAD: Twins @ Red Sox, 4/18/22, 10:10 AM CT

[stringer bell]

Well, they got the out without the run scoring, but they allowed the runners to advance to second and third. 

[Gingernsnap25]

Why was Correa not happy when Sanchez threw back to third?

[stringer bell]

Joe Smith--fireman.

[Mill1634]

Twins got the out, but didn't exactly execute the rundown perfectly. After the runner from 2nd went to third, they should've ran Devers back to the bag and tagged both of em. 

[Mill1634]

Never a doubt.

[big dog]

Just now, PopRiveter said:

"a swinging strike three on a pitch 6" outside"

?!?!?!?!

Perhaps you're not aware- Willians Astudillo has struck out only 25 times in his entire mlb career. He's got a career 3.1% strikeout rate. That is a skill you absolutely want in a pinch hitter. He reliably delivered a tough at bat. He struggled when relied upon as a daily starter.

I brought his name up in reference to the idea of Nick Gordon coming off the bench to hit. By comparison, Gordon has a 26.1% career strikeout rate and an OPS about 90 points below Astudillo. It's fair to argue for Gordon's glove and future potential, but to claim Willie was likely to strikeout is pretty silly.

It was more about the ground ball double play, but he did have some pretty wild swings on occasion. What was his walk rate again? Why would anyone ever throw him a strike?

[Mill1634]

1 minute ago, Gingernsnap25 said:

Why was Correa not happy when Sanchez threw back to third?

Because he could've ran Devers back to the bag without risking an error on the throw. Xander already ran to third.

[LVTwinsfan]

The last throw in the rundown was completely unnecessary, just walk back to third with the ball and if you don’t know who to tag, tag both

[chaderic20]

1 minute ago, Gingernsnap25 said:

Why was Correa not happy when Sanchez threw back to third?

Cuz once the runner from second moved to third you should just run the guy from third back to third. They then have two runners at third, you tag the "lead" runner and he's out. Instead Sanchez risked throwing the ball way or letting the runner get around the throw and score.

[Vanimal46]

2 minutes ago, Gingernsnap25 said:

Why was Correa not happy when Sanchez threw back to third?

All he had to do was walk the runner back to 3rd and tag him since the other players advanced to 2nd and 3rd base. 

[PDX Twin]

Just now, chaderic20 said:

Cuz once the runner from second moved to third you should just run the guy from third back to third. They then have two runners at third, you tag the "lead" runner and he's out. Instead Sanchez risked throwing the ball way or letting the runner get around the throw and score.

Of accidentally trip the runner and give him home on interference/obstruction.

[LVTwinsfan]

4 minutes ago, Mill1634 said:

Twins got the out, but didn't exactly execute the rundown perfectly. After the runner from 2nd went to third, they should've ran Devers back to the bag and tagged both of em. 

Bad News Bears stuff

[big dog]

Out of the inning without a run. Who had that in the pool? Oh yeah, none of us

[stringer bell]

3 minutes ago, Gingernsnap25 said:

Why was Correa not happy when Sanchez threw back to third?

Mill mentioned this, but the Red Sox runner was already on third. Sanchez should have run Devers back to the base and tagged both runners. It worked out okay, but it was a needless throw and then Devers was advancing to the plate.

[Gingernsnap25]

Gotcha. Makes sense now. On a work call watching so only passively watching. Thanks!

[stringer bell]

Four runs doesn't mean the bats are back. 

[LVTwinsfan]

Just now, stringer bell said:

Four runs doesn't mean the bats are back. 

Neither would 10, but they’ll get there

[Cap'n Piranha]

2 minutes ago, Gingernsnap25 said:

Why was Correa not happy when Sanchez threw back to third?

Sanchez made a throw, which carries the risk of an error, allowing potentially two runs to score, as opposed to just forcing two guys to be at third, one of whom be definition will be out.

That said, if the runner at third leaves for second, and the runner trying to go home gets back to third, you find yourself in another run-down situation, except now you have to monitor the runner at third as a risk to score if you're not paying attention.

Ultimately, I think Sanchez made the right call, as it's more valuable to keep the runner in the run-down between third and home, as opposed to second and third.

[PopRiveter]

4 minutes ago, big dog said:

It was more about the ground ball double play, but he did have some pretty wild swings on occasion. What was his walk rate again? Why would anyone ever throw him a strike?

You're onto something there. He is downright allergic to anything other than contact.

I know it is not the way of the modern game, but I personally prefer watching hitters who put the ball in play. As such, I'm thankful for Arraez, and I like the Carlos Correa at-bat I just witnessed.

[stringer bell]

So, Duran for the seventh and eighth and then ?????

[Richie the Rally Goat]

20 minutes ago, LVTwinsfan said:

Whatever, what’s he gonna do, make me rich? I could only hope

I don’t like pain, it hurts!

[shortround81]

14 minutes ago, Cap'n Piranha said:

Not for posters here--they're equally angry either way.

 

[Mill1634]

Encouraging outing from Bundy, obviously.

13 swings and misses. 32% whiff rate (league average is around 23). 5 on the fastball is really encouraging, and 6 whiffs on the slider on 8 swings. Things didn't go well the third time through, and I don't think he gets the opportunity to try that too often, but the first 10 innings have been better than anyone could've hoped for. 

[LVTwinsfan]

Just now, Sconnie said:

I don’t like pain, it hurts!

From what? What are you talking about?

[PopRiveter]

1 minute ago, stringer bell said:

So, Duran for the seventh and eighth and then ?????

Geez. You're good at this game. I would've put $1 on Pagan coming in for the 7th

[Mill1634]

How does one get the count wrong in a PROFESSIONAL game?

[stringer bell]

13 minutes ago, big dog said:

It was more about the ground ball double play, but he did have some pretty wild swings on occasion. What was his walk rate again? Why would anyone ever throw him a strike?

Yes, the GDPs were painful, but to me it was the one-pitch popups with runners in scoring position. Willians is allergic to being patient, which negates the superior contact rate.  

[Aggies7]

This would be a horrific loss. 

[stringer bell]

Just now, Mill1634 said:

How does one get the count wrong in a PROFESSIONAL game?

I think it was the checked swing strike on appeal. 

[Vanimal46]

Settle down big fella. A timely splinker for a double play would be nice here.